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Latin American Socialist
3rd July 2004, 01:27
People are saying that Marcos just wants to get famous now, that he doesn't care about the natives anymore. Do you think Maros still care about the natives or do you think that he only cares about being famous.

Pedro Alonso Lopez
3rd July 2004, 13:23
Have you seen his face lately?

fernando
3rd July 2004, 13:39
he wants to get famous? doesnt care? where did you hear/read that?

Latin American Socialist
3rd July 2004, 14:52
he wants to get famous? doesnt care? where did you hear/read that?
in mexico everywhere, the critics, the news. They all say he hasnt done anything for the natives, that he just wanted to get rich and famous.


Have you seen his face lately?

No, how does his face look like? you got a picture?

Pedro Alonso Lopez
3rd July 2004, 15:00
He never shows his face, that was the hint that he didnt want to be known, few people know what he looks like beyond the mask.

Latin American Socialist
3rd July 2004, 15:05
i know that.

socialistfuture
3rd July 2004, 16:38
of cause the media in mexico will demonize him and try to draw attention away from the messages and the real issues.

Viva la revolucion!!! Viva la zapatista!!!

Pedro Alonso Lopez
3rd July 2004, 17:28
Well if you know he dosent show his face and then obviously that nobody really knows who he is beyond imagery then how can you say he is seeking fame, being recognized being the fundamental principle of fame.

Ya Basta sf!

Latin American Socialist
3rd July 2004, 17:33
There he is peoople, there is subcomandante marcos without his mask.

socialistfuture
4th July 2004, 08:23
i dont think that is him.

the mexican government said they knew who he was - and said this story to try discredit him. where did u get the picture from?

fernando
4th July 2004, 11:39
They are telling this because they are trying to demoralize the Zapatistas

Purple
4th July 2004, 14:32
its impossible that that is marcos... the reason for the mask is not to be recognised, then to be killed, as previous leaders, so i doubt he wants fame and fortune just for himself...

Latin American Socialist
4th July 2004, 16:05
ok

Pawn Power
4th July 2004, 19:56
Originally posted by El [email protected] 3 2004, 01:27 AM
People are saying that Marcos just wants to get famous now, that he doesn't care about the natives anymore. Do you think Maros still care about the natives or do you think that he only cares about being famous.
wow.. that is hard to belive


in mexico everywhere, the critics, the news. They all say he hasnt done anything for the natives, that he just wanted to get rich and famous.

dont trust the news

:ph34r:

insurgency03
8th July 2004, 07:07
big media is the favored tool of the elite, if it has a news ticker, dont trust thats what i always say, ive heard these rumors too, my uncle even told me he has his own talk show( isnt that the biggest crock of shit uve ever heard)

Hiero
8th July 2004, 11:54
Being revolutionary and being a famours one is excaclty like being holywood famous.

Daniel Karssenberg
8th July 2004, 22:31
Maybe he wants to get "famous" in order to attract more people to his (or their, whomever they may be) cause.
However I do believe that also his rebel group is corrupted, and that he surely has a lot of self-interest. The conservatives are hearing the black side of this and ignore the white, but most of you only listen to the white and say all black is impossible or plain propaganda. Hard to discuss with a lack of openness...

Latin American Socialist
10th July 2004, 01:16
I just finished reading Our word is our weapon and i realized what marcos is. I talked this over with the EZLN and they have agreed. Subcomandante Marcos is nobody, he is a mascot, a idol, marcos isnt one person. Marcos is all EZLN, he is EZLN. That man you see in the ski-mask is just a actor. The ski-masked, big nosed, white, green-eyed man is not marcos. He is marcos' representitive. If you say that marcos is an anarchist, communist, or etc, your saying that the EZLN is an anarchist, communist, or etc. I will compare marcos to god, some believe god is a white bearded man in heaven, some believe he is heaven. Some believe marcos is a green eyed mexican who is in the zapatistas, some believe he is the zapatista. I believe he is the zapatista. Like Comandante Esther (supposedly the leader of the zapatistas), She was just a lie, there was no comandante esther, she was made up to get people to stop asking who is marcos. Nobody can answer who is marcos. If they ask the EZLN who is marcos, they simply say marcos is the zapatistas. This guy behind the mask is playing the role as marcos. Marcos is 21 years old, the man behind the mask is probably in his middle ages.

oh yea, back to topic, marcos probably wants fame to inform people of the zapatistas.

Regicidal Insomniac
10th July 2004, 03:18
If I wanted to get famous I may begin by telling people my real name, or letting them see my face. Or talking about myself.
If Marcos is truly trying to get famous, he's doing a lame job.

Cooler Reds Will Prevail
12th July 2004, 05:04
If he were to try to become rich by what he's doing, he's in the wrong field. Leading a movement of poor oppressed peasants isn't going to make you a wealthy person. And looking for fame? I doubt it. What would fame gain him, especially given the fact that nobody knows what he looks like. It's not like he can be walking down the street and people will stop and say "AY! Eres Subcomandante Marcos!" :D ... I've this theory, actually first from my dad who is Mexican, but I don't believe it. However, I must admit that I haven't seen much progression from the group as of recent. But how much can you get done with a Conservative like Fox as president?

FatFreeMilk
15th July 2004, 08:24
He actually encouraged people to go around saying they were him.

This theory about him looking for fame and fortune is bullshit.

As for that picture, anybody can go around and compare a ski masked figure with a normal pic and say they are the same. Don't buy it.