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T_SP
16th July 2004, 22:37
How come when I've got a bastard of a toothache I can't see a dentist without paying through the nose for it? And then they can't see me till a week Thursday anyway! What's that all about? Where have all the dentists gone?

A prime example of how Privitisation DOES NOT WORK!!!!!!!!!!

Capitalist Imperial
16th July 2004, 22:46
Originally posted by [email protected] 16 2004, 10:37 PM
How come when I've got a bastard of a toothache I can't see a dentist without paying through the nose for it? And then they can't see me till a week Thursday anyway! What's that all about? Where have all the dentists gone?

A prime example of how Privitisation DOES NOT WORK!!!!!!!!!!
You simply need to get a job with better dental. My dental work is timely and cheap (then again, I'm American, not British, so they don't have as much work to do!!

(punch-line drum tap): da do, tashhhh!!

New Tolerance
17th July 2004, 00:39
Here's an article about the World economics of Healthcare funding from the economist magazine:

http://www.economist.com/printedition/disp...tory_ID=2895909 (http://www.economist.com/printedition/displayStory.cfm?Story_ID=2895909)

Guerrilla22
17th July 2004, 00:48
Originally posted by Capitalist [email protected] 16 2004, 10:46 PM
You simply need to get a job with better dental. My dental work is timely and cheap (then again, I'm American, not British, so they don't have as much work to do!!

(punch-line drum tap): da do, tashhhh!!
Most Americans don't have dentl insurance however, enjoy white privallege CI.

mark_d
17th July 2004, 01:41
if you think health care is expensive now, wait unitil you see how much it costs when it's free
- someone with a brain

New Tolerance
17th July 2004, 02:29
Originally posted by [email protected] 17 2004, 01:41 AM
if you think health care is expensive now, wait unitil you see how much it costs when it's free
- someone with a brain
So much for having a brain...

Misodoctakleidist
17th July 2004, 10:57
Originally posted by [email protected] 17 2004, 01:41 AM
if you think health care is expensive now, wait unitil you see how much it costs when it's free
- someone with a brain
That's certainly not the punctuation of someone with a brain.

Robber Baron
22nd July 2004, 09:55
Health care is outrageous here in the states mostly due to malpractice insurance.Which is due to the bloody hands of trial lawyers who support john commie err kerry.

Misodoctakleidist
22nd July 2004, 10:12
If you're going to continue a sentence then don't put a full stop.

Robber Baron
22nd July 2004, 10:46
Two seperate points english teacher.
It's a childish attempt to belittle me.

Misodoctakleidist
22nd July 2004, 11:38
If I point out spelling or grammer mistakes it's becuase your argument is so poor that I don't feel any need to refute it.

Danton
22nd July 2004, 13:25
Originally posted by [email protected] 22 2004, 11:38 AM
If I point out spelling or grammer mistakes it's becuase
Glass houses, pot's, kettles' etc..

Capitalist Imperial
22nd July 2004, 14:28
Originally posted by [email protected] 17 2004, 12:48 AM
Most Americans don't have dentl insurance however, enjoy white privallege CI.
Wow. "white privilege", huh?

I think its more like "I got up at 6 AM or earlier every day of my life and left my working-class duplex that me, my brother,and my single mom raising two kids lived in and went to school, studied hard, and eventually earned a degree, while still working 30+ hours/ week doing blue-collar grunt work for 5 1/2 years, and finally got a good job with good benefits." privilege.

Put the very poorly played race card away, Guerilla22. You're being cliche and pathetic.

Hate Is Art
22nd July 2004, 17:08
and in my day I had to get up at 4 30, walk seventeen miles to the bus stop, get a bus to school, where I was beaten. After school I had to go down the mine to earn a living then go to the mill and grind floor. I got home just in time for my dead mum to finish raising her 4 children and have my dad beat me with a spanner.

Once I had cleaned out the chimneys and guttering it was 5.30 and I had missed bed time completly.

Put the I've worked really hard card away CI.

Capitalist Imperial
22nd July 2004, 20:46
Originally posted by Digital [email protected] 22 2004, 05:08 PM
and in my day I had to get up at 4 30, walk seventeen miles to the bus stop, get a bus to school, where I was beaten. After school I had to go down the mine to earn a living then go to the mill and grind floor. I got home just in time for my dead mum to finish raising her 4 children and have my dad beat me with a spanner.

Once I had cleaned out the chimneys and guttering it was 5.30 and I had missed bed time completly.

Put the I've worked really hard card away CI.
Oh.. I'm sorry, my bad, I should have just let the "white privlege" comment stand when he obviously had no idea what he was talking about.

I was simply advising him of the reality, that I have in fact worked hard, and have received little due to "white privlege".

I notice that you take no exception to his comment, which was much more accusatory and ignorant of the facts.

DaCuBaN
22nd July 2004, 22:50
Yes, 'solidarity' is an absurd concept. Either agree or disagree, ideology aside. The 'white privelege' comment is however of some relevance - being a white westerner we do have many more priveleges than less developed nations.... like being able to attend further education, for one!

Still, drop the cheap shots please folks :D


Most Americans don't have dentl insurance

Yes, yet the british who have public-funded orthodontists (so long as you keep attending) and private ones have a reputation for bad teeth

What is that?

synthesis
22nd July 2004, 23:50
Originally posted by Robber [email protected] 22 2004, 02:55 AM
Health care is outrageous here in the states mostly due to malpractice insurance.Which is due to the bloody hands of trial lawyers who support john commie err kerry.
Yeah, someone who criticizes Bush for not funding the NED enough is really pretty far on the left. :rolleyes:

Y2A
25th July 2004, 00:38
Originally posted by Robber [email protected] 22 2004, 09:55 AM
Health care is outrageous here in the states mostly due to malpractice insurance.Which is due to the bloody hands of trial lawyers who support john commie err kerry.
I am a left of center democrat, but I do agree that trial lawyers are hurting the system. Republican congressmen were currently considering voting for a bill that would limit winnings to a quarter-million dollars in these malpractice cases. I do somewhat agree with it, but I don't think you can just make a flat rate out of possible winnings.

STI
25th July 2004, 00:48
This "Comrade Clinton"/"Comrade Kerry" crap is getting really old. Neither want to overthrow the capitalist system. Don't be so stupid.

Echo-Tango-Juice out.

Raisa
25th July 2004, 01:31
Originally posted by Capitalist [email protected] 22 2004, 02:28 PM
Wow. "white privilege", huh?

I think its more like "I got up at 6 AM or earlier every day of my life and left my working-class duplex that me, my brother,and my single mom raising two kids lived in and went to school, studied hard, and eventually earned a degree, while still working 30+ hours/ week doing blue-collar grunt work for 5 1/2 years, and finally got a good job with good benefits." privilege.


I am glad for you that all of your work payed off finally, that is wonderful! But I don't think that any worker should have to go through all of that shit. People are working and that is why there is "freedom", and I do not think that it is right that working people need to worry about not being able to afford medical treatment or keep their light on while they are at work making the wealth of their nations all day.

Pinko
25th July 2004, 12:28
Originally posted by [email protected] 22 2004, 10:50 PM

Yes, yet the british who have public-funded orthodontists (so long as you keep attending) and private ones have a reputation for bad teeth

What is that?
Hmm, let's see...

People from the US have a reputation for being overweight and lazy.
Is that true too?


---Edit---
I supose I had better expand before mud starts getting slung around.

People in the UK are less interested in changing their physical appearance to conform to some standard banged out by some West Coast US stamping factory somewhere.
We are less likely to undergo cosmetic surgery to enhance a breast of correct a nose line. Our women do not strive to look like some large chested blonde with apple pie looks. We appreciate individuality and uniqueness.

This runs to dental treatment too. We are less interested in having two rows of polished white tombstones in our mouths. Whiteness is a sign of brittle teeth (in nature anyway), healthy teeth should have a slight yellow colouring to them.

Personally, I find two perfect rows of teeth unnerving to look at; it is unnatural.

It is true though that dental care in the UK is in a shambles. However, dentists have never truely been part of the NHS (National Health Service). They have been private practicioners that sub-contract work from the NHS. This led to dentists performing unneccesary dental work on patients because the NHS mostly just paid up without question. The NHS cracked down on this malpractice and many dentists left the NHS contractor list.

It is not the NHS that is failing in this instance, it is the private practitioners that got greedy that ruined it for all.

Many of the NHS' problems stem from the government trying to privatise bits of it off. There is only one way for a hospital to attract private investors and that is for it to make money. This is inimicable to the methods and ideals of the NHS.