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Capitalist Imperial
21st July 2004, 23:08
http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,126401,00.html
Their lack of appreciation is atrocious. Without the US, their economy would be nil and the soviets would've invaded 40 years ago. They are a parasite on American success, a afterhtought in the new world, kind of like what America would''ve been if we had lost the revolution. And they have the audacity to talk this mess?
Please, without the US, Canana would just plain suck. Don'tr even deny it, canucks.
Cana exists independently by our choice, not theirs. If they don't appreciate that they are succesful as a proxy state, then we should just make them a real state, or multiple states,
FatFreeMilk
21st July 2004, 23:24
Aww why do you hate our neighbors to the north so much? Did those angry teens really piss you off that badly? C'mon now. Foxnews really inspires some dumbass threads man.
Then-Prime Minister Jean Chretien’s spokesman was caught on mike calling President Bush a moron. Good.
a member of Parliament from the ruling Liberal Party was quoted as saying: “Damn Americans. I hate those bastards.”
Hilarious!
The Sloth
21st July 2004, 23:32
It's good to see that more and more nations are seeing the truth.
And I don't understand something, CI, perhaps you can explain it to me...
Are allies supposed to refuse to criticize each other? Just like if you're homeless, and your friend takes you in, but he, for example, drinks and parties every night while sniffing cocaine, you refuse to criticize him because you want to "show your appreciation" by standing by his decisions? But that may not be a good analogy because America doesn't "sniff cocaine" a.k.a. hurt itself....rather, it survives at the expense of others, and the profits, of course, do not get distributed to the people themselves but to a select few. So maybe a better analogy would be your friend taking your homeless self in, while some of his income flow is through hustling innocents on the street which allows him to afford you. Then, to show your "appreciation", you're expected to "accept" it.
Does the United States "give aid" in hopes of "winning friends" that will stand by our side, no matter what our foreign policy is?
So, in effect, are we "buying" international support for our foreign policies since there is no moral basis for such support?
If there was a rational and moral basis for our policies, wouldn't we not need to "buy" it from others?
And, if there was rational and moral basis for our actions, wouldn't you not be here complaining about Canada's "betrayal" since there would be no need for international outcry against America?
By the way, I'm wondering whether or not you still want to continue the debate in the other thread because I spent a good deal of time on the last post I put up. Get back to me when you can.
Guest1
21st July 2004, 23:33
Yeah, they tried to fire the second one and there was a public out cry like you couldn't believe. She was near the mike and some asshole had it on. She was just mumbling under her breath to someone next to her.
Anyways, they kicked your ass before and it would be a huge mistake for an empire to absorb a population that hates it so much.
Oh, and I thought you might like to know our standard camouflage makes us infrared-invisible. We kick your ass in every war-game we do with you, cause your damn nightscopes can't see us :P
Capitalist Imperial
22nd July 2004, 00:10
Originally posted by Che y
[email protected] 21 2004, 11:33 PM
Yeah, they tried to fire the second one and there was a public out cry like you couldn't believe. She was near the mike and some asshole had it on. She was just mumbling under her breath to someone next to her.
Anyways, they kicked your ass before and it would be a huge mistake for an empire to absorb a population that hates it so much.
Oh, and I thought you might like to know our standard camouflage makes us infrared-invisible. We kick your ass in every war-game we do with you, cause your damn nightscopes can't see us :P
:lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:
Man, I just had to read it one more time.
In this situation, I actually recommend more Che, if it means less Marijuana.
Guest1
22nd July 2004, 00:20
Please don't spam :)
Now let's see if I can get you a link about that camouflage.
Here we go: CADPAT (http://www.hyperstealth.com/CADPAT-MARPAT.htm)
The US has an equivalent called MARPAT, but they don't equip most of their soldiers in it. My friends just joined the Canadian reserves and they immediately got a pair.
Vinny Rafarino
22nd July 2004, 01:30
I'm really not one for taking sides in Yanquis Vs. Canucks debates however I must say that if the worthless nation of the USA decided to have a go at the worthless nation of Canada, the Canucks would not stand a chance.
And neither would any other independent nation. That's what makes US imperialism so dangerous. It is also what forces the left to have only ONE viewpoint on the matter: NO to US imperialism; no matter what you think is "best" for the occupied country.
HEAR THAT JAMES?
They do leach alot off of the U.S pharmacetucal industry's investment in research and development and they also save alot due to the fact that they don't really need a military force since the U.S is their neighbor. Indeed, we should "liberate" Canada.
Sasha
22nd July 2004, 02:55
Originally posted by FatFreeMilk
Aww why do you hate our neighbors to the north so much? Did those angry teens really piss you off that badly? C'mon now. Foxnews really inspires some dumbass threads man.
Then-Prime Minister Jean Chretien’s spokesman was caught on mike calling President Bush a moron.
Good.
a member of Parliament from the ruling Liberal Party was quoted as saying: “Damn Americans. I hate those bastards.”
Hilarious!
If you're going to accuse him of getting pissed over angry teens, at least don't acknowledge two examples of high government officials spewing the same anti-American trash. It doesn't look well on your part.
Fidel Castro
22nd July 2004, 03:04
Sure, why not invade Canada? I'm sure the population will welcome US imperialism with open arms!!!
Cappie-Imperial, you really are the incarnation of what I detest about the USA.
Don't Change Your Name
22nd July 2004, 04:19
Its time to annex.
It's time for you to get banned.
refuse_resist
22nd July 2004, 04:34
More right-wing capitalist propaganda :rolleyes:
:hammer:
Guerrilla22
22nd July 2004, 05:07
Yeah, let's invade Canada with all the troops we have avaible, oh yeah... Anyway CI, if you're so gung ho, pro-America, why isn't your ass over in Iraq "fighting for freedom" instead of sitting on your ass, posting ridiculous stuff.
Nickademus
22nd July 2004, 06:07
well its about time for me to comment on this! first of all Canada is not living off of US pharmaceutical research etc. any more than any other country. IN FACT Canada very frequently disagrees with america and often drugs that are available in the USA are NOT available in Canada... yeah that's living off the states.
and who does the us get a lot of their raw materials from? CANADA. we can stop trading with the US and the US would have some huge manufacturing problems because they wouldn't have anything to make shit out of.
and we don't need a huge military like the USA cause Canada is a hell of a lot more liked than the us... pure and simple. you travel in europe and you are treated a million times better by people if you're canadian than if you are american... weird huh?
essentially it is a MUTUAL relationship between the US and Canada, not one of dominance and submission. bloody ignorance.
and um Canada exists independently because we chose to do so... how did we make that choice... oh yeah CANADIANS BURNED DOWN THE WHITE HOUSE!!!!!! Forgot about that didn't you. Canada has a thriving economy that is often doing better than the american economy in recessions and such. we are different and we are not just an american state... believe what you will but canada has a much better position in the international world because we don't push our weight around.... we are mediators and negotiators... we are respected.... the us (and by this i mean the leaders not americans in general) are feared....
i wonder if those of you who think that canada is useless and just another part of the usa have ever been up to canada.... come on up... i'll show you some things about canada that willmake you change your mind.
CubanFox
22nd July 2004, 07:51
Originally posted by Capitalist
[email protected] 22 2004, 09:08 AM
http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,126401,00.html
Their lack of appreciation is atrocious. Without the US, their economy would be nil and the soviets would've invaded 40 years ago. They are a parasite on American success, a afterhtought in the new world, kind of like what America would''ve been if we had lost the revolution. And they have the audacity to talk this mess?
Please, without the US, Canana would just plain suck. Don'tr even deny it, canucks.
Cana exists independently by our choice, not theirs. If they don't appreciate that they are succesful as a proxy state, then we should just make them a real state, or multiple states,
Ah, of course, the "gratitude scar". Stays with you long after you've "paid your dues" to the "altruistic fatherland".
Just like America and France.
"Damned frogs, they should worship us because we played a role in their liberation."
Now it's
"Damned Canucks, they should worship us because they would be 'nothing' without us."
Capitalist Imperial
22nd July 2004, 15:24
Originally posted by Che y
[email protected] 22 2004, 12:20 AM
Please don't spam :)
Now let's see if I can get you a link about that camouflage.
Here we go: CADPAT (http://www.hyperstealth.com/CADPAT-MARPAT.htm)
The US has an equivalent called MARPAT, but they don't equip most of their soldiers in it. My friends just joined the Canadian reserves and they immediately got a pair.
I believe you, never really denied it. I've seen that new pattern camo on US soldiers, too (just the Marines right now). All US military branches are slowly transitioning to it. I was just laughing about your post's overall suggestion that somehow the Canadian military was superior to the US military, though I know that you had to have been somewhat faceteous. ;)
Good job to Canada on the Cammies. We also appreciate their help in Afghanistan. They said they'd send their Army, Navy, and Air force.
It was really a relief to see the two Mounties, a canoe, and the flying squirrel! :lol:
gummo
22nd July 2004, 15:31
I would rather the US anex Mexico. I think we would get much higher quality workers that way. People that don't mind going out and earning a living.
Capitalist Imperial
22nd July 2004, 16:15
Originally posted by
[email protected] 22 2004, 06:07 AM
well its about time for me to comment on this! first of all Canada is not living off of US pharmaceutical research etc. any more than any other country. IN FACT Canada very frequently disagrees with america and often drugs that are available in the USA are NOT available in Canada... yeah that's living off the states.
and who does the us get a lot of their raw materials from? CANADA. we can stop trading with the US and the US would have some huge manufacturing problems because they wouldn't have anything to make shit out of.
and we don't need a huge military like the USA cause Canada is a hell of a lot more liked than the us... pure and simple. you travel in europe and you are treated a million times better by people if you're canadian than if you are american... weird huh?
essentially it is a MUTUAL relationship between the US and Canada, not one of dominance and submission. bloody ignorance.
and um Canada exists independently because we chose to do so... how did we make that choice... oh yeah CANADIANS BURNED DOWN THE WHITE HOUSE!!!!!! Forgot about that didn't you. Canada has a thriving economy that is often doing better than the american economy in recessions and such. we are different and we are not just an american state... believe what you will but canada has a much better position in the international world because we don't push our weight around.... we are mediators and negotiators... we are respected.... the us (and by this i mean the leaders not americans in general) are feared....
i wonder if those of you who think that canada is useless and just another part of the usa have ever been up to canada.... come on up... i'll show you some things about canada that willmake you change your mind.
well its about time for me to comment on this! first of all Canada is not living off of US pharmaceutical research etc. any more than any other country. IN FACT Canada very frequently disagrees with america and often drugs that are available in the USA are NOT available in Canada... yeah that's living off the states.
You can split hairs on specific drugs all you want, but everyone knows that Canada takes advantage of superior U.S. R&D of medicine, bar none. Yes, it is living off the states. There have been countless reports on this.
and who does the us get a lot of their raw materials from? CANADA. we can stop trading with the US and the US would have some huge manufacturing problems because they wouldn't have anything to make shit out of.
true, but we can find other suppliers. You would be hard-pressed to find another buyer as larde as the US. You need us more than we need you in this situation.
and we don't need a huge military like the USA cause Canada is a hell of a lot more liked than the us..
If you really don't understand that you are protected by the US, I don't know what to tell you. Hungarians and Tibetans are peacefull too, it didn't protect weither of them from invasion. To ignore the military protection you receive from the US is to expose your true ignorance.
you travel in europe and you are treated a million times better by people if you're canadian than if you are american... weird huh?
This is meaningless rhetoric. I would say that people are pretty much treated by how they treat others. If europeans pre-judge someone because they are American, that is Europes problem.
essentially it is a MUTUAL relationship between the US and Canada, not one of dominance and submission. bloody ignorance.
I agree. You are bloody ignorant. Ignorant of relative economies and who is dependent on who. Our relationship is mututal to some extent, but everyone knows you need us much more than we need you, bar-none.
and um Canada exists independently because we chose to do so... how did we make that choice... oh yeah CANADIANS BURNED DOWN THE WHITE HOUSE!!!!!!
yeah, right, you may as well still bow to the queen. you're a nation of anglo-philes oh, and the British territory that would later become canada burned down the white house when America was still in it's infancy. what is your point? you are welcome to try that nowadays at any time. Pick up a history book sometime, buddy.
Canada has a thriving economy that is often doing better than the american economy in recessions and such.
again, pick up a book, maybe an economiccs text. lets get one thing very clear, even with the US in recession, the Canadian economy is
never stronger than the US economy. No nation's is in absolute terms.
believe what you will but canada has a much better position in the international world because we don't push our weight around...
you don't have a "better" position, just a benign one as a nation, you are simply a non-factor, or at least a minimal factor. lets not kid ourselves, if it comes down to brass tacks, a nation will usually accomodate the US before Canada. Hec, the US negotiates too, we can just back our diplo,macy with action, something Canada can't do.
i wonder if those of you who think that canada is useless and just another part of the usa have ever been up to canada.... come on up... i'll show you some things about canada that willmake you change your mind.
Can't say i have, but I was born in Alaska, lived there for some time too. There are many similarities, and many canadian expatriates living there.
Look, man, I like Canada. My post was obviously somewhat satirical, but you have to understand that per this article, it is Canadians passing judgement the USA, not Vice-Versa, when in reality Canada receives significant economic and political benefit from the USA.
Sasha
22nd July 2004, 18:22
Originally posted by Brooklyn-Mecca+--> (Brooklyn-Mecca)Are allies supposed to refuse to criticize each other?[/b]
CubanFox
Ah, of course, the "gratitude scar". Stays with you long after you've "paid your dues" to the "altruistic fatherland".
They are wrong because their criticism isn't justified. Their political dispersion is like ours with a few steps to the left. You already know from their ideological underpinnings what their criticisms will be. As leftists, they trust in no objective morality; only the will of the majority. So they hate any sign of principle-based action, and demand that we subject ourselves to the approval of an asylum littered with tyrannical governments, known as the UN. If we don't, we're called "cowboys" and "warmongers".
I have no problem cooperating with other nations. But if they're the least bit anti-freedom, they mean nothing to me.
DaCuBaN
22nd July 2004, 19:08
I won't join this debate, I don't care if the US does decide to invade canada, it's their decision and in reality it would have no effect on the world: It would indeed concrete some sentiment against the US both from their new internal citizens and from the various nations that had better relations with Canada than the US, but it's all icing.
What concerns me far more is this madness... The device being discussed is a microphone - the abbreviation of which is a mic. I don't know what mike has to do with this...
Hail Fox!
Eastside Revolt
22nd July 2004, 20:01
If we were to break-off from the united states, assuming your fascist military industrial complex couldn't convince the public to invade. We would just have a big fucking surpluss of everything, ohhh what a horror that would be.
Your nation is built upon ingorance and propaganda, look what wonders that is doing for North Korea. You will fall soon.
gummo
22nd July 2004, 20:06
Originally posted by
[email protected] 22 2004, 08:01 PM
If we were to break-off from the united states, assuming your fascist military industrial complex couldn't convince the public to invade. We would just have a big fucking surpluss of everything, ohhh what a horror that would be.
Your nation is built upon ingorance and propaganda, look what wonders that is doing for North Korea. You will fall soon.
Uh huh, we are def a lot like North Korea :rolleyes:
Go roll up another one.
Capitalist Imperial
22nd July 2004, 20:22
Originally posted by
[email protected] 22 2004, 08:01 PM
You will fall soon.
Ahh, the hallmark hope of many commies. Don't hold your breath.
As far as propoganda goes, that is BS rhetoric.
We have as much freedom of information, and access to that information, as any other nation, and moreso, so the "American Propoganda" argument never sells.
gummo
22nd July 2004, 20:24
Originally posted by Capitalist
[email protected] 22 2004, 08:22 PM
"American Propoganda" argument never sells.
Except when dealing with Europeans and other European like livestock.
DaCuBaN
22nd July 2004, 20:28
US propoganda? You deny that the US uses propoganda?
Hehehe, the is worthy of a thread in itself! I'll be in touch...
Eastside Revolt
22nd July 2004, 21:14
Originally posted by Capitalist
[email protected] 22 2004, 08:22 PM
Ahh, the hallmark hope of many commies. Don't hold your breath.
As far as propoganda goes, that is BS rhetoric.
We have as much freedom of information, and access to that information, as any other nation, and moreso, so the "American Propoganda" argument never sells.
Did you know: Kim Jong Il really enjoys making movies, his havorites are action and drama.
Capitalist Imperial
22nd July 2004, 21:32
Originally posted by
[email protected] 22 2004, 09:14 PM
Did you know: Kim Jong Il really enjoys making movies, his havorites are action and drama.
Making movies or watching them?
I heard that both he and Saddam are Hollywood movie fans (Saddam likes mafia films, what a surprise, LOL!!!)
Osman Ghazi
23rd July 2004, 20:02
Their lack of appreciation is atrocious. Without the US, their economy would be nil and the soviets would've invaded 40 years ago.
This is the type of things mrons say. The countries that the Soviet Union invaded were either adjacent to them or their satellite states. It would have been a long trek to Canada. Besides which, why would they invade Canada? It would be very costly to keep up a garrison in a country that was alomst as big as their own.
Please, without the US, Canana would just plain suck. Don'tr even deny it, canucks.
In what context? Would we suck dick? Would we 'throw like girls'?
Cana exists independently by our choice, not theirs. If they don't appreciate that they are succesful as a proxy state, then we should just make them a real state, or multiple states,
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The concept of America invading Canada is laughable, for numerous reasons. I mean, technically, it is well within their ability, certainly the CF would offer no real resistance. But could support, either domestic or foreign ever be achieved for this goal? I think not.
As to the complaints of how we owe you, well maybe, and I stress maybe, if it had been for benevolent reasons we might be inclined to 'pay you back' as it were. However, it cannot be said that America gained nothing from this.
Capitalist Imperial
23rd July 2004, 20:28
Come on, Osman, you know that we don't need support to invade, look at Iraq.
Osman Ghazi
23rd July 2004, 21:53
But there was a lot (supposedly) of domestic support and some foreign help. Though they may not look like much, Britain's endorsement of the US invasion was probably critical.
However, I don't think Britain would help you if you tried to invade Canada. Your 'coalition of the willing' would basically be the U$, Arabia and Pakistan.
Capitalist Imperial
23rd July 2004, 22:18
Originally posted by Osman
[email protected] 23 2004, 09:53 PM
But there was a lot (supposedly) of domestic support and some foreign help. Though they may not look like much, Britain's endorsement of the US invasion was probably critical.
However, I don't think Britain would help you if you tried to invade Canada. Your 'coalition of the willing' would basically be the U$, Arabia and Pakistan.
You're probably right.
Hey, my whole original post was faceteous anyway. I like Canada. I just think that many people there don't appreciate our relationship right now.
Osman Ghazi
23rd July 2004, 22:50
Well what can I say, were idealists.
If we think something is wrong, we say so, even if it screws us over in the end.
I think MacLeans Magazine put it best when they said that Canada was the Earth's answer to Ned Flanders.
And hey, your right, Canada wouldn't be as good as it is without the states, though I hardly think that it would be a hellhole without you guys.
Hey, my whole original post was faceteous anyway
I love how close "faceteous" is to "feces" at first glance. Just an observation.
I like Canada
Awww. Isn't that sweet?
I just think that many people there don't appreciate our relationship right now.
It's not thatt we "don't appreciate our relationship", it's just that a lot of Canadians are "fed up" with your bullshit.
Just an observation.
Nickademus
25th July 2004, 16:50
Originally posted by Capitalist
[email protected] 23 2004, 02:18 PM
You're probably right.
Hey, my whole original post was faceteous anyway. I like Canada. I just think that many people there don't appreciate our relationship right now.
and you appreciate our relationship ..... buddy! and i'm not ignorant... in fact, americans are generally more ignorant of canada than canadians are of the usa.... i'm not the ignorant one here.
Spartacus2002
26th July 2004, 16:39
should the united states ever invade canada there would be alot of uprisings yes they would overrun us but subjacate us never! i would not rest until the last american occuppying infidel was drug into the street and shot just try it you fools the minute they crossed our border it would be on, i am sure the chinese would lend us some weapons
Capitalist Imperial
26th July 2004, 16:49
Originally posted by
[email protected] 26 2004, 04:39 PM
should the united states ever invade canada there would be alot of uprisings yes they would overrun us but subjacate us never! i would not rest until the last american occuppying infidel was drug into the street and shot just try it you fools the minute they crossed our border it would be on, i am sure the chinese would lend us some weapons
LOL, get serious.
It would take us about a month to overun you.
The Chinese?
All they have is a lot of land troops. But how would they get then to Canada? They would never make it to Canada. They would never be able to get past our navy or air force. They could be be stopped by 1 carrier battlegroup before getting 1/2 way across the Pacific.
Besides, they wouuld be much more interested in maintaining a relationship with the USA as opposed to Canada.
You need to re-assess the realities of the scenario, sir.
gummo
27th July 2004, 16:09
Originally posted by Capitalist
[email protected] 26 2004, 04:49 PM
LOL, get serious.
It would take us about a month to overun you.
The Chinese?
All they have is a lot of land troops. But how would they get then to Canada? They would never make it to Canada. They would never be able to get past our navy or air force. They could be be stopped by 1 carrier battlegroup before getting 1/2 way across the Pacific.
Besides, they wouuld be much more interested in maintaining a relationship with the USA as opposed to Canada.
You need to re-assess the realities of the scenario, sir.
You really think it would take a month? I figure a well planned invasion would break canadas red back in days, not weeks. Tactical strikes on canadas power plants in the middle of winter. Block all roads to the US. Sink any ship that tries to enter or leave. People would be tatooing 'W' on their newborns and begging for us to stop.
Spartacus2002
27th July 2004, 16:28
you would overrun us in days eh?
Spartacus2002
27th July 2004, 16:28
ya right, like that happened the last 3 times you guys tried to invade eh? didnt quite work out that way world opinion would be so low of you and you would be punished, and we would work out a complex form of resistance and who cares you guys are such *****es you wont even try anyways cuz if you could you would have by now, if you actually did though welcome to Viet Can :ph34r: :hammer: :che:
Capitalist Imperial
27th July 2004, 16:38
Originally posted by
[email protected] 27 2004, 04:28 PM
ya right, like that happened the last 3 times you guys tried to invade eh? didnt quite work out that way world opinion would be so low of you and you would be punished, and we would work out a complex form of resistance and who cares you guys are such *****es you wont even try anyways cuz if you could you would have by now, if you actually did though welcome to Viet Can :ph34r: :hammer: :che:
I wouldn't try to compare 1812 to today. Any 5 year old knows this.
As for your analogy to Vietnam, be advised that the US military itself did very well there. Most battles in 'Nam were victories for the US military, both on land and in the air. Vietnam was a political debaucle, not a military one.
1 month, sir, tops.
Spartacus2002
27th July 2004, 16:45
ya right you couldnt even move an army across canada in a month its to big, and if you check your history right, during the beginning of the 1812 war it was similar there was not alot of military in canada compared to what you had then the british didnt arrive on mass for a while later and we lasted alot longer just by outsmarting you...it will also be that way... go isaac brock! if it does happen again though expect feirce resistance and the assasination of all your leaders because that would be assured
Capitalist Imperial
27th July 2004, 17:01
Originally posted by
[email protected] 27 2004, 04:45 PM
ya right you couldnt even move an army across canada in a month its to big, and if you check your history right, during the beginning of the 1812 war it was similar there was not alot of military in canada compared to what you had then the british didnt arrive on mass for a while later and we lasted alot longer just by outsmarting you...it will also be that way... go isaac brock! if it does happen again though expect feirce resistance and the assasination of all your leaders because that would be assured
LOL, whatever, dude. You are expeiencing acute delusions of grandeur.
Air strikes would take most of your people and infrastructure down within weeks.
By the time troops would be on the ground, your nation would already be decimated.
Canada outsmarting anyone is a joke.
gummo
27th July 2004, 19:20
Originally posted by Capitalist
[email protected] 27 2004, 05:01 PM
LOL, whatever, dude. You are expeiencing acute delusions of grandeur.
Air strikes would take most of your people and infrastructure down within weeks.
By the time troops would be on the ground, your nation would already be decimated.
Canada outsmarting anyone is a joke.
That was funny.
I still say that they will be drowning in a matter of days. We just have to target all of their Saint Bernards. You know, the ones with the magic tonic around their necks.
Osman Ghazi
27th July 2004, 21:05
Air strikes would take most of your people and infrastructure down within weeks.
Except that unlike Iraq, we actually have post-WWII anti-air technology.
gummo
27th July 2004, 21:09
Originally posted by Osman
[email protected] 27 2004, 09:05 PM
Except that unlike Iraq, we actually have post-WWII anti-air technology.
Your five 10 year old aaa guns are not going to stop a few thousands cruise missiles from slamming into your power stations and fuel depots.
The thing I love the best about US technology is the fact that this could be done by some sailors, sitting in a warm ship, 1000 miles away, and pushing buttons.
Osman Ghazi
27th July 2004, 21:23
Your five 10 year old aaa guns are not going to stop a few thousands cruise missiles from slamming into your power stations and fuel depots.
The thing I love the best about US technology is the fact that this could be done by some sailors, sitting in a warm ship, 1000 miles away, and pushing buttons.
Except the irony is that you are in the process of equipping us with a system that was designed to be able to shoot down nuclear missiles and thus could easily handle some cruise missiles.
Plus, what about SAMs? I mean, who even uses flak anymore?
Capitalist Imperial
27th July 2004, 23:32
Originally posted by Osman
[email protected] 27 2004, 09:23 PM
Except the irony is that you are in the process of equipping us with a system that was designed to be able to shoot down nuclear missiles and thus could easily handle some cruise missiles.
Plus, what about SAMs? I mean, who even uses flak anymore?
SAM's are definitely a threat, but we have pretty good anti-radiation technology between the HARM-equipped E-6 Prowlers and F-4 wild weasels. The HARM can often be launched form stand-off distance, before the planes are even within SAM range.
Rasta Sapian
27th July 2004, 23:41
you little weak American, who builds the space arms on your shuttles, who supplies your lumber to build your homes, who supplies your drinking water, supplies planes to put out your forest fires, who exports energy to keep your people alive, who rescues new englend during a major ice or snow storm, who cleans up after your freindly fire shooting monkey military all around the world?
I'll tell you who, your cousins, many of whom left America after the revolution because they wanted to remain loyal to the crown (England) :blink:
Not to mention successfully kept your yankee asses out of the north land, which remains to this day strong and free, promoting multiculturalism, freedom, equality, and a safe place to live and raise a family! :o
We don't promote handheld firearms, we don't need them, I would single handedly beat you down to the ground with my bear hands, and stick your little gun up your fat impirial asshole........................................
gummo
27th July 2004, 23:46
Originally posted by Rasta
[email protected] 27 2004, 11:41 PM
you little weak American, who builds the space arms on your shuttles, who supplies your lumber to build your homes, who supplies your drinking water, and not to mention supplies planes to put out your forest fires, who resues new englend during a major ice or snow storm, who cleans up after your freindly fire shooting monkey military all around the world?
I'll tell you who, your cousins, many of whom left America after the revolution because they wanted to remain loyal to the crown (England) :blink:
Not to mention successfully kept your yankee asses out of the north land, which remains to this day strong and free, promoting multiculturalism, freedom, equality, and a safe place to live and raise a family! :o
We don't promote handheld firearms, we don't need them, I would single handedly beat you down to the groud with my bear hand, and stick your gun up your impirial asshole........................................
Uh huh, your the man. Be glad we give you some work or your country wouldn't be worth anything. I may be arogant but at least my arrogence is backed by reality.
Rasta Sapian
27th July 2004, 23:47
Originally posted by
[email protected] 27 2004, 11:46 PM
Uh huh, your the man. Be glad we give you some work or your country wouldn't be worth anything. I may be arogant but at least my arrogence is backed by reality.
you can have it stud
gummo
27th July 2004, 23:59
Originally posted by Rasta
[email protected] 27 2004, 11:47 PM
you can have it stud
lol thats funny. Nice one ya peasant.
Capitalist Imperial
28th July 2004, 00:31
Originally posted by Rasta
[email protected] 27 2004, 11:41 PM
you little weak American, who builds the space arms on your shuttles, who supplies your lumber to build your homes, who supplies your drinking water, supplies planes to put out your forest fires, who exports energy to keep your people alive, who rescues new englend during a major ice or snow storm, who cleans up after your freindly fire shooting monkey military all around the world?
you little weak American, who builds the space arms on your shuttles
LOL, that notion is somewhat overshadowed by the fact that we build the actual shuttles, and we gave you a simple arm contract as a favor. DO you think we need you to do that?
who supplies your lumber to build your homesT
Alaska, The Pacific Northwest, and some from Canada. Again, you need us to buy it more than we need to buy it from you. Get an economics text, einstein.
supplies planes to put out your forest fires,
So what? Who supplies who with the vast majority of Aircraft? We have fire-bombers of our own. You don't have your own military planes or jet liners. And Grumman makes much better amphibians than Dehavilland
who exports energy to keep your people alive,
Some comes from Canada, most comes from the US internally. Again, we should distinguish need from choice. We generate much more kilowatts/year than anada does, not even counting our nucear plants
who rescues new englend during a major ice or snow storm,
thanks, its the least you can do after 100+ years of economic leeching
who cleans up after your freindly fire shooting monkey military all around the world?
I'm not sure what you mean by this. As far as military goes, I prefer a bit of overzealousness over pure ineptitude, bu that's just me
I'll tell you who, your cousins, many of whom left America after the revolution because they wanted to remain loyal to the crown (England) :blink:
Wait, wait, let me get this straight, you're bragging about this?
We don't promote handheld firearms, we don't need them, I would single handedly beat you down to the ground with my bear hands, and stick your little gun up your fat impirial asshole........................................ :lol: The simple fact that you are getting tough over an internet chat board indicates that you are probably weak, LOL :lol: .
Even one of your own fellow Canadians admitted it: Canada is te "Ned Flanders" of nations.
You guys are soft.
LOL, weak puke.
gummo
28th July 2004, 00:59
hehe, I love this shit!
Nickademus
28th July 2004, 01:06
canada can't outsmart americans?... i've met americans from MICHIGAN that go to Ontario in July and expect snow... i think it would be quite easy to oustmart you especially. but of course i already mentioned that canadians generally know more about the us than the us knows about canada and you just ignored it... unable to admit the truth i guess.
and iknow 90% of canadians would fight to their death to keep the states out of canada so do NOT underestimate us...
and ok the US gets most of the energy internally huh? well how come you greedy bastards caused a huge blackout in Ontario .... it's already proven to be the US's fault, not canada's. you NEEDED our energy.
and you know you can't build shit if you don't have the materials.... and don't kid yourself, a very large portion of your raw materials come from canada.
Guerrilla22
28th July 2004, 01:27
This post is ridiculous, invade Canada? What would be the point of this?
Guerrilla22
28th July 2004, 01:35
Originally posted by
[email protected] 28 2004, 01:06 AM
i've met americans from MICHIGAN that go to Ontario in July and expect snow... i
I find this hard to believe.
Nickademus
28th July 2004, 02:18
Originally posted by
[email protected] 27 2004, 05:35 PM
I find this hard to believe.
believe it or not i've known it to happen... i've also been asked numerous times what its like living in igloos... i'm from central ontario...
do we have flush toilets? yes
do we have electricity? yes
do we have telephones? yes
these are all questions i've had to answer before...all from americans... i've actually met some that think canada is just another state because they are SO IGNORANT....
Guerrilla22
28th July 2004, 02:21
Originally posted by
[email protected] 28 2004, 02:18 AM
believe it or not i've known it to happen... i've also been asked numerous times what its like living in igloos... i'm from central ontario...
do we have flush toilets? yes
do we have electricity? yes
do we have telephones? yes
these are all questions i've had to answer before...all from americans... i've actually met some that think canada is just another state because they are SO IGNORANT....
I'm from Michigan, and most people in Michigan visit Ontario fairly often, I find it hard to believe that anyone from Michigan would say this, maybe someone from the south.
I bet he's just jealous of our superior beer.
Guerrilla22
28th July 2004, 08:01
Again, I'm not sure what the point of this whole post is. Maybe Canada should invade the US and take back its stolen hockey teams.
Capitalist Imperial
28th July 2004, 16:30
Originally posted by
[email protected] 28 2004, 02:18 AM
believe it or not i've known it to happen... i've also been asked numerous times what its like living in igloos... i'm from central ontario...
do we have flush toilets? yes
do we have electricity? yes
do we have telephones? yes
these are all questions i've had to answer before...all from americans... i've actually met some that think canada is just another state because they are SO IGNORANT....
So what? I can go up to some shanty-town or village in Canada and get sound-bites from ignorant canadians too. There are smart people and dumb people throughout the world. Lets look at who has invented more and brought more technology to the world over their respective histories. You know thae answer to that.
canada can't outsmart americans?... i've met americans from MICHIGAN that go to Ontario in July and expect snow... i think it would be quite easy to oustmart you especially. but of course i already mentioned that canadians generally know more about the us than the us knows about canada and you just ignored it... unable to admit the truth i guess.
I didn't ignore it. I just didn't find it worth responding too, as it was meaningless rhetoric. Again, I've never been to Canada, but I'm sure I can find some ignorant people there too.
By the way, we had a similar discussion in this very thread, and you posted a long diatribe to me, which I refuted point-by-point, but you didn't respond to me on that one either. I still await your response on that. Here it is:
http://www.che-lives.com/forum/index.php?s...opic=27329&st=0 (http://www.che-lives.com/forum/index.php?showtopic=27329&st=0)
Sabocat
28th July 2004, 18:13
who rescues new englend during a major ice or snow storm
Unless you're talking about the blizzard of '78, living in New England, I can't imagine what the hell you're talking about. I've lived here 42 years and I've never seen a Canadian snowplow or tractor.
In the same vane, please refresh my memory on who sent the most emergency supplies after the ship explosion in Halifax harbor. You remember....Halifax had the largest explosion second only to a nuclear blast, when the munitions ship exploded after a collision. The day after the explosion, Halifax was locked in blizzard conditions and freezing temperatures. Boston, Massachusetts (that's New England) sent train loads of supplies. In appreciation, Halifax to this day still sends a gigantic Christmas tree to the city of Boston.
and ok the US gets most of the energy internally huh?
If you're speaking of electrical energy, then yes, we get most of our energy internally. Canada supplies mostly the Northeast. But also some to the Upper Midwest, the Pacific Northwest and California.
The U.S. consumes 3.6 trillion kWh's and imports 38.48 billion kWh. So yes, I would say we definitely get most of our electrical energy internally.
If you're speaking of oil, then we import just about half of what we consume.
believe it or not i've known it to happen... i've also been asked numerous times what its like living in igloos... i'm from central ontario...
do we have flush toilets? yes
do we have electricity? yes
do we have telephones? yes
Seriously? I wish you hadn't answered all the questions, I wanted to see how many I got right! :lol: Maybe you just don't realize when people are joking.
Seriously, all this nationalistic flag waving shit (on both sides) is a waste of time.
Obviously there are misconceptions on both sides.
Capitalist Imperial
28th July 2004, 18:36
Originally posted by
[email protected] 28 2004, 06:13 PM
Seriously, all this nationalistic flag waving shit (on both sides) is a waste of time.
Obviously there are misconceptions on both sides.
you're probably right, but the waste of time is a fun waste of time
ÑóẊîöʼn
28th July 2004, 20:45
Lets look at who has invented more and brought more technology to the world over their respective histories. You know thae answer to that.
The British!
http://www.bikerflags.com/UnitedKingdomFlag.JPG
might as well do some willy waving as well :P
Capitalist Imperial
28th July 2004, 22:25
Originally posted by
[email protected] 28 2004, 08:45 PM
The British!
http://www.bikerflags.com/UnitedKingdomFlag.JPG
might as well do some willy waving as well :P
Yeah, right.
Not in the 20th centrury, sir.
ÑóẊîöʼn
28th July 2004, 22:59
You didn't say which century. Don't forget that the the British were the front runners in the Industrial Revolution, the basis for modern civilisation.
Capitalist Imperial
28th July 2004, 23:16
Originally posted by
[email protected] 28 2004, 10:59 PM
You didn't say which century. Don't forget that the the British were the front runners in the Industrial Revolution, the basis for modern civilisation.
Thats true, but America really optimized it and made it all it could be.
Eastside Revolt
30th July 2004, 19:53
Yeah, with the civil war, they really opitimized it. The way to make huge economic gains is through arms manufacturing.
Not only did they opitimize it, but they proved Lenin wrong before he even said it. Imperialism isn't the final stage of capitalism, fascism is.
CubanFox
30th July 2004, 19:56
Originally posted by
[email protected] 31 2004, 05:53 AM
Yeah, with the civil war, they really opitimized it. The way to make huge economic gains is through arms manufacturing.
Not only did they opitimize it, but they proved Lenin wrong before he even said it. Imperialism isn't the final stage of capitalism, fascism is.
He actually said that "fascism is capitalism in decay", too.
But I tend to agree with you, Redcanada.
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