Yankees cant handle it anymore?

[fernando]

Ok...the US is having a hard time in Iraq...Imperialist soldiers dying all the time...so why not have South Americans die instead, in the US morale would go up, and well who cares about a bunch of South Americans <_<

Well...they planned it alright&#33;


As violent attacks continue in Iraq, corporate America is turning to Latin America to "outsource" protection services to veterans of the region&#39;s &#39;dirty wars&#39;.
Rest of the article: http://www.alternet.org/waroniraq/18967/

[Y2A]

First off, their jobs are as security guards for workers not soldiers. Second, these are former death squad members thus I don&#39;t really care if they die.

What do you want? Me to feel sorry just because they are hispanic? The stupidity of it all.

[Commie Girl]

Just another way for the U&#036; to use U&#036; sponsored terrorists to carry out more of their dirty work&#33; That these people are left over from the failed policies and deplorable human rights abuses the U&#036; carried out in Central and South America is disturbing, to say the least.

The U&#036; govt&#39;s hands are just as stained as ever with the blood of innocents&#33;

[Capitalist Imperial]

LOL, this thread is laughable.

This weak-ass pinko argument would hold maybe an iota of water if the US military was not a volnteer army.

By the way, soldiers of all colors and creeds serve in the US military. Soldiers of all colors and creeds have died to liberate and stabilize Iraq. To focus arbitrarily on the Hispanics is to disrespect the contributions of all of the others.

By the way, the US military death count, contrary to what media sensationalism wants you to believe, is very low considering that this is a protracted urban warfare operation. The US is performing superbly considering the situation.

[Cheech06]

hey capitalist imperial, what are u politically? Its kind of sad that when people put their life at risk just for MONEY&#33;&#33; Damn money&#33;&#33; Why the hell do they have to get latins?? why cant they get some americans?

[Y2A]

Yeah poor latin death squad members, like I give a fuck. You people don&#39;t even realize you own hypocracy. When communist guerrillas killed these bastards, you praise it. But god forbid they are put in harms way by the evil U.&#036;. then they are no longer evil fascist pigs but rather minority heros. Fucking imbecile pinko pukes, why do I waste my time with you?

[fernando]

I have no concern if they die or not, what Im trying to say is that once again the US needs somebody else to do their dirty job. Im not saying these people are heroes or anything...

[fernando]

Originally posted by Capitalist [email protected] 10 2004, 11:09 PM
LOL, this thread is laughable.

This weak-ass pinko argument would hold maybe an iota of water if the US military was not a volnteer army.

By the way, soldiers of all colors and creeds serve in the US military. Soldiers of all colors and creeds have died to liberate and stabilize Iraq. To focus arbitrarily on the Hispanics is to disrespect the contributions of all of the others.

By the way, the US military death count, contrary to what media sensationalism wants you to believe, is very low considering that this is a protracted urban warfare operation. The US is performing superbly considering the situation.
Im not saying about who is serving in the US army...I hardly care for the US army, the way I see they are the enemy. Im saying that they cant do it own their own and need mercenaries, death squads from the past to do their dirty job...well it will be re living the good old days when the US still supplied them and helped them come to power I guess


By the way, the US military death count, contrary to what media sensationalism wants you to believe, is very low considering that this is a protracted urban warfare operation. The US is performing superbly considering the situation.
Really? do you have any sources for this? or this is simple bullshit you are trying to say in order for the people to believe that the Iraq war was going very well?


liberate and stabilize Iraq
Ok...this I cant take serious, sorry...liberate and stabilize <_<

[Y2A]

"30,000 Chileans as mercenaries to protect American companies under Pentagon contract to rebuild Iraq."

This isn&#39;t the "U.S dirty work" as it does not relate to the war. These people aren&#39;t being hired to hunt down insurgents or interogate Iraqi&#39;s. And face it kid, you did want us to feel sorry because they are hispanic. Fucking ridiculous.

[fernando]

I probable have posted the same if it would have said "30,000 belgians as mercenaries...." Im just saying that the US needs these people now, while they feel so tough as being the strongest nation who can do it own their own....well at least that is the impression they tend to give us here <_<

[Y2A]

They aren&#39;t fighting.

[fernando]

Not anymore...and then some Iraqi "terrorist" bombs some Americans again, or something like that...its not like the Americans left Iraq.

[Y2A]

I&#39;m saying that the jobs of the latin americans isn&#39;t to fight insurgents.

[Guerrilla22]

The US uses plenty of American mercenaries as well. The fact is if you are willing to fight or take part in something for money, you acknoledge the risk. The US army is undermanned and that is why they are turning to hiring people for security.

[Y2A]

Would you rather they have a draft?

[DaCuBaN]

In some ways, I would say yes. The draft would certainly knock the US public out of their complacency - there&#39;s a distinct feeling of &#39;Dulce et Decorum est&#39; from many I speak to on that side of the pond...

[Guerrilla22]

I agree, with Cuban, sometimes I think it would do this country a lot of good to have a draft, then people wouldn&#39;t be so quick to jump on board and support needless wars, if the fact that they may actually have to take part is a reality.

[DaCuBaN]

The flaw in my logic is of course Israel, who have been conscripting now for years - but then they don&#39;t have to face serious military resistance. It&#39;s always puzzled me why the palestinians seem to do more suicide bombings against buses and the like.... why not do it to a tank if you&#39;re going to?

[Guerrilla22]

However, ever since the Vietnam War Americans have hated the draft. The situation in Israel is different because the fighting is going on in their actual homeland and they feel a need to protect it. The war in Iraq was absolutely senseless, although many Americans supported it without thinking twice, maainly because they didn;t have to risk thheir own lives, these are people like Y2A, and Capitalist Imperial.

[fernando]

Because a tank also has a machien gun on up which will take the suicide bomber out before even gets there. And if he would get there, the question is if that bomb would be strong enough to destroy a heavily armoured tank

[DaCuBaN]

Have you ever been to Israel? Take Jerusalem as an example: When I was there (over 4 years ago now) you couldn&#39;t walk 10yds without seeing an Israeli with his ex-vietnam M-16 rifle flicking the safety catch on and off and pointing it out from the midriff, so it&#39;s not exactly safe to walk around the cities looking suspicious either.

I&#39;m in full support of the palestinian liberation movements that exist when they do things in a manner befitting their cause - when it becomes a nationalist sentiment I get very wary. I get the feeling (and it&#39;s just a feeling) that there is an element of vengence involved.

[Guerrilla22]

Originally posted by [email protected] 11 2004, 10:15 PM
when it becomes a nationalist sentiment I get very wary. I get the feeling (and it&#39;s just a feeling) that there is an element of vengence involved.
I definitely think a large amount of the fighting on both sides has become vengence motivated. The problem is, the Palestinian people have become hopeless and doubt that there ever will be an actual Palestinian state since the international community has ceased to help them and now even the Arab states are turning their back on them.

[DaCuBaN]

This is what astounds me... I&#39;m yet to meet anyone face-to-face who doesn&#39;t think Israel are the ones who should back down...

Do all the Israeli supporters hide away in darkened rooms plotting to take over the world? Or is Scotland just a reasonable place...

[fernando]

I met some, at my old school...they would simply call you an anti-semetic person for having pro Palestinian views, they tend to do that very easily in Holland, my neighbour has the Palestinian flag hanging outside his window, and people have called him a Nazi and all that kinda stuff.

[DaCuBaN]

There&#39;s a difference between Judaism and Isreal. If people can&#39;t see that, I can&#39;t hear them :D

[fernando]

true...but in Holland (or at least where I live) people dont seem to look at it like that <_<