Something every leftist must know

[Guest]

As brothers and sisters of freedom and liberty we must become aware of how strong our numbers are. We must become aware of our numbers. Because we are strong together. Alone we are "terrorists" or "reds" or "fucking commies". This is because we are spread to thin. We must take count of how many leftist. Which includes Anarchist, Socialist, Communist, and Liberals and so on are will to work together in our fight for freedom. Because in the past we have been know as a bickering bunch of idealist. So we must consolidate. We may then eventually be able to become free without firing a shot. And if we must use violence. At least
we will know where are brothers and sisters are. I may begin a website to gather leftist. Or maybe someone can pick up the site.


Viva la revolution

[filimarxist]

very well said whoever you are wherever ur from

[Revolution Hero]

The guest is someone who thinks about the great victory of ours which will occur from the union of all leftist. His idea is not new, remember the time of INTERNATIONALS organized by Karl Marx and Engels.
If we make something like that it would be really great. All the thing is in the organization of it.
We have to UNITE in order to win!

[Maaja]

Great!!! I agree with you!

[BOZG]

Very well said both guest and RH

UNITE & FIGHT

[Angie]

Welcome guest, and much welcomed words. Sign up and show your colours. :)

[bleed3r]

great idea, but who administers the database? who keeps tabs on all the members? i love the idea but it needs to be carefully thought out first. private administration as opposed to public display, but with some way of still keeping the information readily available to the community... hmm

(Edited by bleed3r at 4:21 pm on April 12, 2002)

[Zippy]

Its Mr CIA collecting a list of terrorists.

Zippy says never trust a person who wont even tell us his e-mail address. ;)

Zippy.

[Kez]

Zippy = peedo

[honest intellectual]

Yeah, we can't do it on the internet. We should all meet up in China and have a decent old-fashioned international

[MJM]

Quote: from honest intellectual on 12:37 pm on April 13, 2002
Yeah, we can't do it on the internet. We should all meet up in China and have a decent old-fashioned international

Sounds good!
We need a sponsor or something.

[red senator]

Proof that we shouldn't ban guests altogether just because of the "college shitters" problem.

[Nateddi]

I agree with the Guest.

This forum is full of all kinds of leftists, and its a great community for all of us.

[Anonymous]

All come to Dublin, when i overthrow Bertie, free guinness and murphys for all..........and all other drinks will be priced for 30c. Well all get pissed and dance a jig....
WOOOOOOOOOOOOOHHH!!!

[flames of the flag]

i think the first step in the cosolidation is for geust to sign up

[deimos]

I agrre with guest! Only a united nation, is a strong nation!
That was the problem of communism, for instance, in germany in the pre-nsdap time. The kdp(communists) fought against the spd(socialists).Together, they were maybe strong enough to defeat the nazis.

[Kingnothing]

It would reallly be great to have both a leftsit international styled in the old internationals of marx and engels and to have a leftist youth international...

[elizquierdista]

I'm liking this site more and more as I see the ideas emerging from its members and non-members alike. I also agree with Irishguevara, let's hold the meeting in Ireland, I've always wanted to go there.

[liderDeFARC]

That would be so great beer and all..... except IF YOURE UNDERAGE. But im sure you can make exeptions :biggrin: (come on comrades, its not like i drive)

Guest when i read those words something inside me stirred like what has happened before when i read all you guys posts. This is what makes me love you guys, what makes me want to fight. Who has felt that before? (dont make me feel stupid, agree)

Lets meet, unite and fight !!!

[RedRevolutionary87]

your all welcome to come to toronto canada, lol tickets are cheap since no one comes here and its great because no1 would suspect canada, he he he he

[Guest]

It's all good. But we must also consider the lesson of the INTERNATIONALS history. Do you all remember why have they collapsed?
All leftist together is the union of different leftist ideas, which are opposing to each other. There are also the leftist who goes against marxist- leninist theory, which I believe is completely right. I feel if we all gather together there would be lots of theoretical discussions and the split of the union as a result.

The idea of the uniting is great , but we must be all of the one kind. All of us must respect the legacy left to us by Karl Marx. Engels and Lenin by accepting it in the right aspect. It is not about dogma, it is about the fundamental knowledge and the basis.

[peaccenicked]

Unity is good. The hard question is around what.
This the hard part is so difficult. In the past it has been about theory. To day is an age of theoretical poverty. There are good ideas out there but there is not much theoretical struggle. Why? There are to many egos that want to hold on to their power base.
The movement is in decline. The only thing we can do is learn, compare ideas work out where we stand. Study
what we can about the real problems of the movement.
This needs complete honesty and openness. Everybody has their own ideas but to work out what ideas give us strength and what ideas weaken us is the path of our lives.
The truth of dialectics summed up is that we need to find questions, we need to pose questions that are relevant to todays society.
A good starting point is Lenin's ''where to begin?''. It only applies to the conditions of Russia.
The question is what can we take out of it that is applicable to day, in other words is Lenin's method of begining useful. Does it give us any pointers.
If anyone is interested in this kind of work or just sees
how important it is, Then let me know. I have loads of thoughts I can share with you here.
http://www.kurtuluscephesi.com/lenin/neredenen.html
It is short. It is a worthwile excercise in thinking like a revolutionary. If there is any problems of reference to parts of russian history, I am quite knowledgeable.
Anyway I am not sure if anyone will be keen. There is about ten paragraphs.

(Edited by peaccenicked at 7:44 am on June 26, 2002)


(Edited by peaccenicked at 7:47 am on June 26, 2002)

[The Ax]

Hey,
I think this is a great idea, but we mustt meet in a central nation which is cheap to access. We msut also put forward a code of conduct or charter to make sure that it doesn't split up or be consumed by bickering.

The Ax

[antieverything]

There can be no organization if it is not a collective...Diversity must be our strength...United we fall. Divided we stand. Remember that...no compromises, there are no groups, only people.

[uth1984]

Shit, what a good Idea. I'm lovin this site more everyday. We could have meetings in all major countries -- one in UK, one in France, one in Ireland, on in USA etc etc

[RGacky3]

THIS IS WHAT I'VE BEEN SAYING ALL ALONG. We must unite and put aside our differences of opinion, if all the socialist partys of America united they would probably get enough votes to get into the debates. Thats why we have to UNTITE, with ALL types of socialists.

[suffianr]

China is too far for me. How about just meet up at my place. Beer's on me...