Bad Mood? Cheer up if you're American!!

[Capitalist Imperial]

Ever have "one of those days"? You know the kind: The boss is screaming "I want it yesterday!," the kids have the flu, and your hair is sticking up on end like Don King's. Well, on those days, it's important to keep things in perspective. After all, you live in the richest, most powerful nation in the whole gosh-darn world!

You may have a run in your pantyhose, and the floor of your car may be covered with a week's worth of Styrofoam coffee cups, but you shouldn't be a frowny Frank. Keep that chin up, and remember that our country has more than 1.3 million military personnel on active duty and the most advanced weapons systems on Earth. That should turn anyone's frown upside down.

Even on a Monday—heck, even on a rainy Monday—our nation has nearly three times the purchasing power of Japan, which has the world's second largest economy. That's gotta make you smile. So hang in there!

Speaking of "Hang In There!," have you ever seen the poster with the picture of the kitten hanging from the branch? I have it on the wall of my cubicle at the insurance agency. It reminds me to keep reaching for the stars, even when I feel discouraged. Sure, life's an uphill battle. Sometimes, you want to throw your hands up and say, "I give up!" But at those moments, you owe it to yourself to give it another try.

Psst... I've got a secret remedy for a case of the blues. First, buy yourself a treat. Ice cream, flowers, a foot-massage kit—it doesn't matter what, so long as it's something you love. Then, take a look at the latest statistics from the World Health Organization. At least in your country, you don't have a one-in-three chance of being HIV-positive, like the people in some places! Did you know that AIDS will account for 44.7 percent of adult deaths in South Africa this year and is projected to account for 78.6 percent by 2010? Not in America, though! That's why, around these parts, every day is a rainbow day!

Sometimes, it feels like I can't do anything right. This morning, for example, I dropped my toast on the floor. (Guess which side it landed on.) Then, when I got to work, I realized I'd forgotten my desk keys—again! I was this close to getting seriously down on myself when I remembered something I definitely have done right in my life: I was born in the U.S.A.! Just think where I could've been born: North Korea, Cambodia, Burkina Faso. I could be dead by now, killed by starvation, malaria, tidal wave, rebel insurgents, drought, civil war, well poisoning, a land mine... I won't bore you, but the list goes on and on!

You know that old saying, "Life begins at 40"? Well, not in Sierra Leone! The life expectancy there is 38! I don't think we're in Kansas anymore, Toto!

Did you know that the U.S. makes up only 4 percent of the world's population, yet we have a third of its automobiles and consume a quarter of its energy supply? Keep that in mind the next time you get passed over for that big promotion at work!

Now, I'm not saying I never complain. There are lots of things that make me mad. Like waiting in line. It drives me absolutely batty! Doesn't it seem like every time you get in line at the post office, the line you pick winds up moving half as fast as the one next to it? But if you switch to the other line, the one you'd been in suddenly starts moving! At times like that, I just close my eyes and think about our country's 3.9 million miles of paved roads, enough to circle the Earth at the equator 157 times.

Yes, whenever I need a super-duper pick-me-up, I just think about my elite status as an American citizen. That never fails to put the feather back in my cap. Sure, there's a war going on and lots of other problems, but let's keep in mind that over the past 20 years, our economy has grown at a faster rate than at any other time in our history. That means when Friday comes, it's time to celebrate with a happy-hour raspberry margarita at Applebee's! Why not? I'm from America, the wealthiest country in the entire world!

[T_SP]

That's why the dollar keeps going down against the pound eh! What's it at now? About $1.80 to the £????
And just when you think your day couldn't get much worse, you end up in argument with a Commie!

[RedCeltic]

What are you talking about dude... the economy is in the sewer and less jobs have been created since the term of Herbert Hoover. We have massive unemployment, jobs being shipped overseas, Tuition for higher education being raised while aid is being cut...

... and a president who instead of addressing the concerns of working class America decided to spend billions of dollars on an unnecessary war. :angry:

[Capitalist Imperial]

Originally posted by [email protected] 16 2004, 10:39 PM
That's why the dollar keeps going down against the pound eh! What's it at now? About $1.80 to the £????
And just when you think your day couldn't get much worse, you end up in argument with a Commie!
Hey, the sun even shines on a dogs butt some days!

Seriously, you can't hang your hat on currency fluctuations. They are just that, fluctuations. It won't be like that forever. The Dollar will be on top a year from now, then the Euro again, and so on. That doesn't mean that your economy is stronger, not in the least. Lets talk total GDP, where the US consistently outperforms the whole of Europe!!!

[Capitalist Imperial]

Originally posted by [email protected] 16 2004, 10:52 PM
What are you talking about dude... the economy is in the sewer and less jobs have been created since the term of Herbert Hoover. We have massive unemployment, jobs being shipped overseas, Tuition for higher education being raised while aid is being cut...

... and a president who instead of addressing the concerns of working class America decided to spend billions of dollars on an unnecessary war. :angry:
Even when its in the sewer, it is still the world's strongest by a wide margin.

Wow, that helps my point even more!!!

Thanks, RC!!!

"massive unemployment"? I think not. Besides, all market indicators are up. We are strenghthening at this point, not weakeneing.

[1949]

and your hair is sticking up on end like Don King's.

Are you insulting Don King? Don King is cool.


Just think where I could've been born: North Korea,


killed by starvation

Thanks to Ixabert at Ernesto Guevara for this:

There was a famine in the DPRK in the late nineties, brought about by massive floods and natural disasters, and worsened by the economic blockade. The droughts hit at critical stages in the crop cycle (e.g. planting, pollination/flowering). These factors greatly hindered rice and maize productivity and production. There were also huge shortages of fertilisers and other essential agro-chemicals. Unfavourable rainful and water availability also adversely affected the production of paddies, patatoes, and barley. And although the droughts affected parts of China and the Middle East, nonetheless they hit the DPRK the worst, for the DPRK can only produce food during one season of the year (June to October). The DPRK, moreover, has difficulty importing food, and therefore had to rely on assistance from the international community, on which it had relied for over half a decade. However, the assistance did not meet what was required to maintain agriculture and food production.

Such was one the conclusions of the FAO/WFP Crop and Food Supply Assessment Mission to DPRK report (which can be read here: http://www.reliefweb.int/w/rwb.nsf/480fa87...59?OpenDocument [This does not seem to work anymore. -1949]).

In spite of this, the US, intent upon starving the people of the DPRK into submission, is still pressuring other countries to stop exporting food to the DPRK. (They are still suffering from shortages, but certainly no famine.)

From the National Lawyer's Guild report:

". . . we covered nearly 500 kilometers. During that time we had the opportunity to see agricultural communities and small towns. We noticed that the people on the whole looked well dressed and active. We saw no one who looked malnourished or emaciated and our observations were confirmed by many of the foreigners we met who had dealings around the country. The DPRK has very little areable land and we saw crops being harvested everywhere it was possible to grow them. It appears every square inch of arable land is cultivated, and on the roofs of their country cottages people had planted vines of what looked like melons or squash. The people we passed on the road or in rural towns looked relaxed. The images of children heading to school or playing, or women sitting side saddle on bikes as their husbands pedaled, provided human moments that moments that make war unthinkable. No one seemed dispirited or broken."

From here: http://www.nlg.org/korea/myths_of_the_hermit.html
"MYTH #2 - People are being Starved to Death by the Government
"While officials we met admitted to food shortages and hunger during the floods and natural disasters of the late 1990's, this is really old news. At that time it was the DPRK government who reached out to the international community for disaster food assistance. Today they are still in need of some imports, as are most countries, but everywhere we traveled we saw crops growing - even on rooftops. Rice was laid out to dry without guards. Small fruit stands existed and people looked healthy and active. Many others we met who traveled around the country supported our observations. Even in the countryside, housing is provided free to all DPRK residents.

"Sadly, the U.S. push for economic sanctions, and its pressuring of Japan, South Korea and other countries to cut off their food exports to the DPRK, exemplifies the inhumanity of using food and starvation as a political tool. With the emerging false justifications to start the war with Iraq, it is incumbent to set the record straight and base our decisions on up to date information."


Then, take a look at the latest statistics from the World Health Organization. At least in your country, you don't have a one-in-three chance of being HIV-positive, like the people in some places! Did you know that AIDS will account for 44.7 percent of adult deaths in South Africa this year and is projected to account for 78.6 percent by 2010? Not in America, though! That's why, around these parts, every day is a rainbow day!

Maybe if the U.S. imperialists weren't blocking AIDS medicine to Africa, (http://rwor.org/a/v21/1010-019/1019/aids.htm) then there would not be such an AIDS crisis there.

Our standards of living in America are because of the super-exploitation of the Third World.

[Capitalist Imperial]

Maybe if the U.S. imperialists weren't blocking AIDS medicine to Africa, then there would not be such an AIDS crisis there.

Oh, so the African AIDS crisis is America's fault. Ahh, how silly of me not to recognize that. I definitely apologize.

Just like every other world problem, of course. Its America's fault!!!

Damn Yankees!!!

[1949]

Did you read the fucking article?

[Ortega]

Originally posted by [email protected] 16 2004, 06:39 PM
That's why the dollar keeps going down against the pound eh! What's it at now? About $1.80 to the £????
:lol:

Quite a "kkkapitalist" thing to be bragging about.

[Capitalist Imperial]

Originally posted by [email protected] 16 2004, 11:12 PM
Did you read the fucking article?
Yes, I did sir, but your conclusion is still not an apt one.

You are attributing false causation the the USA for Africa's AIDS crisis.

[Kurai Tsuki]

For the rest of the world that attitude would be more like "Well, at least I'm not an American" I wish I could say the same.

[Ortega]

Originally posted by Kurai [email protected] 16 2004, 07:47 PM
For the rest of the world that attitude would be more like "Well, at least I'm not an American" I wish I could say the same.
Don't start with that shit, Tsuki. To hate a country's government is absolutely acceptable. To hate a country's citizens is nothing more than racism, whether or not you are part of the group you are attacking.

http://www.che-lives.com/forum/index.php?showtopic=25794

[Kurai Tsuki]

Okay, I'll rephrase it. I hate the government and the conditions it creates within America and therefore I hate having to live under those conditions. I hate living in America, I don't hate Americans.

[Capitalist Imperial]

Originally posted by Kurai [email protected] 16 2004, 11:47 PM
For the rest of the world that attitude would be more like "Well, at least I'm not an American" I wish I could say the same.
I love this sentiment: "I'm a self-loathing American that wishes I wasn't American, whaa whaa whaaa". So cliche, self-indulgant, and pathetic.

Why don't you leave, then tiger? What in the heck is stopping you? This isn't North Korea, you know, you can leave at any time.

Or are you going to continue to sit in the US, sucking on the cows nipple, while complaining about the cow?

Or are you just some kid who doesn't know his butt from a gulag, sitting in his middle-class parent's computer playing armchair revolutionary, not realizing that in about 5 more years that you will look back on yourself and laugh at your self-righteousness and blind futility.

At least the last option is legit, as you can't leave until you are 18. if that is the case, then good riddance once you're an adult. Where are you going to go? What is your plan?

[Ortega]

Originally posted by Kurai [email protected] 16 2004, 08:20 PM
Okay, I'll rephrase it. I hate the government and the conditions it creates within America and therefore I hate having to live under those conditions. I hate living in America, I don't hate Americans.
Alright, that's fair.

[Kurai Tsuki]

I wish it were so easy to leave, if only most of the decent countries didn't make it so difficult to get citizenship. I wish it were as easy to leave the United States as you make it sound.

I'm 21, make sure you check people's profiles before making assumptions about them.

[Kurai Tsuki]

Getting citizenship in an non-American industralized country isn't any easier than getting citizenship in the United States.

[Guerrilla22]

[QUOTE]Even on a Monday—heck, even on a rainy Monday—our nation has nearly three times the purchasing power of Japan, which has the world's second largest economy. That's gotta make you smile. So hang in there!

Yeah, unfortunately the US also has about 100 times the debt on Japan also, debt which keeps mounting everyday, as the social security fund, which has been tapped more times that a 2 cent hooker over the years, continues to dwindle into nothing.

[synthesis]

It's interesting how all these patriots constantly extol the greatness of America but believe in denying access to certain people who wish to come. It's a little contradictory.

[Osman Ghazi]

After all, you live in the richest, most powerful nation in the whole gosh-darn world!

So? Its not like the average person sees any benefit from that.


Keep that chin up, and remember that our country has more than 1.3 million military personnel on active duty and the most advanced weapons systems on Earth. That should turn anyone's frown upside down.

Can I ask you a personal question? Do you have some kind of attraction to guys in uniform? Seriously, why would America's power to kill impress you? Hell, I'm much more impressed by the worlds nuclear arsenal. I hear its equivalent to 4 tonnes of TNT for every man, woman and child on the face of the earth.


our nation has nearly three times the purchasing power of Japan, which has the world's second largest economy. That's gotta make you smile. So hang in there!

*Sighs* Can't you get anything right? Japan's economy is worth 3.5 trillion bucks. China's is worth 6.5 trillion. Thusly, it would seem that no, Japan doesn't have the world's second largest ecnomy.


Did you know that AIDS will account for 44.7 percent of adult deaths in South Africa this year and is projected to account for 78.6 percent by 2010? Not in America, though! That's why, around these parts, every day is a rainbow day!

And because American biotech companies want their cash, they make people pay 15,000 dollars for something that costs 350 to make. And because of that, millions of people die. But whatever, they're just Africans, they don't have 'elite status' like Americans.


I was born in the U.S.A.! Just think where I could've been born: North Korea, Cambodia, Burkina Faso. I could be dead by now, killed by starvation, malaria, tidal wave, rebel insurgents, drought, civil war, well poisoning, a land mine... I won't bore you, but the list goes on and on!

One of the main differences I've noticed between capitlaists and communists is that cappies tend to generally have an attitude that things 'just exist'. They recognize that there are reasons for something, but rather than delving deeper, they prefer to accept it at face-value. For example, no mention that America and the other Western states are the one most responsible for the devastation of these countries.


Did you know that the U.S. makes up only 4 percent of the world's population, yet we have a third of its automobiles and consume a quarter of its energy supply? Keep that in mind the next time you get passed over for that big promotion at work!

I really don't understand you. This is one of the thing's I find most disgusting about modern American society. I think decadence is probably the best word to desrice it. And we all know the result of decadence: downfall.


Yes, whenever I need a super-duper pick-me-up, I just think about my elite status as an American citizen. That never fails to put the feather back in my cap. Sure, there's a war going on and lots of other problems, but let's keep in mind that over the past 20 years, our economy has grown at a faster rate than at any other time in our history.

Ironic you should say that because your quintile has seen its share of the GDP drop 9 percent over those etwenty years. But then again, no one ever said capitalist cheerleaders were smart.

[LuZhiming]

.... What's funny about this is the fact that Iceland, Sweden, or Denmark have much higher living standards than the U.S. does. The point that the U.S. consumes a third of the world's supplies only points out the incredible amount of resource that are spent on waste and destruction in the United States.

P.S. It isn't the fault of the United States for the huge AIDS epidemics in Africa, just Europe's.

[Subversive Pessimist]

I was this close to getting seriously down on myself when I remembered something I definitely have done right in my life: I was born in the U.S.A.!

You didn't do anything. Your parents did.


.... What's funny about this is the fact that Iceland, Sweden, or Denmark have much higher living standards than the U.S. does.

Don't forget Norway. We have the best living standard in the world. Iceland is 2nd, I believe. Imagine how better it could do if we had economic equality (IE socialism) in this country. We still have problems. 5000 homeless, 40 000 living in poverty. So much potential, so much waste.

[Guerrilla22]

Originally posted by Capitalist [email protected] 16 2004, 10:57 PM


"massive unemployment"? I think not. Besides, all market indicators are up. We are strenghthening at this point, not weakeneing.
Well, considering that US has the world's largest GDP, the world's largest economy and the most spending power of any nation by far, isn't it a little sad that around 7% of the population is unempoyed? As far as economic growth, what the government is not telling you is that the majority of the economic growth has come in the service sector, good luck supporting a family by flipping hamburgers.

[1949]

Well, considering that US has the world's largest GDP, the world's largest economy and the most spending power of any nation by far, isn't it a little sad that around 7% of the population is unempoyed?

True, and let's not forget that the numbers are much higher for the non-white nationalities. In NYC, for example, almost half of black men are unemployed! (source) (http://rwor.org/a/1244/black_unemployment.htm)

[Capitalist Imperial]

Originally posted by Kurai [email protected] 17 2004, 12:25 AM
Getting citizenship in an non-American industralized country isn't any easier than getting citizenship in the United States.
So America welcomes you and provides you with countless opportunity, and these other "desired" nations are trying to keep you out, bt you still want to join them, huh?

What does that tell you?

[Capitalist Imperial]

Originally posted by [email protected] 17 2004, 05:50 PM
.... What's funny about this is the fact that Iceland, Sweden, or Denmark have much higher living standards than the U.S. does. The point that the U.S. consumes a third of the world's supplies only points out the incredible amount of resource that are spent on waste and destruction in the United States.

P.S. It isn't the fault of the United States for the huge AIDS epidemics in Africa, just Europe's.

Don't forget Norway. We have the best living standard in the world. Iceland is 2nd, I believe. Imagine how better it could do if we had economic equality (IE socialism) in this country. We still have problems. 5000 homeless, 40 000 living in poverty. So much potential, so much waste.



I would submit that I probably have a higher living standard than you average Scandanavian.

Besides, those are welfare states. What are tax-rates andv private-property ownership rates in those nations compared to the USA? They pail in comparison.

I'll keep my individual determination, thanks.

[Hate Is Art]

:rolleyes:

Husband: I'm feeling down honey, what should I do?
Wife: Salute the flag then go and buy a new cappucino machine, that will make everything A'OK!

[Invader Zim]

CI this is an artical which I have seen before. Stop ripping others work, and put a link to it.

[Danton]

Originally posted by [email protected] 17 2004, 05:50 PM
.... What's funny about this is the fact that Iceland, Sweden, or Denmark have much higher living standards than the U.S. does.
These afforementioned nations also have the highest rates of suicide in the world, and the most boring people.

[FatFreeMilk]

CI this is an artical which I have seen before. Stop ripping others work, and put a link to it.
:o
He's one of those elitist American citizens that steals!

[Saint-Just]

Originally posted by Capitalist [email protected] 16 2004, 11:42 PM
Yes, I did sir, but your conclusion is still not an apt one.

You are attributing false causation the the USA for Africa's AIDS crisis.
AIDS is the fault of America since African countries have adopted American culture and American economic thinking. In America, promuscuity culture is rife. In Africa you have many males using prostitutes, contracting AIDS from them and then giving it to their wives and other women. If you listen to American rap music this kind of culture is advocated, similarly in its films and TV programmes. In addition, drug use is glorified in America in the same way.

If America set a good example then it could help fight AIDS in other countries. The Bush administration has given a sizeable sum of money to fight AIDS in Africa. But really it needs to change the culture in its own country and the culture of Africa. The AIDS infection rate is greater in the U.S. than it is in the UK despite the fact that the U.S. has a far greater GDP per capita. This is because the U.S. has a bad culture.

The problem with American culture is that you are permitted to do almost anything to make money. Thus you can make a CD where you say to people it is ok to sleep with as many women as possible or to rape a woman. In addition, you have a culture where generation of wealth by the individual is presented in a way that people will step on others and break the law to become richer.

[LuZhiming]

Originally posted by [email protected] 19 2004, 07:49 AM
These afforementioned nations also have the highest rates of suicide in the world, and the most boring people.
Source? From what I have found, I seriously wonder what the hell you're talking about. Iceland has a lower suicide rate than the United States. The highest suicide rates in the world per 100,000 inhabitants are as follows:

1. Lithuania 42.0
2. Russia 37.4
3. Belarus 35.0
4. Latvia 34.3
5. Estonia 33.2
6. Hungary 32.1
7. Slovenia 30.9
8. Ukraine 29.4
9. Kazakhstan 28.7
10. Finland 24.3

http://www.aneki.com/suicide.html


Although there are other ways to evaluate suicide rates, I'm willing to look at your information, if you really have any.



By the way, I like your avatar.

[gummo]

Originally posted by Capitalist [email protected] 16 2004, 11:11 PM

Oh, so the African AIDS crisis is America's fault. Ahh, how silly of me not to recognize that. I definitely apologize.

Just like every other world problem, of course. Its America's fault!!!

Damn Yankees!!!
Hrm, and I thought AIDS came from Africa. I think they did it on purpose and deserve a couple of nukes.

[gummo]

Originally posted by Capitalist [email protected] 16 2004, 10:33 PM
Ever have "one of those days"? You know the kind: The boss is screaming "I want it yesterday!," the kids have the flu, and your hair is sticking up on end like Don King's. Well, on those days, it's important to keep things in perspective. After all, you live in the richest, most powerful nation in the whole gosh-darn world!

You may have a run in your pantyhose, and the floor of your car may be covered with a week's worth of Styrofoam coffee cups, but you shouldn't be a frowny Frank. Keep that chin up, and remember that our country has more than 1.3 million military personnel on active duty and the most advanced weapons systems on Earth. That should turn anyone's frown upside down.

Even on a Monday—heck, even on a rainy Monday—our nation has nearly three times the purchasing power of Japan, which has the world's second largest economy. That's gotta make you smile. So hang in there!

Speaking of "Hang In There!," have you ever seen the poster with the picture of the kitten hanging from the branch? I have it on the wall of my cubicle at the insurance agency. It reminds me to keep reaching for the stars, even when I feel discouraged. Sure, life's an uphill battle. Sometimes, you want to throw your hands up and say, "I give up!" But at those moments, you owe it to yourself to give it another try.

Psst... I've got a secret remedy for a case of the blues. First, buy yourself a treat. Ice cream, flowers, a foot-massage kit—it doesn't matter what, so long as it's something you love. Then, take a look at the latest statistics from the World Health Organization. At least in your country, you don't have a one-in-three chance of being HIV-positive, like the people in some places! Did you know that AIDS will account for 44.7 percent of adult deaths in South Africa this year and is projected to account for 78.6 percent by 2010? Not in America, though! That's why, around these parts, every day is a rainbow day!

Sometimes, it feels like I can't do anything right. This morning, for example, I dropped my toast on the floor. (Guess which side it landed on.) Then, when I got to work, I realized I'd forgotten my desk keys—again! I was this close to getting seriously down on myself when I remembered something I definitely have done right in my life: I was born in the U.S.A.! Just think where I could've been born: North Korea, Cambodia, Burkina Faso. I could be dead by now, killed by starvation, malaria, tidal wave, rebel insurgents, drought, civil war, well poisoning, a land mine... I won't bore you, but the list goes on and on!

You know that old saying, "Life begins at 40"? Well, not in Sierra Leone! The life expectancy there is 38! I don't think we're in Kansas anymore, Toto!

Did you know that the U.S. makes up only 4 percent of the world's population, yet we have a third of its automobiles and consume a quarter of its energy supply? Keep that in mind the next time you get passed over for that big promotion at work!

Now, I'm not saying I never complain. There are lots of things that make me mad. Like waiting in line. It drives me absolutely batty! Doesn't it seem like every time you get in line at the post office, the line you pick winds up moving half as fast as the one next to it? But if you switch to the other line, the one you'd been in suddenly starts moving! At times like that, I just close my eyes and think about our country's 3.9 million miles of paved roads, enough to circle the Earth at the equator 157 times.

Yes, whenever I need a super-duper pick-me-up, I just think about my elite status as an American citizen. That never fails to put the feather back in my cap. Sure, there's a war going on and lots of other problems, but let's keep in mind that over the past 20 years, our economy has grown at a faster rate than at any other time in our history. That means when Friday comes, it's time to celebrate with a happy-hour raspberry margarita at Applebee's! Why not? I'm from America, the wealthiest country in the entire world!
Man, I love the USA! Last night, after working on my fence, I was floating in my swimming pool and looking at the beautiful Pindo palm, that I paid $475 for, thinking how great it looked overshadowing my hot tub. That $29000 I spent for the pool setup was worth every penny. My $1800 dog was curled up next to the pool and enjoying it just as much as I do. It's great to only be 30 years old and have such a great life!

God Bless the USA!

Ya'll have a great day!!!!

[Sabocat]

I was floating in my swimming pool

[Capitalist Imperial]

Originally posted by Chairman [email protected] 20 2004, 01:00 PM
AIDS is the fault of America since African countries have adopted American culture and American economic thinking. In America, promuscuity culture is rife. In Africa you have many males using prostitutes, contracting AIDS from them and then giving it to their wives and other women. If you listen to American rap music this kind of culture is advocated, similarly in its films and TV programmes. In addition, drug use is glorified in America in the same way.

If America set a good example then it could help fight AIDS in other countries. The Bush administration has given a sizeable sum of money to fight AIDS in Africa. But really it needs to change the culture in its own country and the culture of Africa. The AIDS infection rate is greater in the U.S. than it is in the UK despite the fact that the U.S. has a far greater GDP per capita. This is because the U.S. has a bad culture.

The problem with American culture is that you are permitted to do almost anything to make money. Thus you can make a CD where you say to people it is ok to sleep with as many women as possible or to rape a woman. In addition, you have a culture where generation of wealth by the individual is presented in a way that people will step on others and break the law to become richer.
I can't believe this apologist diatribe oozing with false causation and a desperate attempt to blame the US for what is clearly Africa's problem.

Oh, wait, actually, I can believe it. As everyone knows, personal responsibility is a foreign concept to communists.

The culture that the US propogates is irrelevant. Even if Africans are mimicing us, it is still their choice and their responsibility, isn't that self evident to any reasonable individual???

Oh, again, I forgot, responsibility and reason, hallmarks not often associated with the left.

[DaCuBaN]

This was literally intended to 'bait' the younger socialists - Why not find an article with some substance to discuss? That said, I'm young-ish, so I'll comment.

It's not about apportioning blame... it's about trying to help... it's about trying to be the best person you can. I can't stop you from living your life as you wish nor would I try, but I beseach you: Have a fucking heart. The US is the world 'superpower' and as such holds the cards as far as 'saving the world' is concerned. I'm sure you'll never amount to anything so great as to gain an entry in the annals of history, but personally I'd feel quite upset when the end of my lifetime arrives and not only have I done nothing to ease the suffering of my fellow man, but I have made the situation worse.

Not that it means anything to you - you hold our opinions to no value - but I pity you.

[Capitalist Imperial]

Originally posted by [email protected] 20 2004, 03:14 PM
This was literally intended to 'bait' the younger socialists - Why not find an article with some substance to discuss? That said, I'm young-ish, so I'll comment.


Finally, someone actually gets it.

This whole thing was a cut/-paste job from "The Onion". It is pure satire.

And a lot of you commie - pukes took it so seriously and just ate it up, LOL, LOL :lol:

Come on, you have to admit it was funny.

By the way DaCubaN, good job on the insight, but save the pity for one who needs it.

[gummo]

Hehe,

I love that picture! Mines in a dualy though :angry:

[DaCuBaN]

save the pity for one who needs it

I don't know... the fact that you felt the need to bait these poor sods is worthy of the pity in itself ;)

[Capitalist Imperial]

Originally posted by [email protected] 20 2004, 03:55 PM

I don't know... the fact that you felt the need to bait these poor sods is worthy of the pity in itself ;)
Not half as bad as them biting it so hard. ;)

[Fidelbrand]

You should feel proud to have a president like this:

[gummo]

I think it's safe to say that everyone does this about half the time you pick up binoculars.

[Fidelbrand]

Originally posted by [email protected] 21 2004, 01:10 AM
I think it's safe to say that everyone does this about half the time you pick up binoculars.
say you are correct...1/2 does that. (I don't)

But... that's your supposed mighty president of your mighty nation, right? There should be something about him.... Talking Liberty ? Free the cover of the lens first~ ;)

[Capitalist Imperial]

Originally posted by [email protected] 20 2004, 04:35 PM
You should feel proud to have a president like this:
You should do a little more critical thinking before you post this picture. One of your leftist gadfly contemporaries posted this long ago. Its been posted here several times.

The truth about this picture is that it was taken the exact moment he put the binoculars up to his eyes. He quickly realized the caps were on, and then removed them. Anyone who has used binoclars with any regularity has made this mistake.

It is simply a picture out of context, that is all.

[Fidelbrand]

Originally posted by Capitalist [email protected] 21 2004, 02:50 AM
You should do a little more critical thinking before you post this picture. One of your leftist gadfly contemporaries posted this long ago. Its been posted here several times.

The truth about this picture is that it was taken the exact moment he put the binoculars up to his eyes. He quickly realized the caps were on, and then removed them. Anyone who has used binoclars with any regularity has made this mistake.

It is simply a picture out of context, that is all.
Critical thinking again? :blink: :lol:
Is there a rule of not posting something twice? Police State!? :ph34r:
I just want to post a picture to "cheer you up if you're American".


The truth about this picture is that it was taken the exact moment he put the binoculars up to his eyes.

how about the little pic. below?

[Capitalist Imperial]

Originally posted by [email protected] 20 2004, 07:21 PM
Critical thinking again? :blink: :lol:
Is there a rule of not posting something twice? Police State!? :ph34r:
I just want to post a picture to "cheer you up if you're American".



how about the little pic. below?
In the pic below, he was holding the book for the kids benefit as she read her copy. He wasn't actually reading with her. Again, he probably turned it around after realizing it was upside down.

[Vinny Rafarino]

Originally posted by [email protected] 20 2004, 05:10 PM
I think it's safe to say that everyone does this about half the time you pick up binoculars.
I agree.

This picture can hardly be considered an attack on his intelligence.


Edit:

The bottom picture is an obvious fake. You can even see where the little girl's thumb has been erased leaving a thum shaped white mark on Bush's. You can also the the pixel differences where her hand had to be removed. I mean come on, it's not even a good job a photoshopping!

[Fidelbrand]

Originally posted by Capitalist [email protected] 21 2004, 04:01 AM
In the pic below, he was holding the book for the kids benefit as she read her copy. He wasn't actually reading with her. Again, he probably turned it around after realizing it was upside down.

he was holding the book for the kids benefit as she read her copy

it's sad to see how you foolhardily protect this little twat. He doesn't represent the totality of U.S. , (although he presents it in some extent), you don't have to support every single bit of U.S. Critically think about this point.
If you don't agree with repetitive facts and behaviors that can show how an asshole can be a stupid president, then i have nothing to add more, CAPITALIST IMPERIALIST..

If you want to be a better Amerikan, please read "Rogue Nation". It is written by someone who genuinely loves U.S.

[Vinny Rafarino]

Originally posted by Capitalist [email protected] 20 2004, 08:01 PM
In the pic below, he was holding the book for the kids benefit as she read her copy. He wasn't actually reading with her. Again, he probably turned it around after realizing it was upside down.
B.S. It's a bad fake.

Here, take a look at this...any one can see all they did was use the images from the girl's book and flip them over and paste them on Bush's book.

Like I sauid, it's not even a good editing job.

[Invader Zim]

As I have already pointed out, this article from CI, has not been credited to its real author. Perhaps CI thinks that he can get away with stealing others material? Maybe its because he is not bright enough to come up with his own.

Well anyhow, after waiting for him to quote his sources, and seeing him post several times since pointing it out, I have decided to end his dishonesty and do it for him: -

http://onion.com/opinion/index.php?issue=4026&o=2

It [the article] is written by one "Tammy Kuntz", which either suggests that the article is a joke, or this person was blessed with not only rabid patriotic stupidity, but also with a truly hilarious name. Tammy Kuntz, classic. :D

[Fidelbrand]

Originally posted by Comrade [email protected] 21 2004, 04:46 AM
B.S. It's a bad fake.

Here, take a look at this...any one can see all they did was use the images from the girl's book and flip them over and paste them on Bush's book.

Like I sauid, it's not even a good editing job.
Raf, the girl's fingers are not that far apart.

[synthesis]

Originally posted by [email protected] 20 2004, 02:17 PM
As I have already pointed out, this article from CI, has not been credited to its real author. Perhaps CI thinks that he can get away with stealing others material? Maybe its because he is not bright enough to come up with his own.

Well anyhow, after waiting for him to quote his sources, and seeing him post several times since pointing it out, I have decided to end his dishonesty and do it for him: -

http://onion.com/opinion/index.php?issue=4026&o=2

It [the article] is written by one "Tammy Kuntz", which either suggests that the article is a joke, or this person was blessed with not only rabid patriotic stupidity, but also with a truly hilarious name. Tammy Kuntz, classic. :D
Dude, it's the Onion, it's satire, CI said that already. They make all their stuff up, it's what they do. It's the only bourgeois news publication worth reading :D

[Vinny Rafarino]

Originally posted by [email protected] 20 2004, 09:27 PM
Raf, the girl's fingers are not that far apart.
Are you nuts? "How far apart" the girls fingers are have nothing to do with it.

The new layers you made here (represented by large circles) also have nothing to do with the faked part of the picture.

Your arrows don't mean anything either.

You have completely missed the faked parts.

Look again at the areas I circled in green. Then look at the distorted pixels where her hand was cloned out then look at the distorted line of the picture.

Look man, the more you try to defend this VERY BAD FAKE as an original the more I really am concerned about your state.


But you are right about one thing, it's not her thumb that has been removed, it's her forefinger.

[Vinny Rafarino]

Your post also made me scrutinize the photo even more fidelbrand.

You have missed one VERY LARGE flaw that proves the pic is a fake.

Take the book in the girl's hand and flip it over like Bush has it. Notice anything about the picture on our right?

It would be facing the completely opposite direction as the one in Bush's hands.

In other words, in the even that the "finger" is really not what it seems, the picture on Bush's book has been flipped upside down vertically rather that horizontally, which is what would happen if the book was flipped yet still faced towards us.

Once you actually see what I'm talking about you will laugh. The cat who made it forgot to mirror the image one he flipped it, which is what you would have to do.

Here's what I mean.

[Invader Zim]

Originally posted by [email protected] 20 2004, 10:38 PM
Dude, it's the Onion, it's satire, CI said that already. They make all their stuff up, it's what they do. It's the only bourgeois news publication worth reading :D
I know its from the onion, however I was not aware that they are a piss take, I will have to read more articals in that case. I was rather impressed with "Tammy Kuntz", after all.

Yep your right I did miss CI's statement that it was from the onion, so to him I apologise.

[Capitalist Imperial]

Originally posted by [email protected] 20 2004, 09:17 PM
As I have already pointed out, this article from CI, has not been credited to its real author. Perhaps CI thinks that he can get away with stealing others material? Maybe its because he is not bright enough to come up with his own.

Well anyhow, after waiting for him to quote his sources, and seeing him post several times since pointing it out, I have decided to end his dishonesty and do it for him: -

http://onion.com/opinion/index.php?issue=4026&o=2

It [the article] is written by one "Tammy Kuntz", which either suggests that the article is a joke, or this person was blessed with not only rabid patriotic stupidity, but also with a truly hilarious name. Tammy Kuntz, classic. :D
You idiot. :lol:

I already conceded this in a previous post on this very thread. Go back up and read, sir.

As I said, this was a cut/paste job from the onion. It was pure satire, and I thought that would be obvious due to it's pure audaciousness, however, to my pleasant surprise, a number of vehement leftist ate it up.

And lets not kid ourselves, the vast majority of my material is topical and/or in response to others, so it obviously my own. You can't scrutinize me for one cut/paste, especially considering the context of why I did it.


Yep your right I did miss CI's statement that it was from the onion, so to him I apologise.

...oops, you did concede that I did in fact state that it was the onion, "idiot" comment withdrawn

[Capitalist Imperial]

Originally posted by [email protected] 20 2004, 09:38 PM
Dude, it's the Onion, it's satire, CI said that already. They make all their stuff up, it's what they do. It's the only bourgeois news publication worth reading :D
What about "The Federalist"? ;)

[Fidel Castro]

You know, you may live in the most economically and militarily powerful nation this earth has ever seen, but.....

Have you ever considered that you are still a sad pathetic fucker who will waste away in an obscure little office, and die warm in his bed with his brain full of bull-shit notions about his nation and the world outside.

Have you ever considered that you are totally........un-interesting?

[Fidelbrand]

Originally posted by Comrade [email protected] 21 2004, 05:51 AM
Your post also made me scrutinize the photo even more fidelbrand.

You have missed one VERY LARGE flaw that proves the pic is a fake.

Take the book in the girl's hand and flip it over like Bush has it. Notice anything about the picture on our right?

It would be facing the completely opposite direction as the one in Bush's hands.

In other words, in the even that the "finger" is really not what it seems, the picture on Bush's book has been flipped upside down vertically rather that horizontally, which is what would happen if the book was flipped yet still faced towards us.

Once you actually see what I'm talking about you will laugh. The cat who made it forgot to mirror the image one he flipped it, which is what you would have to do.

Here's what I mean.
I see in here what you mean, Raf.

[Saint-Just]

Originally posted by Capitalist [email protected] 20 2004, 02:56 PM
I can't believe this apologist diatribe oozing with false causation and a desperate attempt to blame the US for what is clearly Africa's problem.

Oh, wait, actually, I can believe it. As everyone knows, personal responsibility is a foreign concept to communists.

The culture that the US propogates is irrelevant. Even if Africans are mimicing us, it is still their choice and their responsibility, isn't that self evident to any reasonable individual???

Oh, again, I forgot, responsibility and reason, hallmarks not often associated with the left.
It is not entirely the fault of the U.S. However, as you cited, everyone should take personal responsibility for everything forged by their actions. As such, Africans and Americans must take responsibility for the the present state in Africa. I would say that the U.S. as a nation that considers itself more advanced than Africa should be capable of presenting a far greater example of advanced civilisation.

You are the individual who is shirking responsibility. You have to take responsibility for the decadent sex and drug-use culture in your nation.

[Capitalist Imperial]

Originally posted by Fidel [email protected] 21 2004, 03:12 AM
You know, you may live in the most economically and militarily powerful nation this earth has ever seen, but.....

Have you ever considered that you are still a sad pathetic fucker who will waste away in an obscure little office, and die warm in his bed with his brain full of bull-shit notions about his nation and the world outside.

Have you ever considered that you are totally........un-interesting?
You continue to expose your own ignorance with profane and ignorant diatribes and summary judgements.

You don't even know me, or how interesting of a person I really am or what I do. Based on the law of averges, I would surmise that probably have a much more dynamic life than you.

I'm not toting my own horn about how "interesting" I am or not, I am just saying that you have absolutely no clue about it either way. I'm not surprised, though, summary judegement sans facts is a hallmark of commie thinking.

And be advised that ad-hominem attacks and emotional apeals do not sell to most people here, regardless of their ideology.

[DaCuBaN]

I'm not surprised, though, summary judegement sans facts is a hallmark of commie thinking

No, but you are very aware that if you stick your hand into a hornets nest, you'll probably get stung. The same applies to posting anti-communist sentiments on a 'leftist' message board - people will attack you personally.

Until they learn of course. :rolleyes:

[Capitalist Imperial]

Originally posted by Chairman [email protected] 21 2004, 03:43 PM
You are the individual who is shirking responsibility. You have to take responsibility for the decadent sex and drug-use culture in your nation.
Sex is an individual and personal issue. There is nothing wrong with how individuals view or practice such relations. Keep your repressive agenda out of our bedrooms.

Drugs, I somewhart agree. They should be legalized, privatized, and taxed. Thus eliminating the crime element associated with their use, such as the black market buying/selling of drugs and the street-level crime committed for the acquisition of them.

[T_SP]

Originally posted by Jacobo [email protected] 17 2004, 12:21 AM
:lol:

Quite a "kkkapitalist" thing to be bragging about.
Okay, was only trying to piss on his fireworks!! Didn't really have alot of time, plus it was likely I was pissed!!!

[Saint-Just]

Originally posted by Capitalist [email protected] 21 2004, 05:29 PM
Sex is an individual and personal issue. There is nothing wrong with how individuals view or practice such relations. Keep your repressive agenda out of our bedrooms.

Drugs, I somewhart agree. They should be legalized, privatized, and taxed. Thus eliminating the crime element associated with their use, such as the black market buying/selling of drugs and the street-level crime committed for the acquisition of them.
Your views are anarchic and I don't think much of your government is behind you on these issues.