lost highway- david lynch

[Pathos]

this movie is the most fucked up movie i have ever seen.....but very good. i need some help on getting the plot of this movie because it fryed my brain and now im in a corner picking at my head and thinking about the movie......someone explane this to me......PLEASE!!!!!

[Saint-Just]

This is a great film. I have never looked into the plot of this film though. If you liked this you should watch Mulholland Drive which is also very difficult to understand. I don't think you need to understand these films and there are lots of interpretations of them anyway. If you want to understand it just search for explantions on the internet and you can find loads.

[praxis1966]

I don't know if I'd call it a good movie. I consider myself to be a reasonably intelligent human being, and if I watch a movie three times without detecting a coherent plot, then it's crap. David Lynch is notorious for making art house films like this, stuff reminiscent of Pablo Picasso gone filmmaker. If you liked it, on the other hand, I'd recommend Blue Velvet in addition to Mulholland Drive (as Mao has already mentioned). Also, you might try to find the DVD collections of the TV series Twin Peaks.

[Pathos]

will do

[Saint-Just]

Originally posted by [email protected] 22 2004, 02:10 AM
I don't know if I'd call it a good movie. I consider myself to be a reasonably intelligent human being, and if I watch a movie three times without detecting a coherent plot, then it's crap.
Thats true. Although, David Lynch does not intend that people will be able to decipher his films. That does not make them better though, it makes them worse. I think he is an amazing director, but that his films would be better if they had a coherent plot. Nevertheless his films are still good as they are.

[Fabi]

All of his movies are very easy to understand. People are so used to 'approaching' everything, interpreting according to certain ideas, or along expectations based on the past, that often they fail to experience the given movie/book/poem openly.

People have problems with understanding Nietzsche, or appreciating Jim Morrison's poetry and countless other things, although all of the above are - I am serious, and this is not about me - so extremely self-explanatory that any kid could understand them.

I just watched 'Wild At Heart' again, the other day, and that, too, is a good movie. More in line with 'Blue Velvet' than with the other two, regarding story line and layering, but not any worse or better for it. Even if you don't care much for the story there is so much going on visually in respect to colors/contrasts that change in rhythm during the movie, reoccuring again and again in different forms. I love it, it is so organic. I guess one could write books about that, but it's just as rewarding to lean back and intiutively enjoy. :)

[refuse_resist]

That was a pretty trippy movie. I enjoyed it alot, even though the last time I watched it was about 5 years ago or so. The soundtrack is really good too.

[Saint-Just]

Originally posted by [email protected] 25 2004, 11:03 PM
All of his movies are very easy to understand. People are so used to 'approaching' everything, interpreting according to certain ideas, or along expectations based on the past, that often they fail to experience the given movie/book/poem openly.
That is true to some extent, but in some David Lynch films there is a plot that can be understood. It is simply difficult to see.

Also, I think there are a lot of people that can not possibly understand the things you mentioned even if they take an open approach towards them since they lack the ability to comprehend certain ideas.

[Floyd.]

Originally posted by [email protected] 25 2004, 11:03 PM
People have problems with understanding Nietzsche, or appreciating Jim Morrison's poetry and countless other things, although all of the above are - I am serious, and this is not about me - so extremely self-explanatory that any kid could understand them.
Your right everyone can understand them. But to 'appreciate' Jim Morrison's poetry is asking a fair bit. I used to think The Doors were a good band until I met someone with everything ever done by them and a ton of books and information on Jim Morrison... what a wanker, now I hate The Doors because of Jim Morrison. As for his poetry well it was shite to be honest please don't compare him to David Lynch who is just fantastic. Every David Lynch film makes sense it's just not all set in perfect reality a lot of it is metaphoric and symbolic he looks deeper within the human psyche. Eraserhead is my favourite David Lynch film I see it as his most complete work to date. In the same way writer/directors like Tarantino hang onto actors/actresses like Thurman; Lynch should of hung onto Jack Nance.

[YKTMX]

One of my favourite movies by a totally obscure genuis.

I have a vague idea what's it's about but I'm not going to share it, mainly because it will probably be insufferable. But consider this little question:

"If a tree falls and no one is there to hear it, does it still make a noise?"

I know that sounds slightly pretentious but that question I think relates to the theme of the movie in that it deals with the nature of the eyewitness.

[Floyd.]

Originally posted by [email protected] 30 2004, 12:48 PM
One of my favourite movies by a totally obscure genuis.

I have a vague idea what's it's about but I'm not going to share it, mainly because it will probably be insufferable. But consider this little question:

"If a tree falls and no one is there to hear it, does it still make a noise?"

I know that sounds slightly pretentious but that question I think relates to the theme of the movie in that it deals with the nature of the eyewitness.
Is that from The Sound of One Hand Clapping originally written by Richard Flanagan? Have you read Gould's book of Fish?

[YKTMX]

No and no.

[Fabi]

Originally posted by Comrade La [email protected] 30 2004, 02:50 AM
Your right everyone can understand them. But to 'appreciate' Jim Morrison's poetry is asking a fair bit. I used to think The Doors were a good band until I met someone with everything ever done by them and a ton of books and information on Jim Morrison... what a wanker, now I hate The Doors because of Jim Morrison. As for his poetry well it was shite to be honest please don't compare him to David Lynch who is just fantastic. Every David Lynch film makes sense it's just not all set in perfect reality a lot of it is metaphoric and symbolic he looks deeper within the human psyche. Eraserhead is my favourite David Lynch film I see it as his most complete work to date. In the same way writer/directors like Tarantino hang onto actors/actresses like Thurman; Lynch should of hung onto Jack Nance.
He did hang on to Nance, Nance just didn't hang on, or am I mistaken? I think one of the movies says 'in remembrance of Jack Nance' or something t that effect at the end. He died fairly young.

Regarding Morrison, I think you might be a bit unfair. I can understand that that friend of yours maybe spoilt him for you, and of course his lyrics as well as poetry do not really lend themselves to a classical approach - doing that will make them seem like total shit. Looking at them without discrimination, ideology, but as another honest rebel clown's expression in this world can make them the most wonderful thing. That being said I have yet to buy one of his books. Which will be this month. :) Just because something does not cater to ones taste or views does not mean you have to assume it is 'shit'. If it doesn't have all the things some want poetry to have, then maybe it is because that is not the author's priority.

When you get angry about what isn't there, often you fail to appreciate the beauty of what is there... Don't wanna sound condescending or preachy, just saying things that I think make sense and I find helpful when relating to all kinds of living things. ;) I don't need Morrison to be my idol. I don't want role models - they are evil. Marilyn Manson recently wrote a short article on the Doors for Rolling Stone that I liked. Here's the link (http://images.mail2fans.com/9932/rsdoors.jpg)

[Political Suicide]

I saw this movie years and years ago, and although i barely remember anything from it, i remember not being able to discern any coherent plot at the time. Perhaps i was young and just couldn't grasp some fo the message.. on another note..

I watched basketball diaries a few nights ago, for the second time. The first time i watched it was when it came out, and i barely remembered it at all, so i borrowed it from a friend. I found it odd that the heroin part didn't stick into my memory at all the first time i saw it. But seeing as i went through my own heroin addiction way after i saw that movie, i know now it will never leave me memory, but i thought it was wierd that it didnt stick the first time. Perhaps these realistic drug movies don't do as much as we think, perhaps the only ones who take a long term lesson from it are those who can relate to it. Just a thought.