Its all our fault.

[revolutionindia]

Each man is responsible for his own external affairs,conditions,and circumstances
for his character,qualities and tendencies ,for his mental ,moral,psychic and spiritual nature,upon every plane of consciousness.

He is likewise responsible for the effects of his thought and action on his fellow men ,and on the kingdoms below man;he cannot save himself at the expense of any other being ,nor can he have true happiness so long as any of his fellow-men suffer.

As he is self-conscous being with the power for acquiring qualities,and of manipoulating the lower natures,it devolves upon him to understand the nature of all things that he may use them beneficiantly.Only when the feeling of responsibility which is the beginning of selflessness moves men to clarification o their minds, and to conformity of feeling ,thought and act with the true rationale of life and this understanding be had.

So all ye people who think others doing drugs is not their problem think people should be left alone to do what they want because its their life are all horribally wrong and are just lazy and do'not care about their fellow human beings.

Hence the I don't care its his life attitude can be found among most of you people

This will take you nowhere

If someone you know is a druggie its because you did not try to stop him from doing drugs

Stand up ,be bold ,be strong!!!!
Take the whole responsibilty
on your own shoulders.!!!!!!

Do something for the druggies and other miserable people who you know
on this board and in real life

[The Feral Underclass]

blah blah blah blah blah!

[revolutionindia]

So what do we have here!!!

A druggie

So anarchist when are you going to stop doing drugs?
people like you have become an obstacle in my quest for
my Nirvana.
As long as there is suffering in this world I will not never be able to achieve nirvana

[fernando]

people are an obstacle for YOUR nirvana...YOUR goal, YOUR happiness...that sounds selfish to be, let people do drugs if they want to, and if they dont ,great then they dont take drugs

[revolutionindia]

I mean unhappy,miserable people are a obstacle to my nirvana

For as long as there is work to be done nirvana is meanignless and worthless

I can't possibaly attain nirvana in the midst of all this suffering in this world

So nirvana can wait

Revolution now!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[fernando]

you mean you want the world to attain nirvana....I mean you basicly want the world to become nirvana, a world where nobody would suffer.

But isnt suffering part of being human, I mean without suffering there might also be no delight

[revolutionindia]

Originally posted by [email protected] 9 2004, 11:35 PM


But isnt suffering part of being human, I mean without suffering there might also be no delight
I see your point

I think

This times that we live in are unique in human history

At this point of time there is enormous suffering in the world
This is an oppurtunity to liberate oneself from the cycles of rebirth and attain nirvana

For one's liberation one should serve society!!(Liberation not as in
George bush's liberation of iraq)

Imagine if you were born in a perfect world where everbody was happy?
Sooo scary

[DaCuBaN]

Do something for the druggies and other miserable people who you know
on this board and in real life

Which bit of "fuck off: we don't need nor want your help" did you not understand? Come anywhere near me with that attitude and I'll rip your tits off. :angry:

Drugs are down to the choice of the individual, and you have no place nor right to 'preach' otherwise - least of all for selfish reasons.

I hate to say it, but: FUCK OFF AND DIE.

[Urban Rubble]

God I'm so fucking sick of your preaching bullshit. It's to the point where I wish they would ban your moralist ass.


If someone you know is a druggie its because you did not try to stop him from doing drugs

I have a friend who got really strung out on crank (crystal meth). He was my best friend and I watched him go from smoking some every now and then to shooting up multiple times a day.

I warned him every day when he started that shit that it was going to lead him down a bad path. Every fucking day I preached at him and told him he was being an idiot. I did everything I could short of physically taking the needle out of his hand. There comes a point where you cannot do anymore, and then you have to let people do what they feel.

I agree with you in the sense that we should educate our fellow humans and help them with their problems, however, you can only go so far with that. At a certain point you have to let go and let people do what they want, think for themselves and make their own decisions.

You seem to think you've got it all figured out and it's your duty to make people conform to your own narrow beliefs. FUCK OFF, please.

[revolutionindia]

Ok :cool:

[revolutionindia]

Originally posted by Urban [email protected] 10 2004, 12:19 AM
God I'm so fucking sick of your preaching bullshit. It's to the point where I wish they would ban your moralist ass.



I have a friend who got really strung out on crank (crystal meth). He was my best friend and I watched him go from smoking some every now and then to shooting up multiple times a day.

I warned him every day when he started that shit that it was going to lead him down a bad path. Every fucking day I preached at him and told him he was being an idiot. I did everything I could short of physically taking the needle out of his hand. There comes a point where you cannot do anymore, and then you have to let people do what they feel.

I agree with you in the sense that we should educate our fellow humans and help them with their problems, however, you can only go so far with that. At a certain point you have to let go and let people do what they want, think for themselves and make their own decisions.

You seem to think you've got it all figured out and it's your duty to make people conform to your own narrow beliefs. FUCK OFF, please.
You are not a true friend.

People on this board beware of people who claim to be your best friend
yet watch you go up in smoke.

[revolutionindia]

I hate to say it, but: FUCK OFF AND DIE.



Die we all will my dear friend

Only difference is you will go up in smoke with your druggie friends and
will be born again and again,stuck in your cycle of rebirth.

I will walk a different path

[Y2A]

YOU NEED TO GET LAID!

[Raisa]

Originally posted by [email protected] 9 2004, 06:05 PM
you mean you want the world to attain nirvana....I mean you basicly want the world to become nirvana, a world where nobody would suffer.

But isnt suffering part of being human, I mean without suffering there might also be no delight
You are correct. There will always be suffering. But people dont need to inflict it on each other so our joy can matter.

There will always be stomach aches and broken bones.

I seen a documentary on a girl who cant feel any pain. Cuase she was born a certain way.
How many of you think you will enjoy this quality? To never feel pain?

In our childhoods, pain shows you to watch out so you can know fundamental things to take care of your body.
The little girl felt no pain, so she would just walk into the walls and bump her head.
She picked one of her eyes blind by herself, she chewed up her own hand.
All these harmful things that we would never do, and the little girl suffered from none of it so she had no reason to stop!
As a consiquence she will always be blind out of one eye now. Pain is a universal way to learn a lesson on what not to do.

[DaCuBaN]

Only difference is you will go up in smoke with your druggie friends and
will be born again and again,stuck in your cycle of rebirth

So... your religion basically says I can smoke, but I'll die and come back to do it all again?

I'm converted ! :lol:

[fernando]

Originally posted by [email protected] 10 2004, 05:02 PM
You are correct. There will always be suffering. But people dont need to inflict it on each other so our joy can matter.

There will always be stomach aches and broken bones.

I seen a documentary on a girl who cant feel any pain. Cuase she was born a certain way.
How many of you think you will enjoy this quality? To never feel pain?

In our childhoods, pain shows you to watch out so you can know fundamental things to take care of your body.
The little girl felt no pain, so she would just walk into the walls and bump her head.
She picked one of her eyes blind by herself, she chewed up her own hand.
All these harmful things that we would never do, and the little girl suffered from none of it so she had no reason to stop!
As a consiquence she will always be blind out of one eye now. Pain is a universal way to learn a lesson on what not to do.
life without pain must be torture too...I mean the curiousity of what pain is could drive one mad I guess

[Bolshevist]

I know revolutionindia's secret. its drugs. revolutionindia is a drug abuser. who knew.

[Capitalist Imperial]

Originally posted by [email protected] 10 2004, 07:20 PM

So... your religion basically says I can smoke, but I'll die and come back to do it all again?

I'm converted ! :lol:
LOL, good one.

[Y2A]

RI is one of thousands of losers that thinks they "need to find themselves". The "cutie pie"(as CI would say) even went to U-P searching for indians, how pathetic.

[insurgency03]

Do something for the druggies and other miserable people who you know
on this board and in real life

hey what gives u or any1 the right to say that doing drugs is right or wrong, to each his own,let people live the lives they were given and try to live yours in the best way u know how 2.

[Y2A]

*tips hat to clever mod*

[Stapler]

psychic, eh? you've just permanently discredited yourself.

[Raisa]

Originally posted by [email protected] 9 2004, 05:25 PM
So what do we have here!!!

A druggie

So anarchist when are you going to stop doing drugs?
people like you have become an obstacle in my quest for
my Nirvana.

Your an obstacle in the quest for your own nirvana.

YOUR RELIGON IS YOUR DRUGS, YOU JUNKIE!

[revolutionindia]

Originally posted by [email protected] 11 2004, 12:47 PM
psychic, eh? you've just permanently discredited yourself.
I did not claim to be pyshic all i say is people possess various degree's of
intitutive power.

some know about it some don't

[revolutionindia]

Great so you all think I am on drugs <_<

That&#39;s ridiculous,is all I can say

The problem with drug users is that don&#39;t confine to drugging themselves
but spread it like a disease,a cancer, first it&#39;s benign addiction then it gets malignant
Most of you never started drugs on your own you all were probably introduced to drugs by some drug user you knew

You all will in all probability spread the drug culture to younger and innocent victims
with promises that range from doing drugs feels like heaven and there are no side effects and it&#39;s not addictive

And before anyone knows it you start selling him drugs and making a quick profit
for your own drugs

These converted druggies pass it to the next generation and the vicious cycle goes on.

Under the influence of drugs people have know to conduct bizzare and heinous acts which range from murders,rapes to bizzare sex practices.

Druggies are actually manifestations of symptoms of societal problems.

Society has failed in nipping the problem at the bud

To solve the problem at the root one needs to have strong family institutions that
will serve as foundations of a good drug free life.

Along with a sound educational system and strict law enforcement this problem can be controlled but eliminating it will not be easy

The fact that drug abuse is a problem need not be debated,it&#39;s a known fact what needs to be debated are the steps needed to be taken to curb this menace and
prevent this cancer from consuming more innocent victims

A question to all druggies
Once upon a time you all were drug free don&#39;t you miss those days ?
NO really don&#39;t some of you feel drugs are controlling you ?

[Hiero]

Revolutionindia you cant do anything.

[revolutionindia]

I can to start of with heres a poem

This Poem is dedicated to all druggie commies

DRUGCOMMIE

All ye comies who preach "Religion is the opiate of masses"
and consume drugs as the time passes
Know who you are
Who are you?
A hypocrite, you are
Your words hold no meaning
Your talk is meandering
It s the gods in the skies you claim
when its the drugs in your pocket to blame

[__ca va?]

Under the influence of drugs people have know to conduct bizzare and heinous acts which range from murders,rapes to bizzare sex practices.

Hey&#33;&#33; It was YOU who wrote the Kama Sutra&#33;&#33;&#33; :lol: :lol: :lol:

Okay, so here&#39;s my opinion of drugs: i&#39;m not taking drugs nor i will. I won&#39;t try to tell you not to go on with drug abuse, it would make no sense, but I am really against drugs, because it can be good but just while it&#39;s you who control the needle and not the needle that controls you&#33; Cuz when I say that people must make their own decisions and it&#39;s only you who may control your life, I mean it, and after being an addict it&#39;s not you who&#39;s making the decisions.

[revolutionindia]

NO this line that people draw differ s from person to person
You should use your judgement to determine where you need to draw the line

There is no difference between a drowning man and
person addicted to drugs,both are headed oneway which is down

Yet you will help a drowning man risking your own life and say that a
druggie should be left alone

Strange are the ways of the world :rolleyes:

[Stapler]

You fail to understand that people choose to do what they do. There is no purple kangaroo that forces them to smoke drugs, rape, pillage, and plunder.

[DaCuBaN]

If someone came to you and said "I&#39;m going to jump in this river and drown myself because I no longer wish to live and have always wanted to die in this manner" would you reject them?

The choice of the individual is just that, and we cannot allow ourselves to act against their wishes. Words have no tangible power but to physically stop someone from persueing their own goals surely cannot be &#39;right&#39;

[Guerrilla22]

Originally posted by [email protected] 11 2004, 08:10 AM
Your an obstacle in the quest for your own nirvana.

YOUR RELIGON IS YOUR DRUGS, YOU JUNKIE&#33;
Raisa is so right, RI you are dilluting your brain with the cultist, phenomona that is organized. Indeed, organized religon is the opiate of the masses.

[revolutionindia]

No body liked my poem <_<

[DaCuBaN]

Great so you all think I am [religious]

That&#39;s ridiculous,is all I can say

The problem with [the religious] is that don&#39;t confine to [indoctrinating] themselves
but spread it like a disease,a cancer, first it&#39;s benign addiction then it gets malignant
Most of you never started [religion] on your own you all were probably introduced to [religion] by some [nut]you knew

You all will in all probability spread the [bullshit] to younger and innocent victims
with promises that range from [...] heaven and there are no side effects and it&#39;s not addictive

And before anyone knows it you start [...] making a quick profit
for your own [religion]

These converted [nuts] pass it to the next generation and the vicious cycle goes on.

Under the influence of [indoctrination] people have know to conduct bizzare and heinous acts which range from murders,rapes to bizzare sex practices.

[religious nuts] are actually manifestations of symptoms of societal problems.

Society has failed in nipping the problem at the bud

To solve the problem at the root one needs to [abandon] strong family institutions that will serve as foundations of a good [bullshit] free life.

Along with a sound educational system [...] this problem can be controlled but eliminating it will not be easy

The fact that [religion] is a problem need not be debated,it&#39;s a known fact what needs to be debated are the steps needed to be taken to curb this menace and
prevent this cancer from consuming more innocent victims
[...]
NO really don&#39;t some of you feel [religion is] controlling you ?


:)

[Soul Rebel]

The problem with drug users is that don&#39;t confine to drugging themselves but spread it like a disease,a cancer, first it&#39;s benign addiction then it gets malignant
Most of you never started drugs on your own you all were probably introduced to drugs by some drug user you knew

So its kind of like religion.

One person starts a set of ideas, tells other people, these people soon begin preaching, it reaches the masses, those who believe it are brainwashed and controlled by it, and it goes on and on. Before you know- religion is everything to them. It explains everything for them, makes their decisions, shapes their thinking, influences how they act towards others, etc. These people basically lose control to their religion. It is more powerful to them than anything else.


That&#39;s ridiculous,is all I can say

What&#39;s ridiculous is your preaching.

You all will in all probability spread the drug culture to younger and innocent victims with promises that range from doing drugs feels like heaven and there are no side effects and it&#39;s not addictive

Kind of like people spread religion. One religious fanatic will preach to another innocent person promising safety, love, guidance, health, etc. from a "higher power." The only catch is that they have to act in the way that the religion requires. If you act properly there will be an endless amount of benefits. So, you have a bunch of people acting like fools, with no idea who they are, afraid to sin or follow their true instinct in order to get those rewards that were promised to them. So, in a way it becomes addictive because the religion is controlling them and their everyday lives.


And before anyone knows it you start selling him drugs and making a quick profit for your own drugs

Or standing on street corners passing out religious pamphlets trying to recruit people to your side to spread the word about your beliefs. The more people you have to back up your beliefs the more power you have in this society. So your recruiting is to benefit your feeling of power and belief system, not because you truly care about these people or the world around you.

These converted druggies pass it to the next generation and the vicious cycle goes on.

As religious groups have done. Passing on their bs stories and thoughts, brainwashing everyone, starting wars with people who do not agree, etc. They pass on their ways to younger generations which has led to hatred among people and fighting for centuries. It will never stop until the intolerance they have is done with.

Under the influence of drugs people have know to conduct bizzare and heinous acts which range from murders,rapes to bizzare sex practices.

Under the influence of religion people have been known to act bizzare as well: starting wars, raping enemy womyn, killing off whole populations, spreading disease, punishing entire groups, genicide, and the list goes on.

Druggies are actually manifestations of symptoms of societal problems.

As are religious fanatics who turned to their religion for a "sign" in their life. They think it will solve their problems, when the reality is that their religion is often part of the problem. Rather than think from a regular human perspective (what is best for the population) they think in terms of what their religion would think is best. This has caused so many problems: illegal abortion, wars, homophobia, maltreatment of womyn, etc.

Society has failed in nipping the problem at the bud

Just like it has done with religion. It has failed to have a seperation of church and state, for example. It has allowed for religion to dictate what is right or wrong, influence our laws, etc.

To solve the problem at the root one needs to have strong family institutions that will serve as foundations of a good drug free life.

What we need is a society that actually puts human needs such as food, water, shelter, medicine, etc. before religious agendas. We need a society that actually cares for its people.

Along with a sound educational system and strict law enforcement this problem can be controlled but eliminating it will not be easy

With stricter laws prohibiting interference of religion with the state things may get better.

[Eastside Revolt]

Originally posted by [email protected] 11 2004, 11:15 AM
Great so you all think I am on drugs <_<

That&#39;s ridiculous,is all I can say

The problem with drug users is that don&#39;t confine to drugging themselves
but spread it like a disease,a cancer, first it&#39;s benign addiction then it gets malignant
Most of you never started drugs on your own you all were probably introduced to drugs by some drug user you knew

Cancer isn&#39;t contageous, so forgetting your lame metaphor I&#39;ll answer your question:

"A question to all druggies
Once upon a time you all were drug free don&#39;t you miss those days ?
NO really don&#39;t some of you feel drugs are controlling you ?"


Once upon a time, I was mind altering "drug free". Back then people accused me of taking drugs just because I was so strange. Now days, I can walk through life, knowing how stupid the people are who shun drug users. Most of the time, the people go around saying my problems are because of drugs, are wrong because I had the same problems long before I became a "druggie".

[Nas]

revolutionindia , im no druggie but i think you are coming on a little too strong

what revolutionindia said on his first post is kind of right, if you want to help your self, you need to start taking some actions

ps: i dont think there is nothing wrong with a "communist" who does drugs , as long as he is no crackhead or addict

[DaCuBaN]

When drugs become the driving force in your life; when they inhibit your abilities they should be expunged. Provided you are always responsible for your actions, then where is the problem?

[Y2A]

Why don&#39;t people understand the difference between drug use and drug addiction?

[MiDnIgHtMaRaUdEr]

I say that people have a moral responsibility to help one another. If someone is about to jump off a bridge and commit suicide, then each individual has the responsibility to try and help that person and talk them down, try to confort them, try to give them the help they need, or even medication. If someone is suffering from a drug addiction, then society has the responsibility to see that the individual gets strightened out through therapy and counceling to get their lives back on track. Throwing a person who uses drugs away for their entire lives does nothing to help that individual, nor will it prove to be constrictive to society in any way, conversly, I do not believe that allowing a drug trade in society will prove to be beneficial to the interests of the people either. Stomping around the world burning drug farms will not solve the problem, and locking people up will not solve the problem. The solution lies in educating people as to the dangers of drugs, and monitoring the streets to see who is responsible for the trade of drugs in society.

[__ca va?]

Why don&#39;t people understand the difference between drug use and drug addiction?

Briefly, this is exactly what I was talking about :)


I say that people have a moral responsibility to help one another. If someone is about to jump off a bridge and commit suicide, then each individual has the responsibility to try and help that person and talk them down, try to confort them, try to give them the help they need, or even medication. If someone is suffering from a drug addiction, then society has the responsibility to see that the individual gets strightened out through therapy and counceling to get their lives back on track. Throwing a person who uses drugs away for their entire lives does nothing to help that individual, nor will it prove to be constrictive to society in any way, conversly, I do not believe that allowing a drug trade in society will prove to be beneficial to the interests of the people either.

Strongly disagree
Disagree
Agree
Strongly agree :)


Stomping around the world burning drug farms will not solve the problem, and locking people up will not solve the problem. The solution lies in educating people as to the dangers of drugs, and monitoring the streets to see who is responsible for the trade of drugs in society.

Education is okay, but monitoring the streets seems drastic to me.
:hammer:



:hammer:

[revolutionindia]

Sorry it took so long ,I had some problems any way

This goes out to Dacuban and Senorche

Suppose if for a very small period of time I
agree to all what you say and accept that god does not exist and
religion needs to be done away with .

What will happen?

If religion and the concept of god is eliminated what
will be the consequences on mankind?

Will people live happily ever after ?NO

The truth is religion is not inherently oppresive
It&#39;s people who are oppressive

Religion does not oppress people ,it&#39;s people who use religion to
oppress other people
Once religion is done away with people will invent something new to
oppress people

It&#39;s people who are evil .

For a brief moment of time stalin represented communism.
Does this mean all he did in the name of communism is the true nature of
communism?
Does this mean communism is evil?

Ditto with Capitalism
Capitalism is not evil it&#39;s the people who control capitalism who are evil.

It&#39;s religion alone that promotes the all round development of an individual something that capitalism and communism only brush through?

I don&#39;t know what problems you guys have with the church but I
face no such problems with my religion it does not interfere with the
state nor does
it preach morality.

Hinduism was never about morality or conservativeness and blind worship

If it was there was no way Kamasutra could be written
and temples(Khajarahou) having sexual positons on their walls be built.

In fact hindu gods had relations with many women(Krishna)

There is also a branch of atheism in hinduism called caraka

There are even some yogic practises that advocate the use of drugs
for practice(tantra)

The conservatism and morality issues present in indian society are
a result of the the muslim rule(Mughal empire) victorian madness and the conlonial hangover(British rule)

But does this mean that indians should revert back to their old ways?NO

A lot has changed since the olden days and before we come back to our old ways
a lot of cleaning and restructuring needs to be done .
Failing which we will only aggravate the problems faced by society

Most of you do not understand the country or the society I live in,its
problems and solutions can only be know and understood by those who view it at close quarters.

Whenever I try to post my thoughts on this forum I feel like I am trying to make a river flow thorough a thin straw.What comes out is only silt and muddy water

The keyboard and my typing speed severly limits my ability to express my opinion and I
end up presenting information that follows a hap hazard pattern and at times
sound pretty bad

So till we all get a better medium to debate

please excuse

[scrap metal]

To those who say that "Drugs are a choice of the individual" you are correct, it is your choice, and yous alone.

But to those who say that it doesn&#39;t harm anyone, you&#39;re foolish, and to those who thinks it doesn&#39;t harm anyone but yourself, you&#39;re foolish and it denial, far worse.

The solution?

If you don&#39;t do drugs, completely seperate yourself from everyone who does. If you do drugs, completely seperate yourself from everyone who doesn&#39;t, that way when (not if) you OD , or get killed in a deal, or wind up homeless, or get mentally disabled, no one except your stoner-loser friends will have to feel sorry for you, and the non-users don&#39;t have to waste time weeping for loved ones loswt to drugs.

[Guerrilla22]

[QUOTE]If religion and the concept of god is eliminated what
will be the consequences on mankind?

Will people live happily ever after ?NO

The truth is religion is not inherently oppresive
It&#39;s people who are oppressive


First off, you sound like a preacher, trying to warn civillization that if we are without god, we are all doomed. The truth is there is no god, religion is just another device created by the aristocracy to control the general population.

[revolutionindia]

Did I mention that " mankind is Doomed without god "anywhere in my post?
Why do you make such a prepostrous assumption?

Mankind is eternal

You are religiophobic,

[MiDnIgHtMaRaUdEr]

revolutionindia....you are totally hopeless...

[revolutionindia]

But MM there is still hope for you

[DaCuBaN]

It&#39;s people who are evil .


I&#39;ve abbreviated your post: I&#39;m sure you&#39;ll agree this is the heart of your argument.

I in a sense agree: it is not &#39;religion&#39; that caused the inquisition to begin in Spain; the crusades to take place but the individuals involved. It&#39;s much like the idea of gun control: It&#39;s about taking away the tool that so many use for &#39;evil&#39;.

If you wish to believe that the world was created by some omnicogniscant entity then that&#39;s fine, for me the jury is very much still out. What I object to is the willingness of many religious peoples to be unknowing pawns.

What you seem to have failed to realise is that my argument for restriction of religion is as valid as that for restriction of drug use. Although they don&#39;t do any real harm on the individual level, they create many enduring social problems. Whether it be Alcohol or Atheism; Heroin or Hinduism; Cocaine or Christianity, it&#39;s all the same. It&#39;s simply a form of escapism, and requires treating. Restricting it isn&#39;t treating the problem, it&#39;s ignoring it and hoping it goes away.

[revolutionindia]

Equating religion with drugs is wrong

Some say actions are louder than words
Let&#39;s see if I ever become a part or witness to events that
confirm or prove the positive aspects of religion in which I believe
I will let you know and then this arguemtn will continue

Till then let this discussion end,I have really run out of ammunition

[DaCuBaN]

Equating religion with drugs is wrong

Why is it &#39;wrong&#39;? I&#39;m simply drawing a parallel between the two &#39;institutions&#39;. If you were to say you didn&#39;t like it, I would let it pass. Subjectivism prevents this statement from holding any weight.

I don&#39;t consider religion &#39;wrong&#39;, I merely believe it has repurcussions that could and should be avoided, and the same applies to drugs despite the fact that I am a frequent &#39;toker&#39;. I recognise that both are social problems that require dealt with, but you seem to refuse to accept that restricting people from doing something doesn&#39;t solve anything

Doesn&#39;t it say something that the US constitution has only been amended on three occasions? Two of them linked to the prohibition of alcohol - to enact and then counteract it. Prohibition doesn&#39;t work.


Till then let this discussion end,I have really run out of ammunition

Some would say this is defeat, but I consider myself a &#39;sporting chap&#39; so by all means re-arm. You never know, it may well result in my demise. :D

[revolutionindia]

Rules of Guerilla Warfare

1.When you run out of ammunition
run away and live to fight another day ;)

There will be another day my dear friend and I
promise you I will try to make it a Glorious one

[Urban Rubble]

If you don&#39;t do drugs, completely seperate yourself from everyone who does. If you do drugs, completely seperate yourself from everyone who doesn&#39;t, that way when (not if) you OD , or get killed in a deal, or wind up homeless, or get mentally disabled, no one except your stoner-loser friends will have to feel sorry for you, and the non-users don&#39;t have to waste time weeping for loved ones loswt to drugs.

Yep, because when I see a homeless guy, I always think "That guy is where he is because of Marijuana".

By the way, I&#39;ve smoked to the point where I physically could not do it anymore, suprise suprise, I never OD&#39;d on pot.

[Guerrilla22]

Originally posted by [email protected] 18 2004, 04:39 AM
Did I mention that " mankind is Doomed without god "anywhere in my post?
Why do you make such a prepostrous assumption?

Mankind is eternal

You are religiophobic,
Yeah that&#39;s prett much what you did say, did you not see that I took a quotation from your previous thread. I have to argue that you can make the comparison between drug addicts and those who buy into organized religion.

A drug addict uses because he feels that he needs an escape, or physoclogically feels that he is not alone when he is using. This is why people adhere to organized religion. Individuals feel that they are not alone.part of something an also feel that their religion will give them an escape after their lifw is over, whether you believe in heaven, or Nirvana or whatever.

[CubanFox]

Originally posted by [email protected] 18 2004, 01:51 PM
Capitalism is not evil it&#39;s the people who control capitalism who are evil.
Bzzzt&#33;

Capitalism is evil. It&#39;s like fascism, there aren&#39;t any good intentions anywhere. The entire purpose is to exploit people to make money.

[Crusader 4 da truth]

The confusion that arose from your post can be attributed to your philosophy being inconstant. Allow me to illustrate.

Originally posted by revolutionindia
Each man is responsible for his own external affairs,conditions,and circumstances
for his character,qualities and tendencies ,for his mental ,moral,psychic and spiritual nature,upon every plane of consciousness.

He is likewise responsible for the effects of his thought and action on his fellow men ,and on the kingdoms below man;he cannot save himself at the expense of any other being ,nor can he have true happiness so long as any of his fellow-men suffer.
These are interesting statements, in that they are incongruent. Either the individual is responsible or we are all responsible for each other, ie society at large. But both can not wholly be responsible for a persons actions, it’s a logical impossibility. You may wish to qualify that statement by creating a percentage, something like you are 50% responsible for you actions and society is responsible for the other 50%. However, it becomes readily apparent how ludicrous quantifying human action is. Thus one is either responsible for him or herself or some other entity is, most collectivist choice the later.

In essence they are arguing that some else owns your life, the consequence of this line of thought is profound, and has been the reasoning that underscores every totalitarian society that has existed from Nazis to USSR.

Only the individual can make the choice whether or not to abuse drugs, regardless of what government officials, or “society” at large says. This does not mean one should be a bad friend and ignore someone’s addiction. However as anyone that’s been through recovery will tell you it often takes hitting rock bottom before a person wants to change, no one else can make that choice.

[DaCuBaN]

as anyone that’s been through recovery will tell you it often takes hitting rock bottom before a person wants to change, no one else can make that choice

You&#39;ve summarised the reaction to RI quite well: If you attack something that is fundamental to someone&#39;s existence - even if it is detrimental to themselves; society; morality; existence is of no consequence. You may as well attack the person themselves.