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Rex_20XD6
29th June 2004, 20:04
Bush most likely went into Iraq instead of Saudi Arabia or fought a lot harder in Afghanistan because the Saudi’s and Bin laden family have so much money in the U.S. bank that is they where to pull out, the stoke market would crash. I got my facts from Fahrenheit 9/11 and it’s got holes in it’s info, and I know that. But that's my theory, so don’t chew me out for it.

Rex_20XD6
30th June 2004, 16:36
Is some on going to reply or something?

praxis1966
1st July 2004, 00:48
I'll do you one better. He went into Iraq because of the large investments that the bin Laden and Saudi royal families have made in his and his fathers various business ventures. That, and the Saudis have been quite co-operative both times the U$ went after Iraq and, by extension, their oil supply.

el bigpig
1st July 2004, 15:41
not only that, but they are gnerally on good terms with the Saudi royal family. US had terrible relations with Iraq

Rex_20XD6
2nd July 2004, 04:20
And if they went into Saudi Arabia they oil cost would go up.

DaCuBaN
2nd July 2004, 04:23
Then what of Venezuela? ;)

(*
2nd July 2004, 04:51
He went to Iraq because Saddam Hussein is evil, they have WMDs, and he killed 3,000 people on 9/11

praxis1966
2nd July 2004, 06:52
Originally posted by [email protected] 1 2004, 10:20 PM
And if they went into Saudi Arabia they oil cost would go up.
Where have you been? Here in the U$, the price of gas has nearly doubled in the last two years. It's up something like 75% nationally on the average. The increased price of oil is a benefit to the oil companies to which Bush and Cheney are beholden. The word Halliburton comes to mind.

h&s
2nd July 2004, 12:11
He went to Iraq because Saddam Hussein is evil, they have WMDs, and he killed 3,000 people on 9/11
I hope that's sarcasm!

monkeydust
2nd July 2004, 19:21
Bush most likely went into Iraq instead of Saudi Arabia or fought a lot harder in Afghanistan because the Saudi’s and Bin laden family have so much money in the U.S. bank that is they where to pull out, the stoke market would crash. I got my facts from Fahrenheit 9/11 and it’s got holes in it’s info, and I know that. But that's my theory, so don’t chew me out for it.

Yes, I suppose.

But this is hardly the only reason why Iraq was the chosen area.

As some have already said, Iraq was notably antagonistic to the U.S. Saddam was openly so, in fact. Iraq was also more commonly considered to be a 'bad' country, thus justification for military action was easier.

Invasion of Saudi Arbia would also have been stratigically more difficult, in my opinion. Let's also not forget the Bush wanted to finish what his Daddy had started.

Kurai Tsuki
2nd July 2004, 19:36
It's no big revelation that the American government has close ties to Saudi Arabia, and accuses other Arab countries of lacking democratic tendancies while Saudi Arabia one of the most authorotarian countries in the Middle East. Every politically informed Arab knows that. And they didn't have to see Farenheit 9/11 to know it :lol:

But about the facts, the film underwent a very strict factual scruitiny before it was released. So there's nothing wrong with citing it confidently.

praxis1966
2nd July 2004, 23:57
Originally posted by [email protected] 2 2004, 01:21 PM

Yes, I suppose.

But this is hardly the only reason why Iraq was the chosen area.

As some have already said, Iraq was notably antagonistic to the U.S. Saddam was openly so, in fact. Iraq was also more commonly considered to be a 'bad' country, thus justification for military action was easier.

Invasion of Saudi Arbia would also have been stratigically more difficult, in my opinion. Let's also not forget the Bush wanted to finish what his Daddy had started.
I'm not sure that I would agree that Saudi Arabia would have been a strategically more difficult proposition as there is really no way of knowing. The rest of your assertions I can easily stipulate to.

I would add as a sidenote that this had nothing to do with 9/11 (and no Crescent, I'm not talking to you; I know you were kidding). The fact is that something like half of the current cabinet level officials in the Bu$h administration sent Clinton a letter making the argument for a full scale invasion of Iraq. 9/11 was just a convenient excuse. That said, I did hear on the radio the other day that the only cabinet level official in the Bu$h Whitehouse who isn't a former oil company executive (including Cheney) is Secretary of State Colin Powell.

While oil probably was not the solitary motive for the invasion, I believe it was the primary one.

(*
3rd July 2004, 00:01
:lol:

Remember when they found a mural on a wall, it showed the 9/11 attacks. Everybody was like "I knew it! Saddam was behind 9/11!"

DaCuBaN
3rd July 2004, 00:22
I did hear on the radio the other day that the only cabinet level official in the Bu$h Whitehouse who isn't a former oil company executive (including Cheney) is Secretary of State Colin Powell

That would probably explain why he doesn't seem like as much of an arsehole as the rest of them.


While oil probably was not the solitary motive for the invasion, I believe it was the primary one

Oil was the 'carrier wave', so to speak. To my mind, the reasons for this particular Holy Crusade are all encapsulated within.