War, Death, Peace

[Guest]

I have looked over some of the posts that have been made in the forum, I thought that maybe most of you would care about life; I thought that because you were leftist you would see the horror in all death but I was wrong. I do not understand how any person can take pride in the death of anyone for any reason. If you support the Palestinians that is great so do I but I also support the Israeli people... they are people after all

They are confused as the region is as what to do. Their leaders are in a deadlock with no choice but a horrific act

You must understand that Evan though you support Palestine

The war the death that is not what is right for any one anywhere any time...

It is all bad and not good, some of you say bad things about American policy ... then try and do something about it with out.... just don't act violent that gets you no where times are different

People will listen if you tell them in a good manner.

No one likes to listen to someone who just wants to kill

"America supports Israel because it is a democracy, but Israel won't allow 3 million palatine refugees in its country because they will out way some of the Jewish political influence after all what government can be truly a democracy when the flag is an idol... that goes for all countries Muslim, Jewish and all others"

I am not an American but I live in America... its not as bad as you make it out to be

Grow up and stay away from bomb-talk and killing and murder and war and speak of truth and enlighten

Socialism is fine don't taint it

[deimos]

guest, i agree with you in some points in some not. y do we make the U$ bad?Are there users in this forum who made the U$ bad and said something thats not true? Im european so i belive what the americans in this forum, for instance nateddi are teling me.

[Derar]

Dont hide behind ur hipocrite ( I am a socialist , and i love peace ) mask .........

if u support a facist country that masscres children and civilians , then u r a fucking facsist ........ and facsists should all be killed !

And from ur hipocrite post , i say u dont support che , and what he did in cuba , and the ( killing ) of the batista's facsist soldiers .........

so fuck off .

[elizquierdista]

Compañeros, let's not forget our ultimate goal is a nearly perfect topian society, where worker is the only class. We are not anti-american we are anti-imperialism and anti-capitalism, if you take that to mean anti-american, it is your problem. The most intellectual americans had socialist based principles.
Thomas Paine, Martin Luther King Jr., Malcom X, Henry David Thoreau, Eugene V. Debbs, and others who I can't remember right now.

Once again, I repeat we are not anti-american, we are against what they teach. They teach that communism is horrible, and socialism is bullshit. Tell me where in the constitution, it says that the U.S. has to be a capitalistic country.

[Xvall]

Guest.. I'm assuming you support America. Correct me if I'm wrong.
We support these people because they are defending themselves against their opressors. You think we 'worship' death, because you saw one post promotic Palestinian actions against Israelis. You seem to have no problems when Israelis or Americans or governments that aren't called 'rouge terrorist states' kill someone. It for a 'better cause'. We never say:
"Oh good! Some guy blews up some Israeli Child!"

But we would say something like:
"Yay! The Palestinians are Defending themselves!"

Look around. I'm sure the government you support has no actions better than those of these alleged 'terrorists'. In fact, the CIA alone is responsible for more deaths than all of these 'terrorist' states combined. Don't assume things. Us leftists have been put through months of lies, and personally, we're not in a very good mood, which is why you will notice the majority of people replying to you by calling you a 'pussy' or whatever. Get to know us, and where we stand. Then maybe you'll understand something.

- Drake Dracoli

[Guest]

Quote: from Guest on 5:34 pm on April 12, 2002
I have looked over some of the posts that have been made in the forum, I thought that maybe most of you would care about life; I thought that because you were leftist you would see the horror in all death but I was wrong. I do not understand how any person can take pride in the death of anyone for any reason. If you support the Palestinians that is great so do I but I also support the Israeli people... they are people after all


When people refer to a country, it means "government".

So if I say "I hate Israel, they are killing more civilians than they are killing military targets.", it really means, "I hate the Israel GOVERNMENT, they are killing more civilians than they are killing military targets".

If someone refers to the people of a country, they will say "Palestinian people", or "American people".

Now go and look over the posts again, and I doubt you will have the same opinion of leftists.

[Guest]

so are all socialists ok with killing, war, bombings, violence and such? seems to be justified all too often.

[Spartacist]

"so are all socialists ok with killing, war, bombings, violence and such? seems to be justified all too often."

You cannot make an omlette without breaking a few eggs and you cannot make a Utopia without breaking a few heads.

Of this, my first post, I am proud.

[Guest]

Quote: from Spartacist on 9:01 am on April 13, 2002
"so are all socialists ok with killing, war, bombings, violence and such? seems to be justified all too often."

You cannot make an omlette without breaking a few eggs and you cannot make a Utopia without breaking a few heads.

Of this, my first post, I am proud. You're proud of that piece of crap? You're going to fit in just fine here. Kill kill kill. You have the solution! Everyone will want to follow the path of enlightenment that you have revealed!

-Mysterious Anonymous Guest

[deimos]

elizquierdista, i agree with you.The nazis didn't like the jews because they were jews, they didn't like them because they were not like the others. Not germanic.
So, i think everybody who says, i want to kill all jews americans etc. is, i think, a nazi.Or better:He thinks as a nazi!

[Guest]

Quote: from Spartacist on 9:01 am on April 13, 2002
"so are all socialists ok with killing, war, bombings, violence and such? seems to be justified all too often."

You cannot make an omlette without breaking a few eggs and you cannot make a Utopia without breaking a few heads.

Of this, my first post, I am proud.




Utopia is not our goal , as it can't be the goal of ours. We should fight for the real state structure, and build it according to the scientific knowledge of socialism and communism. The violent revolution is the one of the ways and seems the only one. The struggle between classes always leads to the violence.

[deadpool 52]

Peace, revolution, war

War, peace, revolution . . .

An endless waltz throughout time . . .

[Revolution Hero]

I have posted that guest message on April 14, as my nick did not appear with the post.
The thing deadpool have described is called permanent revolution and it ends with the victory of the revolution of the proletariat.
Defense of the state from conter- revolutions is the main task of the socialist government, especially during the first period of it's existance.