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h&s
15th July 2004, 08:45
The BNP is being investigated by the police for racism! (at long last!)

BNP activists admit to race crime(BBC)

British National Party activists have confessed to racially motivated crimes including an assault on an Asian in a BBC undercover documentary.
BNP member Steve Barkham told reporter Jason Gwynne how he kicked and punched a man during the 2001 Bradford riots.

The Secret Agent also shows the party's leader Nick Griffin condemning Islam as a "vicious wicked faith".

Mr Griffin accused the BBC of selective editing and said his full speech had discouraged attacks on communities.

BBC producers say the material will be handed over to the police and the Crown Prosecution Service.

Mr Gwynne spent six months infiltrating the BNP's West Yorkshire branch with the help of former local organiser Andy Sykes, who turned mole for anti-fascist group Searchlight.

In the documentary, footage recorded at a meeting in Keighley shows BNP leader Mr Griffin saying it was important to stand up and act for the party or "they (Muslims) will do for someone in your family".

"For saying that, I tell you, I will get seven years if I said that outside."

He calls Islam a "wicked, vicious faith" that "has expanded through a handful of cranky lunatics" and "is now sweeping country after country".

Another member, Stewart Williams, says he wants to "blow up" Bradford's mosques with a rocket launcher.

BNP council candidate Dave Midgley is shown saying he squirted dog faeces through the letterbox of an Asian takeaway.

In the film, Mr Barkham says he beat an Asian man during the Bradford riots.

But, he says, he was not prosecuted as his victim was unable to identify him from police photographs.

Expulsion call

A West Yorkshire Police spokeswoman said: "We haven't yet seen the programme, we have spoken to the programme makers and will be investigating the claims made to identify what, if any, offences may have taken place.

"We ask anyone with further information about any of the alleged crimes to contact us."

Mr Griffin later said Mr Midgley and Mr Barkham would be expelled from the BNP.

And Mr Williams would face an internal disciplinary tribunal in connection with his comments, he added.

Mr Griffin accused the programme makers of selectively editing a speech he delivered in the film and challenged the authorities to prosecute him.

"It's still not illegal to criticise Islam", he said.

"If Mr Blunkett wants to put me on a show trial about whether we're entitled to warn about the dangers of Islam, I will be absolutely delighted."

Any jury would see the full speech, in which he states that the BNP is not targeting individuals or communities, he added.

The BBC was failing in its charter terms to represent the views of BNP supporters who now represented 5% of the electorate, claimed Mr Griffin.



Griffin's response was racist as well;

If Mr Blunkett wants to put me on a show trial about whether we're entitled to warn about the dangers of Islam, I will be absolutely delighted


Thats not all, they are also being investigated for their election leaflets (that I complained about);

BNP leaflet under investigation[U](BBC)

Claims that a BNP leaflet contained inflammatory statements which could incite racial hatred are being investigated by police.
The Race Equality Council (REC) for Gloucestershire has complained about the party's European election leaflet.

Headed "Asylum is making Britain explode", it was delivered to 30m houses before the European elections.

The BNP denies it was racist and that it is important that all political parties can air their views.

The leaflet stated that the "government is planning to build five giant new cities, each the size of Birmingham, over the next 30 years, to house over five million new immigrants".

'No debate'

It also said that "around two million illegal immigrants and asylum seekers" were pushing the benefits system and health service "to breaking point".

The Race Equality Council claims this breaches the 1986 Public Order Act.

Dr Phillip Edwards, a spokesman for the BNP, said: "There is a problem in this democracy if we are not allowed to open the debate without being thrown into jail.

"But in fact the leaflet does not carry anything about race - it is about immigration and asylum."

A spokeswoman for Gloucestershire police has confirmed the complaint is "under investigation"



Hopefully they will get what they deserve before they can stand in another election.

RedAnarchist
15th July 2004, 12:47
bump

h&s
15th July 2004, 13:03
Meaning?

UnionofSovietSocialistRepublics
15th July 2004, 14:14
Originally posted by [email protected] 15 2004, 12:47 PM
bump
Doesnt that mean you believe he is just posting that to "bump" up his post count?:S

I think its very relevant, im glad that this has finally taken place, the BNP are a far right group who have gained far too much popularity in the UK to be healthy. It worries me so many individuals agree with their views enough to go and vote for them. I think a major factor behind this is that tabloid papers have made such a huge deal out of immigrants "stealing our jobs" & "living off of our system whilst contributing nothing to it" its something people feel strongly about, and the BNP would make a effort to actually stop these illegal immigrants entering the uk, where as most parties have at least some sympathy for these people and are often inclined to let them enter the country.

ÑóẊîöʼn
15th July 2004, 14:24
This good news, but not good enough. The BNP should be classed as a hate group and barred from competing in the elections.

I would really like to bash the tabloid editor's heads in, why the fuck do they play on the reactionary fears of people?

T_SP
15th July 2004, 19:17
I'll be watching tonight at 9 BBC1, fighting these Racsists is something close to my heart, especially as our paper stall and one of our members has been attacked by these organised thugs.

The splinter group the WNP ( White national party) are also very dangerous and I have a felling we have a few members in Lincoln and there is a sizeable base in Hull. here is there web-site WNP web site (http://www.white.org.uk/)


They are sicker than the BNP, just check out there 'Zine. They really are just organsied Rascist, Fascist thugs and the BNP claim they have nothing to do with them, yeah right, like Hitler had nothing to do with killing innocent jews! Oh yeah but Nick Griffin said that didn't happen, how silly of me :angry: Bastard!!!!

IPkurd
15th July 2004, 23:13
so who watch the documentory, i quote from the leader of the BNP
"by rape islam is spreading in western countires" something like that anyway.....i think this is kinda good news for us because the consevative were bashed by the BNP and vice verser, and also showed us "reds" as anti BNP (which of course we are) so lefty parties would probably gain from this, i sense that more non whites will also vote in the general elections aswell to keep these pukes out of reach from power

Pedro Alonso Lopez
15th July 2004, 23:24
It was a good docu actually, realy showed the true colours of the BNP. It should have a considerable effect on voters I believe, the Asian community should find it disgusting that they got so many votes and will hopefully acy on it.

I liked the 'I hope the red scum dont attack us' bit. Great stuff.

Also one of them mentions they believe democracy is a joke which should alert any sensible human being about the fascist intentions of these fucks.

CubanFox
16th July 2004, 01:09
Before the BNP gets investigated, the British police need to be. Saw a good doco called The Secret Policemen a few months ago, a journalist went undercover and pretended to be a cop; they gave full details and photographs of numerous racists he worked with.

It was pathetic to watch how fascist the police force is, at least in Britain.

refuse_resist
16th July 2004, 04:27
It was pathetic to watch how fascist the police force is, at least in Britain.

They're like that here in the states too. The smalltown ones are the worst

:P

T_SP
16th July 2004, 05:20
I went at looked at the 'Redwatch' site the BNP blokes mentioned. They got alot of names on their, not mine though!! Full of shit too, says were lying middle class kids with a conscience

BOZG
16th July 2004, 06:18
Originally posted by [email protected] 16 2004, 06:20 AM
I went at looked at the 'Redwatch' site the BNP blokes mentioned. They got alot of names on their, not mine though!! Full of shit too, says were lying middle class kids with a conscience
There's a lot of Northern Youth comrades on it under Ulster Reds.

monkeydust
16th July 2004, 20:47
If anything, the documentary highlighted the low intellectual calibre of the British right-wing movement. Certain quotes were particularly revealing in this aspect:

"What do you think about democracy?"- "It's a load of bollocks innit"

"Do you have a licence for your gun?"- "don't need a licence to shoot a paki"

"I beat up this paki, because it's what he asked for".

Hopefully this documentary will damage the BNP's credibility beyond repair, unfortunately, a number of people (at least some I know) support the BNP's cause in full knowledge of their "true colours".

We'll have to wait and see, i guess.

T_SP
16th July 2004, 21:06
Did you see the interview with Nick Griffin on BBC2 afterwards? He just denied all knowledge and said we've expelled all of them, yeah right! Then went on to condemn Islam some more! What a WANKER!! He needs fucking locking up along with the rest of the brain dead members! And the key needs melting down and turning into some sort of torture device to poke them with the rest of there living days!!





DFuck the spekling I'm pissed!

Misodoctakleidist
17th July 2004, 10:48
Barclays have frozen their bank account, this means they won't be able to keep proper accounts and so won't be able to run in elections.

Never have I been so proud to bank with Barclays!

Invader Zim
17th July 2004, 11:02
I watched the documentory, I have to confess in absolute glee! I of course was well aware of what the BNP are and always have been, a group of racist thugs, but its nice to see your views confirmed, this firm filmed evidence!

DOWN WITH THE BNP!

IPkurd
17th July 2004, 16:08
also does anyone know that theres is a half turkish member of the BNP? how stupid is that, the guys name is lawrence rustem and just yesterday i think was elected into a London seat, of dagenham.... dumb ass

h&s
20th July 2004, 16:00
also does anyone know that theres is a half turkish member of the BNP? how stupid is that, the guys name is lawrence rustem and just yesterday i think was elected into a London seat, of dagenham.... dumb ass
Yeah, he was one of the founders! They also base a lot of their "philosophy" on an Italian living in this country!
BTW, did you see griffin's interview on channel 4 on thursday? Snow gave him a grilling!

Oh yeah, on the Islamophobia thing, I can't wait for the law banning it - my two least favorite people -Griffin, and Daily Mail columnist Peter Hitchens- will be able to face charges on it! Two birds with one stone!

T_SP
20th July 2004, 18:18
Originally posted by hammer&[email protected] 20 2004, 05:00 PM
Yeah, he was one of the founders! They also base a lot of their "philosophy" on an Italian living in this country!
BTW, did you see griffin's interview on channel 4 on thursday? Snow gave him a grilling!

Oh yeah, on the Islamophobia thing, I can't wait for the law banning it - my two least favorite people -Griffin, and Daily Mail columnist Peter Hitchens- will be able to face charges on it! Two birds with one stone!
Also Kilroy-Silk with his orange leather look skin, :D

I watched the documentory, I have to confess in absolute glee! I of course was well aware of what the BNP are and always have been, a group of racist thugs, but its nice to see your views confirmed, this firm filmed evidence!

DOWN WITH THE BNP!
I too knew of there ways, and , yes it is nice to see them exposed at last!


also does anyone know that theres is a half turkish member of the BNP?
I was aware of this, in the article I posted here ( In Politics forum) he is mentioned in it, it should only be a few threads back.

As for there bank accounts being frozen, YEAH!!!!!! At last justice! I think I might join Barclays! At last the Capitalists are doin something!!

IPkurd
21st July 2004, 00:36
Yeah, he was one of the founders! They also base a lot of their "philosophy" on an Italian living in this country!
BTW, did you see griffin's interview on channel 4 on thursday? Snow gave him a grilling!

sure did, that jhn snow and that other guy doing newsnight (pacsmen i think) are great!

MiniOswald
21st July 2004, 10:17
anyone fancy a trip to Wrexham and bradford in a good ole nazi bashing rampage?

IPkurd
21st July 2004, 11:43
anyone fancy a trip to Wrexham and bradford in a good ole nazi bashing rampage?

Nah but i waiting for there to be tension in London where i live then i'll be slapin them all up, nazis are weak anyway