View Full Version : Extreme right winger Le Pen beats Jospin
Che Vive
21st April 2002, 19:09
I just heard that Le Pen the extreme right winger knocked the socialist Jospin out.
im hoping Chirac will win this one or its gonna be terrible!
deimos
21st April 2002, 19:34
what?Are you sure?
Che Vive
21st April 2002, 19:38
yep...i heard it on both al-jazeera and CNN
deimos
21st April 2002, 19:44
ohh god!These french!What happened to jospin?And whats with this female trotskyst?
Guest1
21st April 2002, 19:55
hold on, chirac is right wing too
Derar
21st April 2002, 20:04
atleast shirac is a moderate right-winger !
Kez
21st April 2002, 22:20
CHiraq is RIght wing, Le **** is Extreme Right wing,
and all the "socialists" who didnt vote are ****s
comrade kamo
NExt Time comrades
Maaja
22nd April 2002, 05:29
Le Pen is an extereme right-winged person, he is a nationalist, almost a racist. He is against all immigrants in France... I hope he won't win...
ArgueEverything
22nd April 2002, 08:25
its true...the left has been totally demolished in france. the spectre of neo-fascism is haunting social democratic europe.
a sign of hope, though: the far left has also had varying degrees of success. the trotskyist candidates got some 10% of the vote, i read somewhere.
Revolution Hero
22nd April 2002, 09:35
Moderate right winger , better than the extreme one.
FUCK FASCISM!
Anyway, the population of France seems not to be interested in politics much. All the stupid voters , who voted only for the reason they like someone , because of a good looking face or nice talking have voted for MF right wingers. Have fun with them, then....
Maaja
22nd April 2002, 10:10
It's definitely a great shame to France that le Pen even got to the final.... And French have to choose between right-winger and extreme right-winger. Well, I would choose Chirac of course although he is not the best candidat either.
And I still remember how to French critizised Shröder...
revolutionary
22nd April 2002, 11:54
its always the same, the socialists and commies are so busy fighting each other they let the nationalists in! for fucks sake they should have agreed that anything is better that fascism and stoped fighting each other, they only have them selves to blame!
Dan Majerle
22nd April 2002, 13:31
Revolutoinary that is so true. I mean it emanates even before the Soviet-Sino split. Imagine if they were united. That would have had world repercussions.
vox
22nd April 2002, 16:56
Le Pen is the founder of the National Front. He called the Holocaust a "detail of history." There is little chance that he'll win, but hopefully this will motivate the Left in France, and througout Europe, to get their act together.
vox
Fires of History
22nd April 2002, 18:05
Vox,
Good point, and I think they will. I read today that there are protests about Le Pen's minor victory. Hopefully this will be a wake-up call to those that would have otherwise not been actively involved.
Agreed though, with everyone here, something has definitely gone awry with the Fifth Republic...
oconner
22nd April 2002, 18:41
oh nooo!!!!!
Anyone want to start a reveloution in France?
BOZG
22nd April 2002, 20:32
From what I've read, Chirac is expected to win the final round and that Le Pen was only really voted for to show Chirac that there is discontent with him and that he'll have to change things.
guerrillaradio
22nd April 2002, 20:56
BoZG - Yeah, the French people are said to vote in the first round with their hearts, and the second round with their heads. Basically, they'll vote for someone minor in the first round just to shock the major players into action. It appears that disillusioned moderate righties turned to Le Penn instead of Chirac.
However, there is a deeper reason for Le Penn's new found popularity. Recently in France, (allegedly) pro-Palestine supporters have attacked Jewish homes and communities. Of course, Le Penn et al blamed this on the immigrants from Arab Africa. This led to him getting considerable support from, believe it or not, French Jews. It appears that Le Penn is little more than a populist. Fuck him.
Sennover
22nd April 2002, 21:29
Le Pen has no chance of winning now. All the left wing voters have realised their mistake by not voting and will make shure they'll do it on May 5th, and alll the left parties are for Chirac "The lesser of two evils".
So the 30% non voter will shurely drop after that.
And with Jospin quiting, we may also see a reorganisation of the Socialists and left parties in general, wich could be a good thing for the legislativ elections this summer. New face, new ideas, new hope.
ALLEZ LE PSF !
F HAINE CONTRE LE PEN !!!!!!!
[PS, check my sig for a a final conclusion about the presidentials]
(Edited by Sennover at 10:31 pm on April 22, 2002)
GuerillaTactics
22nd April 2002, 21:42
Fuck Le Pen......i was shocked to here that Jospin was calling his political carrier quits........ god damnit.....today is a sad day
Gavin
22nd April 2002, 22:05
Since Le Pen got about 17% of the vote, in the second round this might stay more or less the same, but the Chirac vote will be much higher because EVERYBODY ELSE will vote for him. Some are saying he may get up to 80%.
But it is a shame the left seems to have collapsed completely. Surely there are millions of left-wing people in France. They have no candidate to choose that supports their view at all.
It is a worrying development, showing the rise of the far-right accross europe. Austria has a coalition coalition government including the fascist "freedom party". That is why the EU has imposed sanctions on Austria. The far-right have been doing well in the netherlands, and are predicted to do well in germany in september. Even the BNP in britain is gaining popularity in some areas.
Reuben
22nd April 2002, 22:35
i would be really amazed if french jews voted for la pen. the guy used to sell nazi meorabilia and is to my knowledge a jew hater.
It shows how dangerous it is to start bombing synagogues etc. the ****s who did this should bestrung up.
I think Le **** has a particular hate for arabs and africans as he fought to protect french colonial assets in north africa.
He has openly specified NORTH AFRICAN immigration. racist fuck
Nateddi
22nd April 2002, 22:38
Quote: from Maaja on 5:29 am on April 22, 2002
almost a racist
He considers the holocaust a specle in history. He blames the problems of france on immigration. He is the leader of the National Front Party.
komsomol
23rd April 2002, 17:10
i think chirac got 20% of the vote while le pen got 18% and jospin 16%.
chupacabra
23rd April 2002, 19:26
Which might tell you that maybe underneath the surface a good majority of the French feel this way. A French friend of mine told me that some of the old people strongly feel that France should be for the French. He also told me that the Corsicans bomb all the Parisian summer homes in Corsica. Europe has become a melting pot of all cultures and it would be a shame if people like Le Pen would be elected.
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