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DaCuBaN
10th July 2004, 23:09
With the results due to be out in the next few days, we should see more on this hitting the news. Here's something from the beeb.

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk_politics/3878025.stm



Q&A: The Butler intelligence inquiry

A report into the intelligence which the British government had about Iraq and weapons of mass destruction is to be published on Wednesday 14 July. It has been written by a committee headed by the former head of the civil service Lord Butler. BBC News Online examines some of the issues:
Why was the inquiry set up?

The Foreign Secretary Jack Straw set up the inquiry on 4 February 2004 following widespread public concern about the reliability of pre-war intelligence which claimed that Iraq had weapons of mass destruction. No such weapons have been found.

The inquiry members are: Lord Butler; Sir John Chilcot, a former civil servant in Northern Ireland; Labour MP Ann Taylor; Conservative MP Michael Mates; and Field Marshal Lord Inge, formerly Chief of the Defence Staff.

The committee met in private but had access to witnesses and documents.

What were its terms of reference?

It had three tasks. The first was to assess what intelligence is available about WMD and "countries of concern." This means not just Iraq but also countries like North Korea and Iran. The idea behind this was to see if problems encountered over Iraq might also occur elsewhere.

The second - the one attracting the most interest - was to "investigate the accuracy of intelligence on Iraqi WMD up to March 2003." March 2003 is when the war started. The inquiry had to "examine any discrepancies" between the pre-war intelligence and what has been found (or not found) since.

Thirdly, it had to make recommendations about the future handling of intelligence on WMD in "countries of concern."

What questions need to be answered?

The broad questions include: Were the sources for intelligence reliable and properly checked, did the government accept what it was being told too easily and why was it so forthright in its dossier on Iraq issued in September 2002.

Specifically, people will want to know, among other things, on what basis the government claimed that Iraq had chemical and biological weapons and was aiming to develop a nuclear bomb, why it said that Saddam Hussein had weapons he could fire within 45 minutes, why it said that Iraq had tried to get uranium from Niger in Africa and why it claimed that he had a number of Scud missiles.

Is the inquiry likely to conclude there was failure of intelligence?

This is the expectation because no weapons of mass destruction have been found.

It will be interesting to compare its findings with that of the Senate Intelligence Committee in the United States, which has concluded that there was indeed a major failure of intelligence.

On the other hand, the House of Commons Committee on Intelligence and Security in a report last September was generally supportive of the intelligence community and of the government's position, though it was critical of some important details.

Two members of that committee, its chair Ann Taylor, a Labour MP, and the conservative MP Michael Mates, are on the Butler inquiry.

Mr Mates revealed that the Butler report would deal with the theme that "intelligence does have its limitations."

Will the inquiry name names?

This remains to be seen.

The names people will be looking for fall into two categories - politicians and intelligence officials and politicians.

The roles of the Prime Minister Mr Blair, the Foreign Secretary Mr Straw and the defence Secretary Mr Hoon in accepting the intelligence are likely be examined.

It has also been reported that the Attorney general, Lord Goldsmith, who issued a legal ruling approving the war, will be mentioned.

The intelligence officials include John Scarlett, who was head of the Joint Intelligence Committee at the time (and has since been appointed head of the Secret Intelligence Service MI6) and Sir Richard Dearlove, head of M16 at the time.

Lord Butler himself has been criticised. Why?

His critics say that as a former top civil servant he is too close to government and will not rock the boat. They point to his too ready acceptance in 1994 of former Tory MP Jonathan Aitken's word about his dealings with a Saudi businessman. In fact Mr Aitken had lied and was later sent to prison for perjury.

His supporters say that his knowledge of government will help him make accurate assessments.

What's the difference between the Butler and the Hutton inquiries?

Lord Hutton dealt with the death of the government scientist Dr David Kelly, the BBC's role and the government's published dossier on Iraqi weapons. Lord Hutton deliberately did not get into the actual intelligence, only what use was made of it. The Butler inquiry is looking into the intelligence itself.

Have the Americans set up a similar inquiry?

On 6 February 2004, shortly after the Butler inquiry was announced, President Bush appointed a bipartisan panel to make a similar assessment of US intelligence and Iraq. It is headed by former Senator Chuck Robb, a Democrat and a former Appeal Court judge Laurence Silberman who served two Republican presidents.

This commission is not due to report until next year, after the US presidential election.

It is separate from the Senate Intelligence Committee which has published its own very critical findings.

Guerrilla22
11th July 2004, 00:09
At the same time, the US Senate Select Committee on Intelligence is also reviewing the steps and actions taken by both the D.O.D. and the CIA to gather intelligence on the supposed WMDS in Iraq. Yesterday, the comittee released a report saying that the CIA reports were badly flawed.

The committee is also investigating whether or not the Bush administration exagerated the case for war. Oddly enough, the Bush administration wants the committee's final report to come out after the November election.

h&s
12th July 2004, 10:36
I wonder which shade of white this inquiry will be available in?

DaCuBaN
12th July 2004, 11:55
MI6 'retracted' Iraq intelligence


Dr Jones questioned Tony Blair's evidence to the Hutton Inquiry
Tony Blair's war case has suffered a fresh blow after MI6 took the rare step of withdrawing intelligence about Iraq's WMD, the BBC has learned.
This week sees the publication of the Butler report into how intelligence on Iraq was handled.

That follows the premier's admission that Iraq's WMD may never be found.

The Archbishop of Canterbury said Mr Blair, a practising Christian, would have to account for his decision over the Iraq war at "the judgement seat".

John Ware, from the BBC's Panorama programme, was told that key intelligence on Iraq's weapons of mass destruction used to back the case for war has recently been withdrawn.

A spokesman for the prime minister told BBC News Online that Downing Street did not want to comment on reports about the case for invading Iraq until Lord Butler published the outcome of his inquiry.

Intelligence doubt

Rowan Williams was quoted in the Observer as saying: "When you acknowledge that you have taken a risk which has not paid off, which has cost, and that cost does not seem to be justified that's the punishment."

Two ex-intelligence officers meanwhile have cast doubt over the way the premier went about trying to justify war with Iraq.

Dr Brian Jones, formerly of the Defence Intelligence Staff (DIS), told the BBC's Panorama programme that no-one on his staff had seen evidence of the scale of weapons capability being touted by Downing Street.

John Morrison, former deputy chief of DIS, meanwhile said Mr Blair's claims on Iraqi WMD were met by disbelief in Whitehall.

"The prime minister was going way beyond anything any professional analyst would have agreed," he said.

'Unreliable'

Their statements seem to challenge assertions by the prime minister in the run-up to war that Iraq posed a "current and serious" threat to Britain.

Meanwhile Dr Jones told Panorama he "couldn't relate" to the prime minister's evidence to Lord Hutton on Iraq's weapons of mass destruction.

Mr Blair told the inquiry there was "a tremendous amount of information and evidence coming across my desk as to the WMD and programmes associated with it that Saddam had".

But Dr Jones, a critic of the government's Iraq dossier, told Panorama: "Certainly no-one on my staff had any visibility of large quantities of intelligence of that sort."

He said no-one knew what chemical or biological agents had been produced since the first Gulf War and there was no certainty among intelligence staff that agents had been stockpiled.

"There was a reasonable assumption that there may have been some stocks left over from the first Gulf War," Dr Jones said.

"If there had been any other production, then we have not identified that it had taken place."

Dr Jones told the Hutton Inquiry the dossier on Iraq was misleading because advice from DIS experts had been over-ruled by the Joint Intelligence Committee (JIC) which drafted it.

'Collective raspberry'

Mr Morrison told Panorama he could "almost hear the collective raspberry going up around Whitehall" when the prime minister told MPs the threat from Iraq was "current and serious".

He accused Mr Blair of making public statements which went beyond what experts could have reasonably concluded from the same evidence.

"In moving from what the dossier said Saddam had, which was a capability possibly, to asserting that Iraq presented a threat, then the prime minister was going way beyond anything any professional analyst would have agreed," he said.

Liberal Democrat leader Charles Kennedy said people wanted "straight answers to straight questions over the war."

Speaking ahead of two key parliamentary elections this week, Mr Kennedy added: "Now this government are just losing the plot.

"They are turning in on themselves and they are turning their back on the voters."

Mr Morrison said analysts came under pressure after Operation Desert Fox, the bombing campaign against Iraq in 1998.

Analysts had felt pressured to back claims targets actively involved in WMD production had been hit in the strikes - even if they were not sure that was the case.

Panorama also claimed John Scarlett, chairman of the JIC, was warned a month after the dossier's publication the intelligence was not strong enough to back the presentation of some of its claims.

Mr Scarlett may be among the intelligence bosses singled out for criticism in Wednesday's report.

Panorama: A failure of intelligence was broadcast on BBC One at 2215 BST on Sunday.

Article (http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk_politics/3884353.stm)
Video (http://news.bbc.co.uk/media/video/40369000/rm/_40369729_intel00_jones11_vi.ram)