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Malvinas Argentinas
10th April 2002, 21:44
Iam from Argentina and we are suffering a very hard crisis. devaluatio, hinflation, FIVE PRESIDENTS IN A WEEK!!!!, how do you see Argentina from other countries, what does newspaper say???
Xvall
10th April 2002, 21:52
The way I see the American Media:
Right now! For only $2.99, you can get your very own american flag from Wal-Mart! Complete with picture of Goerge W. Bush! Made in China
In other news, Argentina is in Chrisis. But that's not important! Wouldn't you like this nice flag!
ZaPaTiStA SoCiAlIsTa
10th April 2002, 22:40
Honestly, the american media dosent give ashit, as well as most other americans. the only coverage i saw on tv on the argentina crisis was on the spanish channels. i though it was great that the gente from argentina took action. Hermano, ten fe! Saldramos pa Delante!!!
vox
10th April 2002, 22:49
The only place I heard Argentina mentioned in the US was on NPR (National Public Radio.) Of course, I wasn't watching much TV news at the time.
I found an article about neighborhood assemblies in Argentina a while back and posted it here. Seemed like a good idea to me.
vox
Malvinas Argentinas
10th April 2002, 23:11
Bush is always sayng that he is going to help us, FUCK HIM, national producers are bunkrupted due to the FUCKING US enerprises. They are fucking us, and our presidents are blind.
Peolple is sayng that Argentina is going to be anothr star in the American Flag!!
I Will Deny You
10th April 2002, 23:40
The only time that Argentina got notable coverage in the news was during your five-presidents-in-two-weeks thing. Most Americans probably think about Argentina the same way that they think of the rest of Latin America.
elizquierdista
11th April 2002, 04:14
Being an argentino myself, I'm heartbroken to see my country in shambles. While the crisis reached unimaginable heights, and 21 people died in protests, the American media was only talking about the new Afghani government, while one was falling to pieces in what was the "richest" country in Latin-America.
We've been screwed over so many times, first by the military dictatorships, then by the Brits (no offense but las Malvinas are ours), and lastly by our politicians.
Most of it thanks to US intervention or should I say non-inetervention.
BOZG
11th April 2002, 11:37
To tell you the truth, in Ireland there has not been a word about Argentina for months. The last thing I seen was about there being 5 presidents in two weeks and that a group of Irish hurling players were mobbed by rioters and that was it. Could you give us any updates of the situation Malvinas or elizquierdista?
Guest
11th April 2002, 17:17
I heard that the people were lining up the streets to buy USD. Honestly, being latina myself, don't expect much attention about Latin American problems to be first-page headliners here in the US. People here are either too busy 1) Fighting the war of terrorism (where if your address is a cave then you are a terrorist) or 2) ISraeli-palestine conflict
I think that Argentina suffered from the same corruption as other latin countries. Unfortuntately, it is up to the people of your country to elect and voice a person who can bring change. Buena Suerte!
:-)
elizquierdista
11th April 2002, 22:55
Gracias por el deseo guest.
As to your question BornOfZapatasGuns, the current crisis is disastrous. Our former minister of economy is currently being brought up on charges of contraband of weapons. (Which by the way, our asshole ex-pesident Menem, is also involved in). Our country is no longer ours because we've sold every inch of it to foreign companies. And I've even heard talks about the U.S. building a military base down there.
As for las Islas Malvinas, the British currently have 2,000 troops stationed in the islands. They won't give return to us what's rightfully ours. We are now mourning our casualties in the War that occured 20 years ago.
All I can say is I know not when or how they'll once again be ours, but I garauntee that they will once again be ours. La bandera [argentina] será izada en las islas nuevamente!
Angie
12th April 2002, 02:21
Not much news on Argentina is being revealed here in Australia lately either, unfortunately ... it's heartbreaking to think about all the places of the world where the voices are rising louder and louder, but it's getting so much harder to hear them ... I'm so sorry for your pain ...
:(
Kingnothing
12th April 2002, 02:25
I´m also Argentine and things here are really bad. The devaulation of owr peso in a dollar dependant economy such as ours has led to inflation which has doubled the prices of many things, and has had devastating effects on our already weak economy. As if this was not enough, to the already existant 14 million poor in argentina more than 3 million more will be added due to inflation and many maore will not be able to afford the basic alimentary basket. In the political sphere the promising spirit that brought down the De la Rua goverment has calmed, and dvisions within the left do not allow it to act as a majority force.. furthermore, the peronist goverment still bows to the USA and uses force to maintain itself in power. Luckily the military is too weak to take power by force but it is an option that should not be completely discarded. The people here are desperate... out of 33 million argentines, 14 live in poverty and 3 more million will join them by the end of 2002. The situation calls for action but the goverment is to busy paying the imf and stealing money to even care about the poor.
elizquierdista
12th April 2002, 21:46
Kingnothing, compañero, I couldn't have said it better myself. No te preocupes mucho. O jala lo que está pasando en Uruguay vaya a la Argentina. En Montevideo, Pando, Canelones y otras ciudades grandes la fuerza más fuerte es la comunista-socialista. Los yoruguas ya están artos del robo, el hambre y la miseria. Imaginate, hasta los viejos están votando a favor de la izquierda. También tienen un tupamaro de presidente de la cámara baja o alta (un puesto muy importante, no estoy seguro cual). *¡Viva el pueblo!
I apologize for those who don't speak spanish.
Zippy
13th April 2002, 12:44
Being British, our media just tells me the Argentinians are evil and they cheat at football.
Zippy.
Kingnothing
13th April 2002, 21:22
Gracias por tu apoyo elizquierdista. Que buena noticia que el viento izquierdista sopla fuerte en Uruguay, un poco de esperanza para quienes vivimos del otro lado de rio del de la plata. ¡Solo la hermandad latinoamericana nos llevara hacia adelante! ¡El pueblo unido jamas sera vencido! un calido saludo argentino.
deimos
13th April 2002, 23:31
Here(europe) for circa 3 weeks argentina was every evening in the news.BTW: Do they people on the malvinas speak english or spanish?
elizquierdista
13th April 2002, 23:38
I'm not up to date on the current situation of the Malvinas except that they are still occupied by the British and it is the 20th anniversary of the war Guerra de las Islas Malvinas. I suppose they speak English, most of the Argentine civilian population was forced out a long time ago (before the war).
Malvinas Argentinas
14th April 2002, 03:41
Zippy,
Bullshit, we are not cheaters in football, you are crying because of bekham, your only hope, and you have to put the blame on someone. Sory, There is no chance at all that you pass to the second round.
Thich Quang Duc
14th April 2002, 15:12
yeah i agree about las malvinas, they should belong to argentina, i'm from england, and i for one know that argentina could make better use of it, as it is no where near the UK anyway. the same goes for n.ireland, but that's a different story...
Zippy
14th April 2002, 16:37
Quote: from Malvinas Argentinas on 3:41 am on April 14, 2002
Bullshit, we are not cheaters in football, you are crying because of bekham, your only hope, and you have to put the blame on someone.
Doctor, doctor, come quick. The man is in serious need of a humour transplant, it looks like he lost his own.
Zippy, a man who couldnt give a flying fuck about football.
Son of Scargill
15th April 2002, 07:03
Quote: from deimos on 11:31 pm on April 13, 2002
Here(europe) for circa 3 weeks argentina was every evening in the news.BTW: Do they people on the malvinas speak english or spanish?
They are British decendants,and speak english with a wierd Summerzet(Somerset)accent.The irony of the situation is that if General Galtieri hadn't have invaded,most of the islanders would have packed up and returned to England by now.Thanks to the large army presence there,the Falklands/Malvinas economy has recieved a much needed boost.
chupacabra
15th April 2002, 15:51
Zippy, don't ever disrespect latins around me! Don't you think your statements are ignorant? Nobody but the Argentinians belong there!
The British should know better than to start acting like Americans, ignorance is not a virtue, brother!
Moskitto
15th April 2002, 20:02
In Paragonia there's Welsh speakers.
elizquierdista
15th April 2002, 22:14
Even if Galtieri hadn't invaded the islands, they'd still belong to Britain. I'm sorry, I just don't see Britain giving up a very important strategic location.
Son of Scargill
16th April 2002, 06:52
I don't see them giving up the islands either.If it were up to me you'd have got them back years ago.
And ease up on Zippy,he was being sarcastic about the british media,and its perception of Argentina in general,not giving his personal views.
elizquierdista
17th April 2002, 04:04
Thank you, Son of Scargill, it's nice to see some solidarity and support from the British side.
pastradamus
17th April 2002, 14:50
Well to be honest I see argentina as a pretty fucked up country at the moment,and also as a country in need of socialism badly,so hows it going over there?
Zippy
17th April 2002, 19:56
Quote: from Son of Scargill on 6:52 am on April 16, 2002
... he was being sarcastic about the british media,and its perception of Argentina in general,not giving his personal views.
Woo hoo, someone finally gets the point.
Peace,
Zippy. :)
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