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Y2A
3rd July 2004, 19:25
Now, I was very much for the introduction of Canadian drugs to the American people. Being that it costs drastically less then American drugs. I do agree that many times those that argue against Canadian drugs being sold to Americans are U.S protectionists that only want to protect the American pharmaceutical industry. However, some do make good arguments against the introduction of Canadian drugs. The most logical argument of course is who will do R&D. American pharmaceutical companies spend as much as 40% of there profits on R&D. Millions of dollars are used to discover new medicines by the U.S pharmaceutical industries thus it leads to higher prices for medicine to pay for R&D. Countries like Canada don't have to do this because they can just produce what U.S companies make without having to pay for R&D, thus making it cheaper on the market. But let's assume that we do allow trade without restrictions and let the Canucks opperate in the U.S. They would most likely crush American companies. American companies would be forced to lower prices on drugs to compete against the Canucks, thus cutting drastically on R&D and slowing down progress in the medical field. I am not a protectionist and do believe that the Canucks should opperate in the States. However it is not fair that the U.S pharmaceutical industry should have to pay for R&D while the Canadians just profit off of it. This burden should be shared equally if the Canadians wish to opperate in the U.S.

Y2A
4th July 2004, 06:07
What? You guys only respond to threads about Che?

Pale Rider
12th August 2004, 00:09
Yeah...in the long run, drugs from canada coming back here will hurt the entire world. Whether anyone cares to admit it or not, the entire world depends upon R&D in the US for new and effective drugs...it costs a lot of money and there simply is no way around it.

I have leukemia..and I am in remission due to a new class of drugs called monoclonal antibodies...If I were in Canada, or most of Europe, I would simply have to die, because the manufacturer of this drug simply won't sell it at the prices that the governments want it fixed at...

There are a large number of drugs that aren't available in nations with socialized medicine...canada is about 10 years behind us, some european countries are further than that...cut the funds for R&D, or take away the profit motive for new drugs and it won't be long before we will have cut off our nose to spite our face.

Capitalist Imperial
12th August 2004, 18:45
Originally posted by Pale [email protected] 12 2004, 12:09 AM
Yeah...in the long run, drugs from canada coming back here will hurt the entire world. Whether anyone cares to admit it or not, the entire world depends upon R&D in the US for new and effective drugs...it costs a lot of money and there simply is no way around it.

I have leukemia..and I am in remission due to a new class of drugs called monoclonal antibodies...If I were in Canada, or most of Europe, I would simply have to die, because the manufacturer of this drug simply won't sell it at the prices that the governments want it fixed at...

There are a large number of drugs that aren't available in nations with socialized medicine...canada is about 10 years behind us, some european countries are further than that...cut the funds for R&D, or take away the profit motive for new drugs and it won't be long before we will have cut off our nose to spite our face.
Isn't "Canadian Drugs" a misnomer?

I mean, for the most part, don't they just buy American drugs, or replications of American developed pharmeceuticals?

ComradeChris
12th August 2004, 18:50
Go Canadian drugs! BC hydroponic pot rules. Nice and smooth and you get a good high. ;) One of my favourite quotes: "why can't we just get a bong." :D Instead of fighting wars, or arguing each other, if we all just got high, we'd be laughing with one another rather than against.

Capitalist Imperial
12th August 2004, 18:55
Originally posted by [email protected] 12 2004, 06:50 PM
Go Canadian drugs! BC hydroponic pot rules. Nice and smooth and you get a good high. ;) One of my favourite quotes: "why can't we just get a bong." :D Instead of fighting wars, or arguing each other, if we all just got high, we'd be laughing with one another rather than against.
And we'd be just about as productive as a communist society.

ComradeChris
13th August 2004, 18:50
Originally posted by Capitalist [email protected] 12 2004, 06:55 PM
And we'd be just about as productive as a communist society.
I'm all for drugs (the natural ones; man-made ones are stupid). Don't let it interefere with your work life though. :rolleyes: Because someone smokes pot doesn't mean they do it 24-7, and if they do, then they need help.

Y2A
14th August 2004, 06:33
Originally posted by [email protected] 13 2004, 06:50 PM
I'm all for drugs (the natural ones; man-made ones are stupid). Don't let it interefere with your work life though. :rolleyes: Because someone smokes pot doesn't mean they do it 24-7, and if they do, then they need help.
It's those imbeciles that make up the argument against legalization of drugs. I do agree that soft drugs should be legalized not hard drugs. But, that's not the topic of the thread.

Osman Ghazi
14th August 2004, 22:25
Well the way I see it, American pharmaceutical companies are being given huge subsidies already, so it isn't like they would actually be at risk of going out of business. Plus, the farther south you go, (in the states) the less competitive Canadian drugs become. It wouldn't be as much of a risk as you guys seem to think.

Y2A
15th August 2004, 09:36
Originally posted by Osman [email protected] 14 2004, 10:25 PM
Well the way I see it, American pharmaceutical companies are being given huge subsidies already, so it isn't like they would actually be at risk of going out of business. Plus, the farther south you go, (in the states) the less competitive Canadian drugs become. It wouldn't be as much of a risk as you guys seem to think.
I'm for letting Canuck drugs into this country, I'm just pointing out a valid attack against it.

Osman Ghazi
15th August 2004, 14:23
Well I say let their profits and R&D money come from their huge government subsidies; let America say that they are leading the world in biotechnology. It matters not to me.

Guerrilla22
16th August 2004, 07:38
Originally posted by Capitalist [email protected] 12 2004, 06:55 PM
Isn't "Canadian Drugs" a misnomer?
Yeah, unfortunately, you are right here. There aren't Canadian drugs, the drugs they sell in Canada are almost all made by US pharmacuetical companies, the reason these drugs cost so much less in Canada is because :

A. The high prices of drugs in the US make up for the research and development that the pharmacuetical companies have to do and perhaps even more so, B. because the entire country of Canada is on a government health care plan and the government refuses to pay extravagant amounts for drugs.