the muslim veil - "it protects us from ugly women"

[ArgueEverything]

le pen said that (http://www.haaretzdaily.com/hasen/pages/ShArt.jhtml?itemNo=153418&contrassID=2&subContrassID=14&sbSubContrassID=0&listSrc=Y) -----scroll down to near the bottom, or search "veil" to find the quote.

this is the type of filth we are dealing with.

[queen of diamonds]

i tried searching, but i can't find the quote - would you be able to put it up here?
thanx

[BOZG]

Fortunately, there will never be Islamic unity. They're all different from one another and hostile to each other, thank God.

This is why we must protect our interests, our territory and our heritage. In this context, I prefer a regime like that of Saddam Hussein to, say, Saudi Arabia. The Ba'ath regime is secular and even permissive toward other religions. Saudi Arabia is massively funding the spread of Islam. It, rather than Iraq, should be viewed as a dangerous movement of conquest."

The Muslim veil - "It protects us from ugly women."

A non-Christian president in France - "I am against it. I believe the president should belong to the religion and culture of the majority of the citizens."


Just a few quotes from that interview. Where the fuck did they find that man? And has France gone completely insane?

[Blackberry]

Quote: from ArgueEverything on 5:55 am on April 24, 2002
le pen said that (http://www.haaretzdaily.com/hasen/pages/ShArt.jhtml?itemNo=153418&contrassID=2&subContrassID=14&sbSubContrassID=0&listSrc=Y) -----scroll down to near the bottom, or search "veil" to find the quote.

this is the type of filth we are dealing with.


I bet that the American Government (in their secret location), are having a few champagnes over this victory.

How terrible it is!

[LeonardoDaVinci]

Did you guys know that the origin of the veil has absolutely nothing to do with Islam. At the time of the prophet Mohammad only the prophet's wives were obliged to wear them. The veil was originally introduced in the Byzantine Empire, and it was just the constrained to the wives of upper-class merchants and politicians in order to distinguish them from other (common) women.

However, after the expansion of the Islamic Empire this tradition was adapted by muslims as well, and due to the increasing influence of the religious scholar within the Islamic state(a post which never existed during the lifetime of the prophet), this tradition became a law and was wrongly attributed to Islam.

[chupacabra]

I don't know why Westerners ego-maniacs that they are automatically assume that everyone else needs to be like them. Woman who veil are not respressed or anything, they do it as a respect for themselves and their religion. Did any of you guys see that dumb Barbara Walters special? She asked these Muslim woman if they wanted to be like American women. How stupid and ignorant can you be.

[BOZG]

She asked these Muslim woman if they wanted to be like American women. How stupid and ignorant can you be.

Bush Jr must of got a double helping of stupidity and ignorance seeing as it comes from both his mother and father.

[Dhul Fiqar]

Personally, I think the veil is probably not necesary in Islam, but a lot of scholars disagree. In places like Jordan and Palestine you almost never see any women with veils, just the traditional hijaba and some of them don't even cover their hair.

I understand it's not even required in Saudi Arabia or Iran.

--- G. Raven

[Moskitto]

I thought that the clothes that Islamic women wear were designed to protect women from being viewed as sex objects.

However now that in many places it's been forced on them it's been used to oppress women and turn them into like sex objects for their husbands.

[I Will Deny You]

Quote: from BornOfZapatasGuns on 2:48 am on April 24, 2002
The Muslim veil - "It protects us from ugly women."
Too bad French presidential hopefuls aren't forced to wear veils! There should be a law stating that anyone who makes an unfair generalization about millions of people will have an obligation to be better than every single one of those people in the way that they are accused of being inferior. For example: Le Pen should be forced to have facelifts and liposuction until he's 1/2" wide and twitching his lips. But even then, he will have absolutely no right to say something so wrong and stupid.

[RedRevolutionary87]

actualy it is a well known fact that some of the most beautifle women are from the midle east, the pen should shut his mouth and open his eyes

[I Will Deny You]

I thought they were all from Somalia and Puerto Rico. (And Vermont! :)) Anyway, I'm sure that Le Pen hasn't been crowned Miss Universe in recent memory.

[Derar]

What a fucking racist ..........

i hope he doesnt get to be a president ....... or i hope someone gives him a visit , beat the shit out of him with a baseball bat , and then shoves it up his ass .

[RedRevolutionary87]

i feel like goin to quebec and getting people to yell with me agenst le pen, and id go to frnce and throw rocks at him:)

[Ho]

crazy nazi!

[Angie]

Personally, I like veils. Generally for superficial reasons like they can look lovely depending on the fabric, etc. Same with Indian saris.

Also, there's the fact that most of the Middle East is desert, therefore when a dust storm kicks up, veils would prove quite handy to have, to keep the sand from whipping around the face.

[STALINSOLDIERS]

dam westerners, no one wants to be disrespectfull like the wsterners you know like being half naked walking down the streets looking like whores with there cloth.....the muslim women like what some one said which i dont feel like rereding the whole post but the muslim women do it for respect of there religion unlike most women here in usa and most part of western society which they beliven god being hald nake and disrespectful.....and the pen is ugly as fuck like all facist and capitalist.....my girl friend from pakistan weres that

(Edited by STALINSOLDIERS at 11:58 pm on April 25, 2002)

[FtWfTn]

Yea in America women are losing respect for their bodys all because . . in my oppion. . .television, pop stars, movies. . . .I'm not saying these things are bad. But I like the girl I have now who has tons of class. Not some whore.

(Edited by FtWfTn at 5:03 pm on April 25, 2002)

[Kez]

Veils are shit,
I went to Iran, and in the hot of Summer, 40 DEgrees, and the govt forced women to wear Veil and massive cloak, they musta burnt up in summers, they wear it all year round.
Should be matter of choice.
As for the argument that it doesnt let women become sex objects, then surely education is better than a veil?

comrade kamo

[Fires of History]

Any separation of men and women for religious principles is pathetically lame. The women inevitably become an alienated, subservient class. Fuck religion.

[honest intellectual]

Did you guys know that the origin of the veil has absolutely nothing to do with Islam. At the time of the prophet Mohammad only the prophet's wives were obliged to wear them. The veil was originally introduced in the Byzantine Empire, and it was just the constrained to the wives of upper-class merchants and politicians in order to distinguish them from other (common) women.


Just to clarify this, Mohammad said that women should only show their faces and hands in public.

[I Will Deny You]

Quote: from FtWfTn on 9:02 am on April 25, 2002
Yea in America women are losing respect for their bodys all because . . in my oppion. . .television, pop stars, movies. . . .I'm not saying these things are bad. But I like the girl I have now who has tons of class. Not some whore.
I'm not disagreeing with you, FtWfTn, because pop culture definitely makes lots of girls feel bad about their bodies and can make them think that all that matters is how they look, not how smart, kind, interesting or funny they are. But, unfortunately, there are way too many people who are judgemental of women who wear what they like. I wear tank tops, miniskirts, etc. not because I'm vying for attention (I've already got a boyfriend anyway), but because it gets way too fucking hot here in the summer and there are plenty of tank tops, miniskirts, etc. that I like. Some people need to take a step back and stop disrespecting others for decisions they make that don't hurt anyone.

[RedRevolutionary87]

the problem is that the naked body has become this huge taboo, it is neither anything bad nor something special, its simply flesh! i dont care what people wear, however i respect people who are faithful to their religion(as long as their religiousness dosnt impeed on my freedom)

[FtWfTn]

Sorry I will Deny You but there are plenty of girls at my school especially who act and dress whorish (if thats a word) and I find it degrating even as a male. But I respect the reason you have. And I didn't mean everyone in general. . . .so I'm sorry if you took that wrong.