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Adamore
12th July 2004, 06:15
u know if u look back on the 9/11 attacks binladen never clamed resopnsibility he simply condoned them but some how he got blamed in all the "confusion"
do ne of u guys rember ne thing about bin ladin saying he had the attacks carried out??????? :ph34r:

Comrade BNS
12th July 2004, 09:29
I was going to reply formally, but then I read your signature....and re-read your post. I don't think I need to say anymore

Comrade BNS

h&s
12th July 2004, 09:58
Well, the CIA were pretty keen to show any scrap of evidence that it was Bin Laden, and the U$ had been planning to attack Afghanistan before 9/11, but there is no doubt that Bin Laden did it.
There was a video found in Afghanistan of Bin Laden talking with friends about the attack and he said how everyone in the room at the time with him cheered when they saw the first plane go in, and he said "wait, there is more to come." He also talked about how shocked he was (as someone with building expierince) when he saw the towers collapse, as he never expected that.

Guerrilla22
12th July 2004, 14:25
The US government came up with a video tape of Bin Laden in 2002, on the audio of the tape Bin Laden takes responsibility for the attacks. The only problem was a lot of people believe that the tape had been dubjected to creative editing by the US government.

I would say that there was a 99% chance that al-Qaeda was behind the September 11th attacks, what I refuse to believe is that there was some relationship between al-Qaeda and Saddam.

Kobbot 401
12th July 2004, 18:41
Just wanted to point this out, Bin Laden was from Sudia Arabia not Afganistan or Iraq, so why the hell havent we bombed them yet for giving birth to such an evil man?

Adamore
12th July 2004, 18:54
yeah thert is no link between saddam and bin laden as far as i know but the Us says other wise just to justify the war just like iraq having WMD's but were is the evidense :ph34r: i know were it is


its nowere because it dosent exist!!!!!!!! :ph34r:

Kobbot 401
12th July 2004, 19:05
The only logical reson Bush'y had for going to war is that he wanted to boost his PR. That and that he wanted to have a war like his daddy had dureing his term in office.

T_SP
12th July 2004, 19:18
Why aren't they searching for him anymore? You telling me they can't find a man on dialysis??

Adamore
12th July 2004, 19:34
really we got badass satilites and we cant find a man on dialysis there is sumthin wrong w/ this picture :ph34r:

T_SP
12th July 2004, 20:01
The fact that Bin Laden uses no electronic gadgets escapes you adamore, you could have the 'baddest' statilite in the world and not track him. The point was, it seems as if the U$ has given up looking for him all together and yet he was allegedly the reason the whole war on Iraq started, it seems in the confusion of destroying Iraq with there freedom and Democracy the U$ government has forgoten about 9/11.

Pawn Power
12th July 2004, 21:38
Originally posted by Kobbot [email protected] 12 2004, 06:41 PM
Just wanted to point this out, Bin Laden was from Sudia Arabia not Afganistan or Iraq, so why the hell havent we bombed them yet for giving birth to such an evil man?
that is the most fucking stupid thing i have ever heard

Abajo con el imperialismo
13th July 2004, 02:18
I personally think it was cia's plan to do the 911 attacks then blame it on someone to start a war as they did in the spanish american war. like che said you cant trust imperialism. he said the truth too... the media has a big place in this since they poison the minds of citizens that are taken easily by the desire of revenge and patriotism.

(*
13th July 2004, 02:21
I don't believe the American government actually did it, but I do believe they let it happen.

Cheech06
13th July 2004, 03:17
binladen...his name should be, been hiden.

refuse_resist
13th July 2004, 03:45
Originally posted by Kobbot [email protected] 12 2004, 06:41 PM
Just wanted to point this out, Bin Laden was from Sudia Arabia not Afganistan or Iraq, so why the hell havent we bombed them yet for giving birth to such an evil man?
WTF?

Guerrilla22
13th July 2004, 04:10
Originally posted by Abajo con el [email protected] 13 2004, 02:18 AM
I personally think it was cia's plan to do the 911 attacks then blame it on someone to start a war as they did in the spanish american war. like che said you cant trust imperialism. he said the truth too... the media has a big place in this since they poison the minds of citizens that are taken easily by the desire of revenge and patriotism.
come on,
That's one of the stupidest conspiracy theories ever. The US never gave a fuck about Bin Laden and the Taliban, untill after the Sept. 11th attacks.

h&s
14th July 2004, 13:34
I personally think it was cia's plan to do the 911 attacks then blame it on someone to start a war as they did in the spanish american war
Its not completely absurd. The project for the new American century (a bush administration thing) wrote that "a Pearl Harbour like event would be needed to persuade the public of the need for this war."
So they didn't do it themselves, but I rekon they certainly let it happen.

T_SP
14th July 2004, 20:43
Originally posted by [email protected] 13 2004, 05:10 AM
come on,
That's one of the stupidest conspiracy theories ever. The US never gave a fuck about Bin Laden and the Taliban, untill after the Sept. 11th attacks.
No, your right! The Bushses didn't have a relationship with BL before 9/11 did they!!!!!!
Get real! :huh:

Subversive Pessimist
14th July 2004, 20:53
7 of the 19 so-called hijackers have been found alive.

People who have visited bin Laden says he didn't know what happened around the world. He read a newspaper and he was shocked on how much was changed in the world.

Also, all of the hijackers were moderate, or had fear of flying.

Actually, it was the US who used the name "Al Qaeda" first. As far as I know, there have not been one terrorist suspect that has claimed they are working in a group called Al Qaeda. The closest they've come was: "I'm a member of what you call Al Qaeda"

And don't forget the story about the five israelis. I'll give you a link if you're interested.

The Taliban said that they wanted proof that bin laden and the taliban was behind 9/11, but the US refused. When they started bombing the country, the taliban wanted to hand osama over to a third country, but the US refused.

Also, don't forget that they did everything to avoid an investigation on osama, and al qaeda, and called those who said al qaeda was a serious threat morons etc.

I don't know what happened that day. I'm not saying the Bush administration did it, but they are certainly not innocent. That's for sure.

SittingBull47
14th July 2004, 21:04
Originally posted by [email protected] 12 2004, 07:34 PM
really we got badass satilites and we cant find a man on dialysis there is sumthin wrong w/ this picture :ph34r:
hell. there was a senator's plane that was thought to be a terrorist-manned aircraft and the government was freaking out because they couldn't handle it. If the aircraft wanted to, it could have crashed into any building in DC. (this was during the whole Reagan funeral thing) here's a link I looked up quick in case you didn't hear about it. (ugh. definitely not the link I wanted)
http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/artic...3-2004Jun9.html (http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/articles/A28863-2004Jun9.html)

never mind locating a man in foreign caves, the U$ can't even keep track of a plane flying over the nation's capitol.

Abajo con el imperialismo
15th July 2004, 01:40
remember Al qaida was *funded* *Trained* and *Equiped* by the cia to fight against the russian army they might still be loyal to the cia no one really knows exept ofcourse the cia, the 911 attacks gave bush the power he needed to start a war with afganistan and iraq he could have ordered those attacks we know how power hungry is bush. also look at this (is in spanish though) http://www.jrebelde.cu/2004/julio-septiemb...ul-13/golpe.htm (http://www.jrebelde.cu/2004/julio-septiembre/jul-13/golpe.htm)

Guerrilla22
15th July 2004, 05:43
Yes and Bin Laden and his followers were also funded, euipped and trained even more so by Iran, at any rate, it doesn't matter because al-Qaeda has long since been forgotten by the Bush administration, Bush was hell bent on attacking Iraq from day one.

pedro san pedro
18th July 2004, 03:30
al quaeda itself was not funded by the cia - the taliban was to fight the soviets. bin laden was heavily involved with this, especially with finding funds for the taliban fighters.

the has never been any link shown between saddam hussien and al quaeda - they have fundemental differences in their beliefs. both are anti-american but are anti-each other aswell.
the bush administartion has now publically come out and admitted that there is no link between the two.

no way did the cia carry out the attacks - although they may have had pior knowledge. every conflict that the usa has committed ground troops to -excpect desert storm - has had an attack on american forces before hand. this has gotten the american public behind the war effort - eg pearl harbour. everyone of these has then been shown to have been know about by the american intelligence community before they happened. micheal robotham wrote a really good essay on this that i cant be bothered looking for.

Skeptic
18th July 2004, 03:54
The U.S. Government came up with tapes which proported to have Osama Bin Ladin taking credit for the Sept. 11th, 2001 attacks, but European (Swedish) intelligence experts declared the tapes were crude cut and paste forgeries.

When journalists interview Osama Bin Ladin face to face, he said that he had no involvement in the attacks and that his religion tells him that killing innocent civilians is not an appreciable act.

Adamore, there has been much written about possible U.S. government conspricacy behind the attacks on Manhattan and the Pentagon. Here is a transcript which I typed up from a radio broadcast describing Fascist elements within the U.S. government being behind the attacks on 911. --Skeptic

Today on ‘Guns and Butter’ we are broadcasting ‘9-11: False Flag Operation,’ from ‘Taking Aim’ a public affairs program weekly on Pacifica’s WBAI in New York. ‘Taking Aim’ is produced by Mia Schone and Ralph Schoenman. Mia Schone is an activist involved in political, community and labor issues, she work closely with Casa Nicaragua and Casa El Salvador during the struggles in Central America. Mia Schoen was a member of an International steering committee, organizing campaigns against exploitation and in defense of workers rights. She has been a documentary filmmaker and was a newscaster and reporter at KPFA in Los Angeles. Ralph Schoenman was the Secretary General of International Tribunal of U.S. War Crimes in Indo-China. He spent seven months in Bolivia in 1967 and was imprisoned there after the death of Che Guevara. Ralph Schoenman worked with Malcolm X in the Anti-Imperialist struggles in Eastern, Central and Southern Africa. He has lectured widely on the assassinations of John F. Kennedy, Robert F. Kennedy, Malcolm X and Dr. Martin Luther King, Jr. Ralph Schoenman is the author of ‘The Hidden History of Zionism,’ ‘Iraq and Kuwait, A History Suppressed’ and co-author of ‘Death and Pillage in the Congo—A Study of Western Rule.’ Mia Schoen and Ralph Schoenman were directors of the ‘Committee in Defense of the Lebanese and Palestinian Peoples,’ during the Israeli invasion of Lebanon in 1982 and were present at the Shabra and Shatilla refugee camps during the massacres. They were directors of the ‘Palestine Campaign,’ which at the time of the first Intifada, called for an end to all aid to Apartheid Israel and for a democratic, secular Palestine.

‘9-11 False Flag Operation,’ was originally broadcast on ‘Taking Aim,’ on September 10th , 2002, On Pacifica’s WBAI, in New York.

Mia Schone: “This is ‘Taking Aim,’ with Ralph Schoenman and Mia Schone.

In the immediate aftermath of the attack on the World Trade Center and the Pentagon, authorities were already sounding the alarm, that a terrorist network was involved and they specified Osama Bin Laden and Islamic fundamentalists in the Al-Queda network. The authorities did not disclose, however, that this very network had been established by the Central Intelligence Agency and that indeed, Osama Bin Laden and his associate Gulbadeen Hecnect Yar, had received six billion dollars from the U.S. intelligence agencies, specifically to create a terrorist network, not merely in Afghanistan but in Pakistan and beyond. Indeed, in Uzbekistan, and in Tajikistan, and the surrounding area. The authorities were quick to point the finger at a ‘demonic figure,’ but if we look carefully at the press then and in the year since, we see that, in fact, the U.S. government, it’s intelligence agencies and it’s spokes persons were not telling us the truth. 9-11 is a false flag operation, an intelligence term, signifying that the blame is placed elsewhere, to cover up U.S. government responsibility. Our program today, ‘9-11 False Flag Operation.’

Ralph Schoenman: “Mia, the very category of a false flag operation is central to the understanding of the way in which American Capitalism and our ruling class, has conducted its politics on an Imperial and international scale. Every major war in the history of our country has been arranged with pretexts. The history of U.S. imperialism since the mid nineteenth century in replete with examples from the war against Spain and the seizure of Cuba, from the war to obtain the Philippines, from the First World War, from the Viet Nam War, from the Korean War, the Gulf War, all of these events are based upon arranged incidents. Because a generated policy that reflects decades of preparation for the seizure of resources, for the domination of countries that needed to be subjugated, required acquiescence in the American public. False flag operations, whether it is the Gulf of Tokin resolution based upon a completely contrived attack upon the United States, which never occurred, whether it’s the sinking of the (battleship) Maine, which has long been established as a blowing up of the very ship by the United States military to create the pre-text for war. Whether it is ‘Operation Northwoods’ in 1962, which Mia is going to discuss in some detail, which put on the table the plans to impute the Cuban revolution attacks upon the United States, including the shooting down of airplanes, and the potential shooting down of the rocket of John Glenn, these were pretexts, these were false flag operations. Today in the New York Times, the lead story by Richard Bernstein, on today’s date, ‘On Paths to U.S. Skies, Plot Leader Met Bin Laden.’ It is a very long and detailed article, the burden of which is to state: “that on November 29th, 1999, the thirty one year old architectural student, in Germany, Mohamed Atta, unknown to the world, but determined to strike an unforgettable blow, met Bin Laden.” The article proceeds to declare that Mohamed Atta was the boss of the operation. And that the revelation establishes that he met Osama Bin Laden, and consequently we have here, the entire apparatus for the events of 9-11. It is a fairy tale. It is a fiction. It is a contrivance. It is a fabrication of the real role Mohamed Atta and the others who were accused of being hijackers, people who were trained at U.S. military intelligence instillations, who have the hands of U.S. intelligence all over them.

MS: “In this article in the New York Times, by Richard Bernstein, “On the Paths to U.S. Skies, Plot Leader Met Bin Laden,” Richard Bernstein states: Quote: “The general conclusion that can be drawn in all of this, is that the attacks last year were a deadly outgrowth of a series of terrorist efforts that began with the truck bombing of the World Trade Center in 1993.” Again, another false flag operation. But before we go into 1993, as Ralph was mentioning, let’s look at a very important false flag operation, ‘Operation Northwoods’ 1962. When the Joint Chiefs of Staff, headed by Linemen Lebinser, decided that the best way for the U.S. to attack Cuba was to make it seem that Cuba was attacking the United States. They prepared ‘Operation Northwoods’ and it was exposed recently in the documents that are in the National Archives and were release as a result of the campaign to have the documents related to the assassination of President John F. Kennedy, come to the fore. It was written about by James Banford, an ABC producer, a news producer for Peter Jennings, ‘World News Tonight, in a book called ‘Body of Secrets,’ which we have discussed over and again on ‘Taking Aim.’ In the documents for ‘Operation Northwoods’ some of the proposals, Quote: “We could blow up a U.S. ship in Guantanamo Bay and blame Cuba.” And it goes on, Quote: “Causality lists in U.S. newspapers would cause a helpful wave of national indignation.” End Quote. Such as Ralph was referring to with the sinking of the Maine, in a Havana harbor, as a precursor for the Spanish American War.

RS: “The invasion and capture of Cuba, and of the Philippines.

MS: “And led by the Hearst Newspapers. Drumming up the ‘Remember the Maine, remember the Maine’ in much the same way as newspapers throughout the world are talking about the invasion of Iraq, terrorist operations throughout the world. So the Joint Chiefs of Staff, remember, this was all of the Joint Chiefs, approved of these operations for ‘Operation Northwoods.’ Another of the proposals, quote: “We could develop a Communist Cuban terror campaign in the Miami area and other Florida cities and even in Washington D.C.” Now remember the terror campaign, terror campaign, that is what they are talking about, the frame of reference, to incite the American public. Make it seem as if there is a definite attack on all the people here. Make up Patriotism and everything in order to invade Cuba.

RS: “By the way Mia, I just want to mention that ‘Operation Northwoods’ called for the crashing of aircraft into cities in the United States. Again this is to be an American military operation disguised as an attack from Cuba. And they also state for respect to John Glenn, astronaut, and his rocket, “if the rocket were to crash,” and this is not just idle speculative talk, when the National Security Council and the Joint Chiefs of Staff, each member of whom signed off on this document, talk about the rocket of John Glenn, astronaut, blowing up, they are not talking about that possibility. They are talking about an operation, they would impute to Cuba and it states implicitly, we will blame it on the Cubans, and we will have the opportunity to invade Cuba. This is the scenario of ‘Operation Northwoods’ in the book ‘Body of Secrets,’ published by James Banford, it is detailed with original documents, signed off by every member of the Joint Chiefs of Staff. It is the paradigm. ‘Operation Northwoods’ occurs during the period of the Cold War. Without a Soviet Union, the category of terror was contrived. Instead of a Soviet Union, a super power, as an adversary of American Imperialism, they contrived the alternative scarecrow, for generating trillions of dollars for the Pentagon and for the military budget, the category of terror. Groups of terror, all over the world, all of them, by the way, without exception, groups that were funded the Central Intelligence Agency, and put into place as vehicles for attacking governments and societies that they wanted to undermine.

MS: “So now we go up to 1993 and a bombing of the World Trade Center. Much is made in this New York Times article today about it. It says in this investigation that has been taking place since September 11th, Quote: “In the year since September 11th, investigators have poured over cell phone records, flight manifests, financial receipts, and interviews with captured Al-Queda members to develop a richer picture particularly how the plot came together overseas. As I mentioned again, the very next sentence is, “that the general conclusion that is draw is that the attacks last year were the deadly outgrowth of the series of terrorist effects that began with truck bombing of the World Trade Center in 1993.

RS: “Indeed Mia, in the article in today’s New York Times, by Richard Bernstein, “Mohamed Atta who is called the boss, and thereby the architect for the attack of 9-11, 2001, is stated to have been in liaison with the Ramsey Usef and the perpetrators of the World Trade Center bombing of 1993. Which is stated to be the event, preparing for 9-11. What is particularly important about this because they have now, in this article that they have leaked and planted on the day before the anniversary of September 11th. For all of the elaboration of this article, the entire gravamen of this piece is to say that in 1999 Mohamed Atta had an audience with Osama Bin Laden at a social function. They have nothing on what was discussed, they have nothing about any character of the meeting, whether he passed through in thirty seconds, all they are able to establish is that, if it is true at all, is that he met Osama Bin Laden in 1999. And from there they leap to the view that thereby Atta is the boss of the operation. And they center this on his relationship to the bombing of the World Trade Center in 1993. I wrote an article at that time as to what was the nature of the operation. Who are the real terrorists, with the respect to the events of the World Trade Center bombing in 1993? Emhad Ali Salem was an Egyptian intelligence agent, and a long standing operative of the Federal Bureau of Investigation. He conceived of the plan for the bombing of the World Trade Center. He recruited people to it. He wore a wire while discussing the operation. He made transcripts of each meeting, which were then disposed in the offices of the Federal Bureau of Investigation. He consulted with the FBI throughout this provocation, because it was a provocation. He went to the mosque of the blind Egyptian cleric, who himself had been involved in a CIA operation called ‘Operation Cyclone’ in Egypt and was conveniently in New Jersey at this time. And now Emad Ali Salem, starts to approach young men, and propose to them a series of operations including the potential bombing of a major site which turns out to be the World Trade Center. For a period of six months the Federal Bureau of Investigation in New York, has fifty boxes of documentation of the plans that was advanced by their own agent. The proposal that was made, the funds that were supplied, the materials that were provided, the wire transcript of the meetings and discussions about the planned bombing in 1993, at the time Newspapers made much of the fact that the young driver of the Ryder rental van, that was presumably carrying explosives to the World Trade Center, went back to the rental agency to ask for a refund. And they made fun of this young man, who had quite obviously been induced to rent the van any knowledge of the intent.

But what we have learned and what we have documented and what the New York Times and the Los Angeles Times, and other established papers confirmed was that the person who secured the van and who made those operations, and who organized the apartment where those meetings were set up by Emad Ali Salem, took place was none other than Guzi Hadas, a well known MOSSAD operative. The hand of the FBI and the MOSSAD is all over the bombing events of the World Trade Center of 1993, and as Ralph Blumenthal wrote in the New York Times at the time, Emad Ali Salem himself, when he was called to account for this said, “well I tried to tell the FBI what we should give them was fake explosives, fake explosives, but I was upset when they didn’t listen to me.” Ralph Blumenthal in the New York Times, quotes Emad Ali Salem as claiming that he engaged in this operation, he set it up, he prepared it, for the FBI, but he intended, he said, that they should give fake explosives not real explosives and he was annoyed that the FBI didn’t approve fake explosives. What we are talking about here, not just a false flag operation, but a staged event. The hand of U.S. intelligence, and of the MOSSAD in the bombing of the World Trade Center in 1993, is indeed the lynchpin for the understanding of the events of 2001 9-11, just as the New York Times says to day, it is predicate for seeing what really is taking place here in the United States with the contrivance of a U.S. intelligence operation to terrorize the American people and to prepare for a ten year design to seize Central Asian oil, five trillion dollars of short term profit is the objective of this particular operation, a continued war for our life times, according to Rumsfeld and Ashcroft. The American people have to be terrorized in to acquiescence, into such a design on such a massive scale.

MS: “In an exclusive interview with United Press International and Anorld Debouregave the editor...”

RS: “Mia, Arnold Debouregrave is the editor at large of United Press International, he’s the former editor of Newsweek and the Washington Times, and a man who himself has had connections with Intelligence agencies over the years.

MS: “Well, in an exclusive interview with him, General Goul Hameed, head of the Pakistani intelligence operations, the ISI, the principal instrument for training, arming, organizing, funding, and running drug operations that brought the Taliban into power and under the aegis, guidance and instruction of the Central Intelligence Agency, in Afghanistan, a man very familiar with the operations of Osama Bin Laden, in this exclusive interview the fundamentalist general stated that the bombing and the explosions of the World Trade Center in 2001, that it was clear that there was a plot by United States Air Force officers and Pentagon. Quote: “The twin towers were first attacked at 8:45 AM, and four flights were diverted from their assigned air space. Yet Air Force jets didn’t scramble, (which would be standard procedure) until 10:00 AM.” Goul Hameed continues, “This smacks of a small Air Force rebellion, a coup perhaps. Radars are jammed, transponders fail, there is no IFF (that means friend or foe identification challenge). This is an inside job. You saw Bush was afraid and he rushed to the shelter of a nuclear bunker. He seemed to fear a nuclear situation like a nuclear plant would be attacked. Now who could this have been? This was hushed up in the investigation just like the Warren Report after the Kennedy assassination.” Goul Hameed states. And Goul Hameed goes on and says, quote: “Let’s be serious, the MOSSAD and its American associates are the culprits. We ask, who benefits from the crime? Israel has a short shelf life before it is overwhelmed by demographics. The Palestinian movement cannot be put down. Israel has now handed to the Bush Administration, with it’s acquiescence, the opportunity for which it has been waiting, to consolidation America’s Imperial grip on the Gulf and to acquire control the Caspian basin extending it’s military presence in Central Asia. So this is General Goul Hameed, a man familiar, working hand in hand with the Central Intelligence Agency, speaking shortly after the events of September 11th.

RS: “A man who not only facilitated the creation of the Al Queda network when it was deployed against the Soviet Union, when it was intended to destabilize the Central Asian Republics, then of the former Soviet Union, the man who for the CIA facilitated the creation and the funding and the arming of the Taliban movement in Afghanistan. The man who had inside knowledge of all of these operations and who had a clear understanding of the role of Osama Bin Laden, states when describing the events of September 11th, 2001, and the coordination of aircraft to launch such an attack. He says this, “This is not something that is done from a cave, inside a mountain, or from a peasants hovel. You seriously think that a Bin Laden would be able to mount such an sophisticated operation?” He says, “Let us be serious.” “This,” he says, “is a false flag operation.” It is very clear form Goul Hameed in the interview that he gave in some detail, that the hand that is on this operation of 2001, 9-11, is the same that conducted the attack in 1993.

MS: “He is very specific. He says don’t believe it. “Within ten minutes of the second twin tower being hit in the World Trade Center CNN had announced that Osama Bin Ladin had done it. I am in intelligence.” Goul Hamid says. “That was a planned piece of disinformation by the real perpetrators. It creates an instant mindset. It puts public opinion in a trance which prevents even intelligent people from thinking for themselves.” Yes, brothers and sisters, thinking for themselves. And that is what over the months on ‘Taking Aim,’ with all the programs we have been doing about pretext and foreknowledge, with the exposure of the mythology of the Anthrax terror attacks, with peas soup of deception about the invasion of Iraq and so on. Getting us to think. Puncturing the balloon of mythology that in being presented night and day, throughout the press and throughout the world.

RS: “Mia, I have to say that in the discussions about the perpetual war that is being prepared, the genocidal assault that is about to be launched once again against the Iraqi people, many of the anti-war activists with who we feel great solidarity and identification and sympathy have been led, in our judgment, to embrace a fiction, namely that this is a terrorist attack in 2001 by an apparatus run from Afghanistan by Osama Bin Ladin. This is not a blow back operation, brothers and sisters, this is not something to which the ruling class in the United States is reacting belatedly. This is on the contrary a little operation of units that were completely penetrated and monitored by the intelligence agencies over a period of years. This is an operation about which every major intelligence agency was aware prior of its occurrence. The San Francisco Chronicle on the 12th of September 2001 reported in an article with a headline: ‘Willie Brown Got Early Warning About Air Travel,’ that Willie Brown was scheduled to fly from San Francisco to New York on the morning of the 11th, but received on Monday 10th a call from what he described as his airport security people advising him not to travel on that day and obliging him to cancel his flight.

MS: “Willie Brown is the Mayor of San Francisco and had been the speaker of the California Assembly for many, many years.

RS: “The article in the San Francisco Chronicle establishes that the Mayor had received this call but wouldn’t disclose its origins which is said to have been a bit of a mystery but from ‘high places.’ And the Mayor stated it came from ‘our security people,’ Quote, unquote. The reporter speculated later that this was in fact a heads up from Condaliza Rice. But it was not only Willie Brown. Former U.S. Secretary of State George Schultz received a State Department memo a week before cautioning that America was going to be the target of a major terrorist attack. In fact, four days prior to the attack on New York and Washington, this State Department memo specified that the attacks would be on buildings and coming from extremist groups with links to Osama Bin Laden and the Al Queda organization. George Shultz stated: “I don’t know what was the intelligence that lay behind the warning, but it was specific and they had to have had some sort of advanced intelligence.” The San Francisco Chronicle. In fact, he received a notification on September 7th, a worldwide warning, this from the State Department to which former Secretary of States George Schultz. And perhaps this was the series that prompted the San Francisco Chronicle to run a story with the headline: ‘How Could the United States Not Have Known?’ The article sights the government of India’s intelligence services which had passed on prior to the event all the specifics about 9-11 to the United States authorities. The Government of India, the article states, had intelligence on the precise attacks before they occurred, the Chronicle states that India’s intelligence apparatus intercepted communications attacks on buildings on September 11th and passed them on to U.S. authorities.

William Safire in the New York Times was reacting to the fact that George Bush had done a disappearing act after the attack and then showed up in Shreveport Louisiana and after that in Nebraska at a secure Air Force base before going to Washington. He questioned the rationale for this in an article he called: ‘Inside the Bunker.’ Safire was put off by the cover explanation that was given to him, in which the Secret Service and the authorities stated that they had received a warning from the quote ‘terrorists’ unquote on Air Force One, that Air Force One would be next. And Safire wrote the following: “The most worrying aspect of these government revelations has to do with the credibility of the Air Force One is next message. It’s described clearly as a threat. Well why would terrorists send such a message? More to the point,” Safire writes, “how did they get the code information, the transponder know how? How do did they establish,” what he calls their “malifidies?” “Their knowledge of the code words,” he writes, “of the Presidential whereabouts, of the possession of secret procedures indicates,” William Safire writes in the New York Times, “that these ‘terrorist’ have a mole in the White House, informants in the Secret Service, the FBI, the FAA and the CIA. The first thing a ‘War on Terrorism’ needs is an Angleton type counter spy.” At that very time, MSNBC reported that Russian President Vladimir Putin told interviewers for NBC that his government had given specific warning to the United States in the strongest possible terms for weeks, of imminent attacks on U.S. airports and government buildings. Russian Newspapers, including Pravda, reported that Russian intelligence notified the United States government of the specific attacks on 9-11 and identified twenty-five pilots trained specifically for what were called ‘suicide missions.’ That is not all.

In France, Reuters repots that an Islamic militant in receipt for French intelligence reports linking him to these events, was able to describe them in advance on a French radio station. The Frankfurter Allgemeine Zeitung, which is the largest newspaper in Germany, published similar reports of this information in the hands of German Intelligence authorities. It is quite clear that everybody in the world and their intelligence agencies was picking up on something planned, in not very secret fashion, alerting a U.S. government to an operation they obviously had full knowledge of. It is transparent. The intelligence agencies of virtually every country: India, France, Russia, Germany, Pakistan, were in full possession of the details of 9-11 and notified U.S. authorities well in advance.
MS: “And as it came out over the past months thought the Phoenix Arizona memos and the discussion of Colleen Rolly, and also Massuoi, himself, it is clear that U.S. intelligence had the information and it had been discussed in the secret councils of President George W. Bush.

One of the pilots that who was killed was an American Airlines pilot on the flight that crashed into the Pentagon. His name was Chick Burlingame. Now, Chick Burlingame h
ad been a Navy pilot, F-4 Phantom jets in Viet Nam and had flown for American Airlines for 28 years and was about to retire in 2002. A friend of his, his best friend, was Captain Kent Hill. And he too was an American Airlines pilot and he too was flying on September 11th, but his plane was going to Dallas. Kent Hill is also a close friend of a former paratrooper Lieutenant Colonel Donn Degrande Prey. On October 23rd, 2001, Lieutenant Colonel Donn Degrande Prey wrote an article which was picked up, along with a press conference by ‘The News,’ the largest English language Newspaper circulated in Portugal, which has been published for twenty years. ‘The News’ followed through on the claims by Lieutenant Colonel Donn Degrande Prey and Captain Kent Hill. It has been verifying what they have been saying. In fact, what they say it has to be a fiction about Mohamed Atta and the other so called terrorists taking control of these airplanes. What they write quote: “All pilots are trained to punch a four digit into the flight controls transponder to warn ground control crews of a high jacking, but this did not happen. Captain Hill maintained that the four airlines must have been choreographed by the Airborne Warning and Control System (that’s AWACs). The system can engage several aircraft simultaneously by knocking out their on board flight controls. And this is done with EMP, Electrical Magnetic Pulsing knocks, at the on board flight control and communications. So what they are speculating and they say this is where all the evidence points, and that’s why the planes all took off between 8:00 and 8:15 AM. That there must have been an AWACs plane up there, in the air, that took control, knocked out the transponders and that someone else, from the ground, was controlling those airplanes. There is no way that the people described, such as Mohamed Atta and the other people who went to flight schools and only learned to fly little Cessna’s, there is no way they could have ever taken control of those planes. And the conclusion of Degrande Prey and Captain Hill, (who flew over one hundred combat missions) their conclusion, quote: “We must consider that the enemy may well be within the gates.” Meaning that it is not some outside terrorist operation but that it is within the Pentagon itself.

RS: “Newsweek on September 24th of last year ran an important article which states: “On September 10th Newsweek learned that a group of top Pentagon officials suddenly canceled travel plans for the next morning because of advanced security concerns.” CBS disclosed on September 4th of this year (2002) quote: “CBS news has learned that barely fifteen minutes after American Airlines Flight 77 plowed into the Pentagon Defense Secretary Donald Rumsfeld had told his aides to come up with immediate plans for striking Iraq although there was no evidence linking Saddam Hussein to the attacks. According to notes taken by his aides who were with Rumsfeld, and I am quoting from CBS: “In the National Military Command Center notes that show exactly where the road to the war with Iraq began reports CBS news national security correspondent David Martin, “These were preparations long in place and the event of 9-11 was taken as the opportunity to place them into motion. Fifteen minutes after the hi jacked planes hit the Pentagon, Rumsfeld had put into motion a prearranged plan for preparing an attack on Iraq. This is but a little continuation of the false flag operation designed to service an agenda that was essential to the rulers of this society. The seizure of Central Asian oil and natural gas, the unleashing of a trillion dollar budget for the Pentagon, that would have never been impossible in American society without terrorizing the American people on a scale not experience before. The BBC on July 3rd, 2002, in a very important article by the BBC correspondent in Washington, Steve Kingston, states the following: “The only man charged in connection with the 11th of September attacks has asked to testify for the United States Congress. Zechariah Massoui states that he and the suspected hijackers were under full surveillance by the FBI prior to September 11th, and that the U.S. intelligence agencies allowed the attacks to happen. This is the latest in a series of hand written motions from Mr. Massoui to the judge. He states, “I have the relevant information and I have the proof, relating to the conduct of the prior knowledge of the FBI before September. He has asked for the chance,” The BBC reporter continues, “to share this evidence with U.S. lawmakers who are holding hearings into intelligence failings leading up to the attack.” The report continues that the statement by Massoui is a statement backed by what he calls documentations and evidence that he wants to present both to the court and the United States Congress, and he states: “The FBI chose not to make any arrests of people they were monitoring because they wanted the llth of September to proceed, to provide the excuse to destroy Afghanistan.” This is a quote from the BBC about Massoui.

MS: “As a follow up Ralph, the court filings of Massoui, which are public record, the judge has ruled that they will be secret and that the press, as you can see, with the BBC going with these court filings, that the public will be denied access to the court filings of Massoui, a further degeneration of the so called democratic rules of the United States.

RS: “Actually Mia its instructive to note that immediately after 9-11, the National Security Agency, as reported in the Washington Post, ordered the shredding of all data, and all documents pertaining to NSA material evidence bearing on September 11th. Shredded! And at that time a rather instructive event occurred, as reported in the Boston Globe. Jeb Bush, the Governor of Florida, oversaw the arrival in Venus Airport, Venus being the location of the flight schools run by the CIA, intelligence related Rudy Decker and Arney Reithoff, where these so called hijackers were brought from Hamburg to train. Jeb Bush, the Governor of Florida, with a literal flotilla of Ryder rental vans, went from police station to police station in all the surrounding communities; they emptied those police stations of all their files and the investigative work on the movements of the suspected hijackers. They were taken into a C-130 aircraft and they were flown out of Florida. We are looking here at the apparatus of suppression of evidence and bearing upon the request of Massoui to appear before the Senate in today’s San Francisco Chronicle an editorial called ‘Snooping on the Senators,’ “The erosion of civil liberties is hitting home on the United States Senate. In a disturbing sign of the times none of the targeted Senators are fighting back. In an effort to track down information in the hands of Senators about pre-September llth intercepts reported on CNN, the FBI is demanding that all seventeen members of the Senate Intelligence Committee hand over all records of contacts with journalists. The agents are demanding their telephone logs, their memos, their visitor sign in sheets, their appointment books, their emails and any material that may have indicated contact with the media. The request,” the editorial continues, “is far broader than required to chase down the origins of any one story. It is especially worrisome because the administration has not made a case that its disclosure would be harmful to national security.” What we are looking at here is not just the terrorizing of the American people, but even the political spokespersons of the ruling class itself in Congress are being terrorized with the knowledge that any contact with the press about the massive evidence of prior knowledge and prior complicity of the intelligence agencies of the United States and the events of September 11th are not to be permitted.

MS: “And what do they have to hide? Title of an article, quote: ‘Did Terrorist Pilots train at U.S. Military Schools?’ On September 15th and September 17th, just days after the September 11th attack in the Washington Post, Newsweek and Night Ridder Newspapers, full discussions that in addition to having been inducted to U.S. flight training programs by two Dutch owned flight schools in Venus, Florida, the Ruby Decker Schools of which Ralph was speaking, as many as six of the so called terrorists, including accused ringleader Mohamed Atta, received training at U.S. military facilities. Newsweek reported that quote: “U.S. military sources have given the FBI information that five of the alleged hijackers of the planes in Tuesdays terror attacks received training at secure U.S. military instillations.” And Night Ridder was even more specific. It stated quote: “Mohamed Atta attended International Officers School at Maxwell Air Force Base in Montgomery Alabama. And Abdul Azese Alamari attended the Aerospace School at Brooks Air Force Base in Texas. Sied Agmati attended the Defense Department Language Institute in Monterey, California.

RS: “In addition to which Mohamed Atta and these accused hijackers gave their address at the United States Naval Instillation at Pensacola, Florida. And the training that they received at Pensacola has been equally documented. These are people who were in school of intelligence direction, military schools, which is absolutely impossible with out a full intelligence clearance. These are operatives. These are people who were operating under the control, under the observation, under the direction of the United States Intelligence Agencies. The hands of intelligence are all over the events of 9-11. Exactly as they were over the lynch pin event, according to today’s New York Times, of the World Trade Center bombing of 1993.

MS: “Permanent perpetual war, conquest of the planet, of the resources of the planet and also to prevent the social revolution of the people of the planet for control over their own lives. The Sub Committee on Asia and the Pacific from John J. Marreska, Vice President of International Relations of the UniCal Corporation on February 12th, 1998, and it is instructive to follow what they say. Mr. Barruta, presiding for the sub committee on Asia and the Pacific said quote: “I have a statement to make. One hundred years ago Central Asia was the arena for a great game played by Czarist Russia, Colonial Britain and Napoleon’s France and the Persian and Ottoman Empires. One hundred years later the collapse of the Soviet Union has unleashed a great for the interests of the East India Trading Company have been replaced by those of UniCal, and SoCal.” And then when we hear from Marreska himself he says, quote “The regions total oil reserves will reach more than 60 billion barrels of oil in the short term and our estimates are as high as 200 billion barrels. In 1995 the region produced 870,000 barrels, by 2010 Western oil companies will increase this production by 4.5 million barrels a day, an increase of 500 percent. “Our major problem,” Marreska says, “has yet to be resolved. How to gain control and to get the regions vast energy resources to markets where they are needed.” They don’t mince words, they state openly what they want, Marreska says, quote: “We are revisiting this agenda for Central Asia, we contemplate a pipeline South from Central Asia to the Indian Ocean. The only possible route is across Afghanistan, which presents it’s own unique challenges because the country is involved in bitter warfare for almost two decades and it is divided by Civil War.” So what does Marreska say? “There must be control over Afghanistan, there must be stability over Afghanistan.” So that he can gain the confidence of governments, lenders and his company. What he says specifically, quote: “We have made it clear, construction of this pipeline will not begin until a recognized government has been put in place that has the confidence of government, lenders and our company.” Profits, five trillion dollars in the short term, war for oil, perpetual war, and now a war in Iraq. As Ralph has said, prior to September 11th, it was called ‘Operation Noble Eagle,’ the plans of Secretary Rumsfeld, of Dick Cheney, first Afghanistan and then Iraq. As Air Force General Richard Meyer, the Chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff, stated on ABC this week in 2001, he was asked whether he had started to prepare targets in Iraq. Now remember this is during the time of the invasion of Afghanistan, when the United States was claiming that it had no intensions to go into Iraq. He said quote: “This is a global war on terrorism and weapons of mass destruction. Afghanistan is only one small piece. Of course, we are thinking very broadly. Since World War II we haven’t thought this broadly about a campaign.”

RS: “Osama Bin Laden has been accused of being the mastermind and architect of supposed wave of terror against the United States. I say supposed because Osama Bin Laden, himself, has made two important interviews. One with Umatt in Pakistan, in which he went into detail about the attacks on September 11th and which he stated that he had no involvement in these. And the second was to the BBC. Quote: “I have already said that I am not involved in the September 11th attacks in the United States, I had no knowledge of these attacks nor do I consider the killing of innocent women and children and other humans as an appreciable act. There exists a government within a government in the United States. That secret government must to be asked as to who carried out these attacks. The United States should trace the perpetrators of these attacks to those persons who want to make this present century a century of conflict so their own rulers can survive.” This is a quote from the BBC of Osama Bin Laden. Now you will remember that the attribution of Osama Bin Laden of responsibility of these events was based upon several videotapes which were orchestrated and presented by the United States Government with great fan fare. But when we have examined these tapes and when indeed, experts have examined these tapes they found that these were scissors and paste jobs. That indeed, the particular tape which had him greeting people and supposedly celebrating the attack on September 11th was a splice from a previous tape, at a wedding ceremony taken more than a year previously and the analyst in London who examined this established that this was a complete scissors and paste job. This is not a question of romanticizing or reinventing Osama Bin Laden. Osama Bin Laden is a fundamentalist who was recruited and created by American intelligence for his operations in Afghanistan. But as Goul Hameed made clear, this is not the operation of a tiny little group operating out of a cave in Afghanistan, with every single communication monitored by the Promise hardware and the Echelon satellite spying apparatus of sophisticated electronic capacity on the part of U.S. intelligence agencies. The second tape, which was imputed to Osama Bin Laden, a tape which was said to have been made with a blind Sheik visiting him from Saudi Arabia, according to the tape which was presented, the Sheik was visiting Osama Bin Laden during the full moon at the time of Ramadan. The only problem is that the full moon was not in Afghanistan at the time this visit was claimed and that the entire route was under saturation bombing by B-52s and there was no access to the location in question as again, BBC and other experts established.

What we are looking at here is an attempt to father upon a ‘demonic figure’ Saddam Hussein, Noreiga, and now to Osama Bin Laden, to create the environment for perpetual war for oil, a perpetual war for the resources of the planet that our tiny ruling class requires and for which it needs a terrorized American public to acquiescence in its designs. This is a false flag operation the details of which are elaborated in our documentation over a period of one year. We will continue with this critique, we will continue with this evidence. We will again detail role of the Israeli MOSSAD, with its 200 intelligence operatives who were fanning across the United States, with sixty of them located in Hollywood, Florida. Two of them living on the same street as Mohamed Atta, monitoring his activities, as FOX News has detailed in elaborated reports.

This is a false flag operation. Quote: “In the most egregious instance a dozen Israeli spies operating out of 4422 Sheridan Street, a block away from 3389 Sheridan Street where Mohamed Atta was living, were monitoring his actions from day to day. Brothers and sisters, Sharon, Ariel Sharon, was instructed not to fly. On the day that he was scheduled to fly, September 11th , he was due to come to New York City. Like Willie Brown, Like George Schultz, so with Ariel Sharon, prior knowledge of a false flag operation, the events of September 11th, the terrorizing of the American people, the predicate for the suppression of our liberties, and the vehicle for an ‘Operation Northwoods’ like vast apparatus of war, continuous war and suppression at home.

MS: “As Helen Caldicott said just the other day, “If the world was to spend a thousand dollars a minute, since the birth of Christ, up until this current moment, it would equal one trillion dollars. The defense budget of the United States, half a trillion dollars annually, more if you consider the intelligence operations, and the vast military industrial complex, a thousand dollars a minute.