Subversive Pessimist
15th July 2004, 18:50
Interesting. I didn't know they were bastards, to such an extent as this:
What about the poor under capitalism?
The other side of that question is: what about those who are not poor? [I will talk about the poor in a minute] What of them? Let us not forget that the "rich" are people too, and they also have the right to their life, their right to liberty, and their right to their property, and their right to pursue happiness.
Is the fact that one is poor, a justification to rob the rich?
That a man does not have riches and another does, is no excuse for the first to rob the latter -- neither is it a moral justification for the state to rob the first for the benefit of the latter.
Anarchism is not a form of capitalism; anarchism is a form of collectivism, where individual rights are subject to the rule of competing gangs.
Under such a system, any individual would beg to be placed in the relative safety of a dictatorship.
Those who advocate anarchism seek to replace a rule of law, with a rule of the jungle. The kind of 'corporations' they envision are not corporations like those under capitalism (which have no power to resort to force), but outlaw 'competing governments', i.e., gangs.
The theory of collectivism (in all its variants) holds that man is not an end to himself, but is only a tool to serve the ends of others.
What is the proper purpose of the death penalty?
Justice. It is not for retribution. It is not to discourage murder. Whether the death penalty prevents crime, or not, is irrelevant. The issue is not one of prevention, or revenge, but one of *justice*.
And I love this one:
Isn't capitalism a system of exploitation?
If "exploitation" means increasing the standard of living of the masses, tripling the life span of the average man, and bringing wealth and prosperity to all those who live under it, then capitalism is a system of "exploitation." If "exploitation" means making the masses slaves -- then I refer one to Nazi Germany, the Soviet Union and Communist China.
Don't capitalists exploit the masses by stealing their surplus as the Marxists alleged?
If capitalists "exploited" the masses by stealing their "surplus", as the Marxists allege, where was this "surplus" before capitalists existed? If not for capitalism, many of the masses you cry about would not exist -- capitalism did not create poverty it inherited it.
http://capitalism.org/
What about the poor under capitalism?
The other side of that question is: what about those who are not poor? [I will talk about the poor in a minute] What of them? Let us not forget that the "rich" are people too, and they also have the right to their life, their right to liberty, and their right to their property, and their right to pursue happiness.
Is the fact that one is poor, a justification to rob the rich?
That a man does not have riches and another does, is no excuse for the first to rob the latter -- neither is it a moral justification for the state to rob the first for the benefit of the latter.
Anarchism is not a form of capitalism; anarchism is a form of collectivism, where individual rights are subject to the rule of competing gangs.
Under such a system, any individual would beg to be placed in the relative safety of a dictatorship.
Those who advocate anarchism seek to replace a rule of law, with a rule of the jungle. The kind of 'corporations' they envision are not corporations like those under capitalism (which have no power to resort to force), but outlaw 'competing governments', i.e., gangs.
The theory of collectivism (in all its variants) holds that man is not an end to himself, but is only a tool to serve the ends of others.
What is the proper purpose of the death penalty?
Justice. It is not for retribution. It is not to discourage murder. Whether the death penalty prevents crime, or not, is irrelevant. The issue is not one of prevention, or revenge, but one of *justice*.
And I love this one:
Isn't capitalism a system of exploitation?
If "exploitation" means increasing the standard of living of the masses, tripling the life span of the average man, and bringing wealth and prosperity to all those who live under it, then capitalism is a system of "exploitation." If "exploitation" means making the masses slaves -- then I refer one to Nazi Germany, the Soviet Union and Communist China.
Don't capitalists exploit the masses by stealing their surplus as the Marxists alleged?
If capitalists "exploited" the masses by stealing their "surplus", as the Marxists allege, where was this "surplus" before capitalists existed? If not for capitalism, many of the masses you cry about would not exist -- capitalism did not create poverty it inherited it.
http://capitalism.org/