Communism

[siare]

The very sad fact is that there has never been a good communism or ca
patilist government

[ÑóẊîöʼn]

What do you recommend instead?

[Misodoctakleidist]

There can never be a good government.

[Hate Is Art]

Depends how look you at it?

I for instance would call Cuba a "good" government. TAT wouldn't.

There has never been a Communist Government though.

[The Feral Underclass]

Originally posted by [email protected] 29 2004, 07:41 PM
There can never be a good government.
*swoons*

Communist Government
Nazi Jew

[Raisa]

What TAT is suggesting, is that in communism there is no government.
Just like no nazi is a jew. That the terms are mutually exclusive.


And there is and has been a capitalist government, even if they do employ socialist ideas so that people dont get mad.

The fact that they are at the leisure to employ our ideas at their will, should kind of make it evident. Capitalists dont really orgainze into a government, becuase its a concept of every man for him self. The capitalists own the means of production and all the things that make the world go round.

You pray to god to get the job, so you can pay you rent, but the truth is, you are at their will.

[Pawn Power]

Originally posted by [email protected] 29 2004, 05:41 PM
There can never be a good government.
thats the ticket

[Don't Change Your Name]

"Good government" is a utopia!!!!

[elijahcraig]

Workers states are good states.

No states are the best states.

[Subversive Pessimist]

I would say: Cuba is a better state. It's not "good", but it's better. A lot better.

Capitalist states - 100 percent bad
Socialist states - Better

[Essential Insignificance]

Just like not nazi is a jew

That's illogical.

[Kurai Tsuki]

Russia and Cuba were fairly good untill American foreign policy put them in a constant state of defence. Chile would have been a good socialist country had the United States not intervened.

But then, according to Lenin, imperialism is, "the highest state of capitalism."

[MiniOswald]

tsuki id say cuba was good, but not russia, it was flawed from the start, too hard to keep a country that big in check

[elijahcraig]

Russia and Cuba were fairly good untill American foreign policy put them in a constant state of defence. Chile would have been a good socialist country had the United States not intervened.

But then, according to Lenin, imperialism is, "the highest state of capitalism."

Both are still "good", well Russia was, compared to the rest of the third world, and good even compared to the US or some large country like that.


but not russia, it was flawed from the start, too hard to keep a country that big in check

That's ridiculous.

Russia went from being a third world country in extreme poverty and under a divine ruler to a first world nation that was equal to the US in mortality rates and technology. They also had no poverty and social progression was enormous.

[Vinny Rafarino]

Originally posted by The Anarchist [email protected] 29 2004, 08:08 PM
*swoons*

Communist Government
Nazi Jew
Not exactly. (http://www.historyofmilitary.com/Hitlers_Jewish_Soldiers_The_Untold_Story_of_Nazi_R acial_Laws_and_Men_of_Jewish_Descent_in_the_German _Military_0700611789.html)

[bobby]

To nazi jews...seen the Believer?

[Wiesty]

a good government could last if there was a dictatorship and the president, was not an idiot and mad bad choices,

there for all his choices would be smart, the civilians could not vote etc. make choices and most chocies would be smart

[Wiesty]

Oh and When Russia was in the soviet union it was like the best alliance, they were better off in the communist republic.

Now that the soivet union has broke it has left most of europe in political and economical trauma

[Hate Is Art]

Russia and Cuba were fairly good untill American foreign policy put them in a constant state of defence. Chile would have been a good socialist country had the United States not intervened.

You can't just blame American Foriegn policy for the failures of those governments. The CCCP was problematic from start seeing as the October Revolution was carried out by a small band of highly trained people not the masses, which is essential for a Communist revolution.

[Misodoctakleidist]

To be fair the bolsheviks did have much more support then some suggest, their party members had been elected as leaders of many of the soviets particularly in Petrograd, the actual revolution it's self was carried out by a small number of people but this shouldn't be confused for an indication that they had very little support.

EDIT: Lenin actualy held elections after the revolution in which the beolshevks won a large number of seats although not a majority which is why the parliment (i think it was a parliment) was disolved.

[Hate Is Art]

He won something like 20% of the seats with the SR's winning over 40% in the elections.

[bobby]

You can't just blame American Foriegn policy for the failures of those governments. The CCCP was problematic from start seeing as the October Revolution was carried out by a small band of highly trained people not the masses, which is essential for a Communist revolution.

This is wrong. The revolution was led by the masses, and the party came in lagging behind.

[Elect Marx]

Originally posted by [email protected] 5 2004, 12:37 AM
To nazi jews...seen the Believer?
That's what came to my mind. That was a good movie. Hard to believe but it just goes to show how anyone can be so indoctrinated (it was based on a true story).