This is my idea

[Subversive Pessimist]

Okay, here's my plan...

We (communists, and anarchists) buy an island, or perhaps an area in a relatively primitive country. We all move to this area. When we are many, we can start either producing weapons, or smuggle them in from (in example) Cuba.

The society will be based on the principles of anarchism/communism.

If we are enough people, we just ignore what the so-called government says, or, if we are superior in weapons and military, we can announce it is our territory. If they try to invade, we will defend our territory with the workers milita.

From here, we can make our own society, and we will have a stronger influence in the world. People around the world will search on our ideology, and they can become new members of our society, and will further advance class struggle.

I know it isn't bulletproof, but it's better then the usual choices, because:

1. We can't force people to be free. We can only educate them.
2. A vanguard party will not work. History has proven this.
3. It could work

Tips? Hints? Critics? Developments on my idea? :)

[frankiegoestostoke]

How would the leadership of the island work? Sounds like a power vacuum that could be very easily exploited to me.

[Socialsmo o Muerte]

Buying land from what you call a "relatively primitive country" you say?

How very left wing of you.

Sounds like that latest Barclaycard incentive where you can "Win an Island".

What about the people who fought for that land and the independance of their control over it.

I'm taking over nobody's land or country but my own.

[che-Rabbi]

Thats sorta what the pilgrims did and now look how messed the U.S. is.
We cant keep running from our social problems. We must first repair Americas morality , then
we cant talk about this idea of individual lands to taylor your beliefs.

[Cheech06]

Heres my plan!! Take notes....we launch a revolution against a hated dictator in latin america, just like fidel did to batista in cuba. Then people from the country will recognize our struggle and fight along with us. We will win the war and quickly stabilize the economy....if you have noticed the economy is everything. Strength lies in the economy. We will then launch revolutions from the liberated country against neighbors. We ask for aid from the soviets, probrably for defending the country, but also the economy. There will be a limit to power for the dictator and it will slowly be let into a democratic society. With all of this done, we will end poverty and injustice!! what do u think?

[frankiegoestostoke]

We ask for aid from the soviets

Are you referring to the socialist committee things, or the plural form of people from the USSR?

[Pawn Power]

dident you already have this idea here (http://www.che-lives.com/forum/index.php?showtopic=26551&hl=) :huh:

[Cheech06]

Are you referring to the socialist committee things, or the plural form of people from the USSR?

The answer to your question is whatever of the two options is better... But what do yall think about my idea? Justice, about the island... its goin to be a hell of a lot of money, and the person who puts more money in the island is goin to have this thing in his head that since he put more money than most people, hes goin to want things to go his way. People will disagree and the whole thing will fall apart...I dont think it would work, but keep on thinkin bud.
-peace

[Comrade Mathew]

if you really start a revolutionary movement (with plans for the new government) and you need support than say so... in a few years when i'm dont with the army i will be happy to support you...

[Cheech06]

if you really start a revolutionary movement (with plans for the new government) and you need support than say so... in a few years when i'm dont with the army i will be happy to support you...

Ill give you a call, but i want to make this clear...Individualism needs to end!!! im just 16 and still can mold my life into whatever i want to, but maybe some of yall are a bit older and have to work and stuff to live, but dont worry, when everything starts rolling, yall can be help to the revolution, and yes...it will happen. And justice, about the island...i was thinkin bout it, and it occured to me...if we can afford and island...its not goin to be big. So all the u.s. would have to do to get rid of us is to drop a bomb on us!!

[rahul]

great idea!

but how are we going to work out?

is it easy?

then lets do it......

[Nas]

is this a game?

[rahul]

no,
its not a game!
idea is really beautiful but with some utopia.
ok,.........redy to practice it comrades?

[Subversive Pessimist]

i was thinkin bout it, and it occured to me...if we can afford and island...its not goin to be big. So all the u.s. would have to do to get rid of us is to drop a bomb on us!!


That's true. Actually, I think we have to do what Castro and Che did. We just have to make sure that we have enough revolutionaries in order to take 'em out, and we need to remove a really sick dictator, not some santa claus. It got to be a country where they need liberation. We saw how well it went in Cuba, and how bad it went in Bolivia. If the people are opressed, they will join us.

[Frederick_Engles]

nice idea but
1) you would need to buy a VERY large island
2) nearly everywhere that can be produced for crops in the world allready is
3) use the money to buy guns and just take controll of some shitty Arfican country

[rahul]

Originally posted by [email protected] 27 2004, 02:46 AM
nice idea but
1) you would need to buy a VERY large island
2) nearly everywhere that can be produced for crops in the world allready is
3) use the money to buy guns and just take controll of some shitty Arfican country
if really we want to get on in to an isolated place then instead of island a desert/forest/.......even a city [if we disguise our self] can be used