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bunk
10th July 2004, 13:58
Following on from Communists unite thread this is a thread if anyone actually wants to give this a try. Unfortunately i don't have the knowledge to create a website.
What to start on:
- Work on uniting all types of leftists under the one flag.
- Avoid a hierachial structure. I don't think we shoud start with any leaders with total control.
- The movement starts off as a peaceful one, in these times it would be easy to be branded terrorists so we should be peaceful until it's necessary not to be.

This is a few ideas from me

VukBZ2005
10th July 2004, 14:22
Your Ideas are good and impressive. Yes, We must avoid
a Hirarchial Structure - We don't need leaders. For a One Flag
- i would rather have a four-point star in the Center of a big
red field. And of Course since we all live in reactionary times,
we must start off peacefully of course, we must defend our
ideals whenever possible.

h&s
12th July 2004, 10:34
That is a good idea, but if we do have a large, world-wide organisation it would be extremely easy for the security services to penetrate and break up.

The movement starts off as a peaceful one, in these times it would be easy to be branded terrorists so we should be peaceful until it's necessary not to be.

Yes, but do you think the enemy plays by the rules? As soon as the organisation is set up it will be branded as a "sinister terrorist organisation, and a big threat to world security," and will probably be made illegal in almost every country.

Abajo con el imperialismo
12th July 2004, 11:34
aye but if we keep a low profile they might not care or notice,there are alot of organizations around the globe they cant keep track of everything

DaCuBaN
12th July 2004, 11:42
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/technology/3430987.stm

Abajo con el imperialismo
12th July 2004, 12:38
heh anything can be expected from the cia

h&s
12th July 2004, 13:36
The software automatically extracts geographic references from text documents such as e-mails or webpages.

Is that even legal?

DaCuBaN
12th July 2004, 19:23
:lol:
Since when have any government really cared what's legal or not? Lawyers are a powerful tool.... or is it lawyers are tools

VukBZ2005
13th July 2004, 02:15
How about establishing a online Revolutionary Media Networkk that would serve as a digital nerve of Gobal Proletarian Movement - A System sort of like Indymedia but it would allow collabrative Filtering - that would put the most important information first,
And least important info last. It can also serve as a source of Leftist Entertainment...
what do you think of that?

Abajo con el imperialismo
13th July 2004, 02:30
yes that sounds good,I hate the typical media telling lies to the people...

VukBZ2005
14th July 2004, 14:50
Yes - This Revolutionary Media Network would serve as a Unifying
nerve of a Global Communist Revolutionary Movement. Then let's
see what we can do about persuing this further.

il Commie
14th July 2004, 15:24
I'm sorry to break the joy, but something like 12 bazillion so-called "trotzkyst" internationales thought about building a website and then "a worldwide movment".

Just go to this page on "broadleft.org" and check some of them out:

http://www.broadleft.org/trotskyi.htm

1949
14th July 2004, 15:47
I'm sorry to break the joy, but something like 12 bazillion so-called "trotzkyst" internationales thought about building a website and then "a worldwide movment".

Just go to this page on "broadleft.org" and check some of them out:

http://www.broadleft.org/trotskyi.htm

Wow. I didn't think they would have Trotskyites in Argentina and Bolivia, since Trotskyism is so anti-peasant.

Anyway, you guys should check out the Revolutionary Internationalist Movement.

Here are some of their major documents. (http://rwor.org/s/corim.htm)

Here is their 1984 declaration. (http://www.awtw.org/rim/declaration_eng.htm)

Signatories of the Declaration of the Revolutionary Internationalist Movement and Participating Organizations in RIM:

Ceylon Communist Party (Maoist)
Communist Party of Afghanistan
Communist Party of Bangladesh (Marxist-Leninist) [BSD(ML)]
Communist Party of India (Marxist-Leninist) (Naxalbari)
Communist Party of Iran (Marxist-Leninist-Maoist)
Communist Party of Nepal (Maoist)
Communist Party of Peru
Communist Party of Turkey Marxist-Leninist
Maoist Communist Centre of India
Maoist Communist Party [Italy]
Marxist-Leninist Communist Organisation of Tunisia
Proletarian Party of Purba Bangla (PBSP) [Bangladesh]
Revolutionary Communist Group of Colombia
Revolutionary Communist Party, USA

il Commie
14th July 2004, 16:09
Trotzkysm is not anti-peasant. It only says that the working-class should be the leader of the revolution. In oppose to the petty-bourgeoise ideology of the Maoists who think the peasants by themselves could build more than Stalinists non-democratic states, and that too only on rare periods of time. South America is a strong hold of trotzkysm actually, though many parts of south american and actually worldwide trotzkyst movment are very sectarists. This is a big disease in the Trotzkyst movment, which I hope will be wiped out. Organizations like the ICFI are just planely ridiculous.

VukBZ2005
14th July 2004, 16:27
Originally posted by il [email protected] 14 2004, 03:24 PM
I'm sorry to break the joy, but something like 12 bazillion so-called "trotzkyst" internationales thought about building a website and then "a worldwide movment".

Just go to this page on "broadleft.org" and check some of them out:

http://www.broadleft.org/trotskyi.htm
Real Communism is the Liberation of the Working Class and Mankind my friend.
Trotskyism and Leninst variants are outdated paradigms that must be ejected out
of the left. I Don't care if the Leninsts and whoever respond in a negative way -
I'm saying that - a real Global Communist Movement probably based on the way
the SDS was organized is needed.

bunk
14th July 2004, 17:11
Do people agree that essentialy communism is anarchism and communism is just another transition like socialism.

1949
14th July 2004, 17:13
Trotzkysm is not anti-peasant. It only says that the working-class should be the leader of the revolution. In oppose to the petty-bourgeoise ideology of the Maoists who think the peasants by themselves could build more than Stalinists non-democratic states, and that too only on rare periods of time. South America is a strong hold of trotzkysm actually, though many parts of south american and actually worldwide trotzkyst movment are very sectarists. This is a big disease in the Trotzkyst movment, which I hope will be wiped out. Organizations like the ICFI are just planely ridiculous.

Trotskyites say that the peasants are barbaric and reactionary and cannot build socialism unless the proletariat in the advanced countries have a revolution. The experience of socialism in the Soviet Union and China have proven this to be totally wrong. Sounds like Trotskyism is anti-peasant.

Read this. (http://www.plp.org/books/Stalin/node14.html#SECTION00500000000000000000)

As for the proletariat leading the revolution: that is what Mao thought. "Today, whoever can lead the people in driving out Japanese imperialism and introducing democratic government will be the saviours of the people. History has proved that the Chinese bourgeoisie cannot fulfil this responsibility, which inevitably falls upon the shoulders of the proletariat." ("On New Democracy")

il Commie
14th July 2004, 17:24
Trotzkyism does not say the peasants are barbaric. It says that the peasants are not the historical class which will lead the revolution, it can only join the proletarian revolution. Mao might have said things about this, but it's a fact that his revolution was from the village to the city and not the other way around.

The experience of the USSR and China only proves that Trotzkysm was correct. It proves that the economy these days is worldwide, so the socialist economy which is the alternative to these days capiatlist system must be international too. Socialism in one country lead to the rise of Stalinism in the USSR and China, because the stalinists did not wanted any democratic-socialist revolution which will show their people that there is an alternative to Stalinism. This lack of international revolution which will build democracy and Socialism broght USSR and the eastern european bloc to fall, and China to be privatized. Cuba is for now the only democratic and socialist nation out there (not without flaws and mistakes), but I can assure you that without other revolutions (especially in Latin America) it will become degenerated like hell and will die. Just like the russian revolution choked by the stalinist counterrevolution.

1949
14th July 2004, 18:11
The experience of the USSR and China only proves that Trotzkysm was correct. It proves that the economy these days is worldwide, so the socialist economy which is the alternative to these days capiatlist system must be international too. Socialism in one country lead to the rise of Stalinism in the USSR and China, because the stalinists did not wanted any democratic-socialist revolution which will show their people that there is an alternative to Stalinism. This lack of international revolution which will build democracy and Socialism broght USSR and the eastern european bloc to fall, and China to be privatized. Cuba is for now the only democratic and socialist nation out there (not without flaws and mistakes), but I can assure you that without other revolutions (especially in Latin America) it will become degenerated like hell and will die. Just like the russian revolution choked by the stalinist counterrevolution.

Yous should read The Stalin Era (http://www.plp.org/books/strong_stalin_era.pdf) by Anna Louise Strong before you claim there was no proletarian democracy in the Soviet Union under Stalin. As for the whole "socialism in one country" debate, I let Lenin handle that one: "Uneven economic and political development is an absolute law of capitalism. Hence, the victory of socialism is possible first in several or even in one capitalist country alone." ("On the Slogan For a United States of Europe"; emphasis added)

Edit:


Trotzkyism does not say the peasants are barbaric.

Trotsky said in Results and Prospects that the peasants are characterized by "political barbarism, social formlessness, primitiveness and lack of character. None of these features can in any way create a reliable basis for a consistent, active proletarian policy". (Emphasis added.) That is where I got the word "barbaric".


Mao might have said things about this, but it's a fact that his revolution was from the village to the city and not the other way around.

What do you expect from a country that was over 90% peasants?

Daymare17
14th July 2004, 18:21
Originally posted by [email protected] 14 2004, 06:11 PM
As for the whole "socialism in one country" debate, I let Lenin handle that one: "Uneven economic and political development is an absolute law of capitalism. Hence, the victory of socialism is possible first in several or [b]even in one capitalist country alone." ("On the Slogan For a United States of Europe"; emphasis added)
I can't help it but to post a few internationalist quotes by Lenin. (Note this is from a book (http://www.marxist.com/russiabook), I didn't search through his collected works to find these quotes)

7th March 1918:

"Regarded from the world-historical point of view, there would doubtlessly be no hope of the ultimate victory of our revolution if it were to remain alone, if there were no revolutionary movements in other countries. When the Bolshevik Party tackled the job alone, it did so in the firm conviction that the revolution was maturing in all countries and that in the end - but not at the very beginning - no matter what difficulties we experienced, no matter what defeats were in store for us, the world socialist revolution would come - because it is coming; would mature - because it is maturing and will reach full maturity. I repeat, our salvation from all these difficulties is an all-European revolution." (LCW, Vol. 27, p. 95.)

24th January 1918:

"We are far from having completed even the transitional period from capitalism to socialism. We have never cherished the hope that we could finish it without the aid of the international proletariat. We never had any illusions on that scoreÉ The final victory of socialism in a single country is of course impossible. Our contingent of workers and peasants which is upholding Soviet power is one of the contingents of the great world army, which at present has been split by the world war, but which is striving for unityÉ We can now see clearly how far the development of the Revolution will go. The Russian began it - the German, the Frenchman and the Englishman will finish it, and socialism will be victorious." (LCW, Vol. 26, pp. 465-72.)

8th March 1918:

"The Congress considers the only reliable guarantee of the consolidation of the socialist revolution that has been victorious in Russia to be its conversion into a world working-class revolution." (LCW, from Resolution on War and Peace, Vol. 27. p. 119.)

23rd April 1918:

"We shall achieve final victory only when we succeed at last in conclusively smashing international imperialism, which relies on the tremendous strength of its equipment and discipline. But we shall achieve victory only together with all the workers of other countries, of the whole worldÉ" (LCW, Vol. 27, p. 231.)

14th May 1918:

"To wait until the working classes carry out a revolution on an international scale means that everyone will remain suspended in mid-airÉ It may begin with brilliant success in one country and then go through agonising periods, since final victory is only possible on a world scale, and only by the joint efforts of the workers of all countries." (LCW, Vol. 27, pp. 372-3.)

29th July 1918:

"We never harboured the illusion that the forces of the proletariat and the revolutionary people of any one country, however heroic and however organised and disciplined they might be, could overthrow international imperialism. That can be done only by the joint efforts of the workers of the worldÉ We never deceived ourselves into thinking this could be done by the efforts of one country alone. We knew that our efforts were inevitably leading to a worldwide revolution, and that the war begun by the imperialist governments could not be stopped by the efforts of those governments themselves. It can be stopped only by the efforts of all workers; and when we came to power, our task É was to retain that power, that torch of socialism, so that it might scatter as many sparks as possible to add to the growing flames of socialist revolution." (LCW, Vol. 28, pp. 24-5.)

8th November 1918:

"From the very beginning of the October Revolution, foreign policy and international relations have been the main question facing us. Not merely because from now on all the states of the world are being firmly linked by imperialism into one, dirty, bloody mass, but because the complete victory of the socialist revolution in one country alone is inconceivable and demands the most active co-operation of at least several advanced countries, which do not include RussiaÉ We have never been so near to world proletarian revolution as we are now. We have proved we were not mistaken in banking on world proletarian revolutionÉ Even if they crush one country, they can never crush the world proletarian revolution, they will only add fuel to the flames that will consume them all." (LCW, Vol. 28, pp. 151-64.)

20th November 1918:

"The transformation of our Russian Revolution into a socialist revolution was not a dubious venture but a necessity, for there was no other alternative: Anglo-French and American imperialism will inevitably destroy the independence and freedom of Russia if the world socialist revolution, world Bolshevism, does not triumph." (LCW, Vol. 28, p. 188.)

15th March 1919:

"Complete and final victory on a world scale cannot be achieved in Russia alone; it can be achieved only when the proletariat is victorious in at least all the advanced countries, or, at all events, in some of the largest of the advanced countries. Only then shall we be able to say with absolute confidence that the cause of the proletariat has triumphed, that our first objective - the overthrow of capitalism - has been achieved. We have achieved this objective in one country, and this confronts us with a second task. Since Soviet power has been established, since the bourgeoisie has been overthrown in one country, the second task in to wage the struggle on a world scale, on a different plane, the struggle of the proletarian state surrounded by capitalist states." (LCW, Vol. 29, pp. 151-64.)

5th December 1919:

"Both prior to October and during the October Revolution, we always said that we regard ourselves and can only regard ourselves as one of the contingents of the international proletarian armyÉ We always said that the victory of the socialist revolution therefore, can only be regarded as final when it becomes the victory of the proletariat in at least several advanced countries." (LCW, Vol. 30, pp. 207-8.)

20th November 1920:

"The Mensheviks assert that we are pledged to defeating the world bourgeoisie on our own. We have, however, always said that we are only a single link in the chain of the world revolution, and have never set ourselves the aim of achieving victory by our own means." (LCW, Vol. 31, p. 431.)

End of February 1922:

"But we have not finished building even the foundations of socialist economy and the hostile powers of moribund capitalism can still deprive us of that. We must clearly appreciate this and frankly admit it; for there is nothing more dangerous than illusionsÉ And there is absolutely nothing terrible É in admitting this bitter truth; for we have always urged and reiterated the elementary truth of Marxism - that the joint efforts of the workers of several advanced countries are needed for the victory of socialism." (LCW, Vol. 33, p. 206.)


Socialism is not possible in one country, least of all a backward peasant country like Russia 1917 and China 1949. The theory of socialism in one country was disproved very much by the rise of an uncontrolled and privileged bureaucracy which lorded it over the working class of these countries and imposed a totalitarian dictatorship, very far from the democratic socialism envisaged by Marx, Engels and Lenin.

1949
14th July 2004, 18:35
Socialism is not possible in one country, least of all a backward peasant country like Russia 1917 and China 1949. The theory of socialism in one country was disproved very much by the rise of an uncontrolled and privileged bureaucracy which lorded it over the working class of these countries and imposed a totalitarian dictatorship, very far from the democratic socialism envisaged by Marx, Engels and Lenin.

Yawn. This has already been refuted in many threads here in the past.

Saint-Just
14th July 2004, 18:54
Does anyone here actually know how the Soviet system worked in Russia? Can they explain how it was not democratic. All those who were not empoyers or convicts etc. were able to attend and participate in political meetings and vote and stand for election.

Stalin worked towards revolution in other countries. For example, the establishment of the so-called 'Stalin School' where foreign revolutionaries were trained to bring about a socialist revolution in their own country.

bunk
14th July 2004, 20:21
as far as i am aware they did not have elections for each dictator?? :D

VukBZ2005
14th July 2004, 20:24
Who Cares - I believe a Worldwide Communist Movement needs
not of a Authoritarian Structure, from Top-Down - but a Worldwide
Communist Movement should a have a non-Hierarchial sturcture
run from the Bottom-Up.

bunk
14th July 2004, 20:44
of course all else has failed.

1949
14th July 2004, 22:02
Soviet Constitution of 1936

CHAPTER XI

THE ELECTORAL SYSTEM

ARTICLE 134. Members of all Soviets of Working People's Deputies--of the Supreme Soviet of the U.S.S.R., the Supreme Soviets of the Union Republics, the Soviets of Working People's Deputies of the Territories and Regions, the Supreme Soviets of the Autonomous Republics, and Soviets of Working People's Deputies of Autonomous Regions, area, district, city and rural (station, village, hamlet, kishlak, aul) Soviets of Working People's Deputies--are chosen by the electors on the basis of universal, direct and equal suffrage by secret ballot.

ARTICLE 135. Elections of deputies are universal: all citizens of the U.S.S.R. who have reached the age of eighteen, irrespective of race or nationality, religion, educational and residential qualifications, social origin, property status or past activities, have the right to vote in the election of deputies and to be elected, with the exception of insane persons and persons who have been convicted by a court of law and whose sentences include deprivation of electoral rights.

ARTICLE 136. Elections of deputies are equal: each citizen has one vote; all citizens participate in elections on an equal footing.

ARTICLE 137. Women have the right to elect and be elected on equal terms with men.

ARTICLE 138. Citizens serving in the Red Army have the right to elect and be elected on equal terms with all other citizens.

ARTICLE 139. Elections of deputies are direct: all Soviets of Working People's Deputies, from rural and city Soviets of Working People's Deputies to the Supreme Soviet of the U.S.S.R., inclusive, are elected by the citizens by direct vote.

ARTICLE 140. Voting at elections of deputies is secret.

ARTICLE 141. Candidates for election are nominated according to electoral areas. The right to nominate candidates is secured to public organizations and societies of the working people: Communist Party organizations, trade unions, cooperatives, youth organizations and cultural societies.

ARTICLE 142. It is the duty of every deputy to report to his electors on his work and on the work of the Soviet of Working People's Deputies, and he is liable to be recalled at any time in the manner established by law upon decision of a majority of the electors.

Nothing Human Is Alien
15th July 2004, 02:55
A power organized international movement may exsist in the future, but as for now it doesn't.

Saint-Just
15th July 2004, 13:08
Originally posted by [email protected] 14 2004, 08:21 PM
as far as i am aware they did not have elections for each dictator?? :D
We don't elect our leader in Britain either. As in the Soviet Union the leader is elected by party membership.

As Marx said all societies are dictatorships, of a particular class. A heirarchical structure is necessary for the most ideologically committed to be in the highest positions and so that the capitalists and oppressors may be kept from political participation.

In the USSR people would elect those they knew into selosoviets and city soviets to make decisions on a local level and discuss national issues and make their opinion known to higher levels of government. This was seen as superior to democracy on the basis of anonymous mass voting of huge electoral constituencies.

kami888
22nd July 2004, 06:12
Ok, at first i see a proposal of an international socialist site.
Then already people start saying that some grops of communists should be ejected.

What is that?! that way you will never be able to create a popular front!

Marxists, anarchists, leninists, trotskyists, even stalinists, and other groupes who oppose capitalism should all be included in the site! All of the internal misunderstandings can be discussed on the forums within the site.

About the non-hierarchial system, how is that possible? Remember, we still live under capitalism, an we cannot all own a server. Whether you want it or not, someone must be elected to have the "totalitarian control" over the server. If you have some other ideas, then please post them.



About USSR:

USSR was originally created as a democratic state where power belonged to the "soviets", and therefore to the people. However, hash conditions of the civil war and the continuous foreign invasions forced power to be centralized around the communist party and it's central committee. That's how USSR became totalitarian.

VukBZ2005
22nd July 2004, 08:53
Originally posted by [email protected] 22 2004, 06:12 AM
Ok, at first i see a proposal of an international socialist site.
Then already people start saying that some grops of communists should be ejected.

What is that?! that way you will never be able to create a popular front!

Marxists, anarchists, leninists, trotskyists, even stalinists, and other groupes who oppose capitalism should all be included in the site! All of the internal misunderstandings can be discussed on the forums within the site.

About the non-hierarchial system, how is that possible? Remember, we still live under capitalism, an we cannot all own a server. Whether you want it or not, someone must be elected to have the "totalitarian control" over the server. If you have some other ideas, then please post them.



About USSR:

USSR was originally created as a democratic state where power belonged to the "soviets", and therefore to the people. However, hash conditions of the civil war and the continuous foreign invasions forced power to be centralized around the communist party and it's central committee. That's how USSR became totalitarian.
I Believe in Anarchist Communism which calls for the Abolition of
Capitalism, The State and all authoritarian Systems. Socialism
leads back to Capitalism - We need to try Something new. The
Leninist theory has been tried time and time again and it has
ultimately failed. I Believe Anarcho-Communism is something
attainable.

The Site - It does not need to be a "Socialist Site" - it should reflect
something like this - The Global Proletarian Movement or
something on that line at least.

h&s
22nd July 2004, 15:53
Wow, another thread has turned into a Trotsky-Stalin debate. When will you people stop arguing and learn to work together?

Rasta Sapian
22nd July 2004, 17:17
Good ideas, As far as the flag goes i think that it should be basic with a simple design easy to recogize from a distance etc. yet fundamentally symbolic

how about a red flag, with a large yellow star in the center

what do yall think?

VukBZ2005
22nd July 2004, 18:26
How about this for a Gobal Proletarian Flag?

VukBZ2005
22nd July 2004, 18:39
LinuxMan86's Thoughts on a Golbal Proletarian Organization

Well, I believe that a Golbal Proletarian Organization should be
organized from the bottom-up. It should be non-Hierarchial -
For too long - We have been trying the Leninist Theory - It
has not worked. So i think it is time to take a new lead. In
order to reflect on the sprit of resistance - We may call this
organization "Viva La Resistance" or "People's Communist
Bloc" - Ethier way, it's all good.

More later - i'll be back.

kami888
22nd July 2004, 18:53
Well, what I'm trying to say is: If you think Lininist and Stalinist theories are doomed to fail, then do your best to prove it to the people who believe in that. They might have their own arguments to support their opinion, and who knows, maybe you will find out that you were wrong and they were right.

It does not matter if you consider them communists or not, as long as they consider themselves communist, invite them to the site in order to exchange ideas.

The more "popular" this front is, the better it is for all of us.

Btw, your "global proletarian flag" looks more like Jewish movement :). Plus, why is it on the dark background?

I would prefere something more classical like this:

VukBZ2005
22nd July 2004, 18:58
Originally posted by [email protected] 22 2004, 06:53 PM
Well, what I'm trying to say is: If you think Lininist and Stalinist theories are doomed to fail, then do your best to prove it to the people who believe in that. They might have their own arguments to support their opinion, and who knows, maybe you will find out that you were wrong and they were right.

It does not matter if you consider them communists or not, as long as they consider themselves communist, invite them to the site in order to exchange ideas.

The more "popular" this front is, the better it is for all of us.
Hmmm....that may be a good option...for now at least....

VukBZ2005
23rd July 2004, 07:03
I have hammered out a provincial Web Design for the website -
which looks good by the way. I've even got the forum software
for the new site if it is to be carried out.

On the Flag - I was aiming for a more Simple design - but yours
is better - Damn - i've got to change the friggin' webbanner for
the proposed site......

Raisa
23rd July 2004, 07:07
I think we should stick with the sickle and hammer one way or the other.

VukBZ2005
23rd July 2004, 07:10
Originally posted by [email protected] 23 2004, 07:07 AM
I think we should stick with the sickle and hammer one way or the other.
Why should we Raisa? A New movement means a new time. That
means we should also have new flags and symbol to represent
our Unification.

VukBZ2005
23rd July 2004, 14:08
Oh yeah.... the provincial website is looking good so far...

kami888
23rd July 2004, 23:29
So, can i see it? ;)

About the simplisity of the flag: The symbol in the middle was ripped out of the GermanDemocraticRepublic flag. In order to make it simple you might want to remove the surrounding brushwood (or whatever it is). The reason i like hammer&compass more than hammer&sickle is because there are not so many farmers any more, so why would there be sickle?

VukBZ2005
24th July 2004, 00:15
Yes - i'll try - however - i may need to upload to the server - which is unavailiable
at the moment. Any one interested in perchasing a domain name? i know where
they have some good deals - I'm sleeply here so i can't post that much details
about the website - but here is the developments so far -

1 - Website design Laid out
2 - Content Inserted
3 - In need of Server Space to place website
4 - Have Forum Software for Global Communist Coalition Site

VukBZ2005
24th July 2004, 00:18
Yes - i'll try - however - i may need to upload to the server - which is unavailiable
at the moment. Any one interested in perchasing a domain name? i know where
they have some good deals - I'm sleeply here so i can't post that much details
about the website - but here is the developments so far -

1 - Website design Laid out
2 - Content Inserted
3 - In need of Server Space to place website
4 - Have Forum Software for Global Communist Coalition Site


BTW - You can get these domain names at places like http://www.godaddy.com
or somewhere like that. - Sleepy time now... -_- -_-

VukBZ2005
24th July 2004, 00:30
Also as a note - Everybody may have to chip in - i now have to work
on this website 24/7 to make it look good, all for the Global Communist
Movement - Viva la Resistance!.... -_-

h&s
24th July 2004, 09:00
You're not serious about this are you?

VukBZ2005
24th July 2004, 12:32
Originally posted by hammer&[email protected] 24 2004, 09:00 AM
You're not serious about this are you?
I Am Serious about this!

rahul
26th July 2004, 14:11
yes,
there is a need for the website.

okey its not really an easy task to unite the commuists of world.......though their principles are same the ways which they follow are not alike.
sommunists even follow gandhian[peace ful] technichs of revolt
and some follow extrimist[=violent] methods

but lets make that possible!

VukBZ2005
21st November 2004, 00:48
Haha - This thread has not been updated for some time - but i still think it
is relevant to us as a whole - So i will update it.

I am also pleased to say that the Golbal Communist Coalition (GCC)
has been established - however we are still working on it's basic
infrastructure. :hammer: :)