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revolutionindia
25th June 2004, 12:49
Drugs are everywhere. It is all around us. Even now, in this very forum. You can see people who do it when you look out your window or when you turn on your television. You can feel it when you go to work, when you go to church, when you pay your taxes. It is the world that has been pulled over your eyes, to blind you from the truth. ... you are a slave. Like everyone else you were drugged into bondage, drugged into a prison that you cannot smell or taste or touch. A prison for your mind ... What are drugs? Control. Drugs are a dream world built to keep us under control - Revolutionindia(courtesyMorpheous)

ÑóẊîöʼn
25th June 2004, 13:09
Very funny RI. :P

Now try replacing 'the matrix' with 'society' you might be surprised.

Have you even watched any of the Matrix films?

Capitalist Imperial
25th June 2004, 13:53
Momma always said communism was like a box of chocolates...

Wow, I can plagarise from American cinema too!!!

Funny that someone so vehemently anti-American uses one of America's greatest institutions for profound wisdom. As is par for the course among many commie-pukes, your hypocracy knows no bounds.

Osman Ghazi
25th June 2004, 14:00
America's greatest institutions

Movies are America's greatest institution? That's just sad.

ÑóẊîöʼn
25th June 2004, 14:27
Funny that someone so vehemently anti-American uses one of America's greatest institutions for profound wisdom. As is par for the course among many commie-pukes, your hypocracy knows no bounds.

It's not hypocrisy;

I don't think the Wachowski brothers to be part of 'The Great American Conspiracy To Rule The World' (Like I ever believed that in the first place :rolleyes: )

I just find their little insight inspiring.

Capitalist Imperial
25th June 2004, 14:30
Originally posted by Osman [email protected] 25 2004, 02:00 PM

Movies are America's greatest institution? That's just sad.
"One of", not "the absolute" greatest. It is inarguable that American cinema has been instrumental in shaping contemporary culture around the world.

If you don't like them, fine, but it seems that even your commie bretheren likes to plagarise them for his wisdom.

Funky Monk
25th June 2004, 14:34
I dont see this amazing link between Capitalism and Cinema. Ok Hollywood is a large capitlist symbol but cinema has been used by the left and is still used by independant film makers to put across their viewpoints. Cinema is more of a tool than a symbol.

revolutionindia
25th June 2004, 16:19
Do you believe the Wachowski brothers made up the matrix story?
And they have a copyright over it?Oh then you are plain stupid

The Wachowski brothers copy,paste and edit to create the matrix philosophy
from buddhist and hindu texts.

To me its a cheap imitation of the real stuff.
Thats what americans deserve cause they will not be
able to digest the real stuff .
So the wachowski preapared liquid ceralac for the American
audiences by adding a few machines and action.
resulting in corrupted nonsense popcorn entertainment

Also I think the ending music of matrix revolutions which
had the remix of asotoma satgamaya mantra with beats
was pathetic and really a burden on one ears

You should listen to the real mantra and know its meaning,its really powerful!!

American movies are the torchbearers of Imperialism,
first movies,then products that signify american way of life and finally armies

They stink of american jingoism(The peacemaker,Black hawk down,enemy behind lines etcetc)
and Oh how america saves the world everytime and how russia
is evil and all that bullshit

I saw american beauty and it was like an eye opener to the
american way of life
If thats the life of an average american you guys really,really,really
need some help

I used the matrix thing because that's the only language druggies will understand

If I preach the real shit in plain language then nobody will see sense

I think I'm not exactly a commie

But some commies are hypocrites on this site

All day they preach"Religion is the opiate of the masses"
and come night they do the real opiate(cocaino,marijuana,etcetc)
and get stoned log on to a leftist forum and
complain about how life's a *****

Commies just wanna have fun :rolleyes:

I wish I could post some pictures of druggies,
They are so sad,It seems the light in their eyes has been extingushed
Could someone who's anti-drugs google and post some pictures of
what drugs do to you
Thanx

Capitalist Imperial
25th June 2004, 17:59
Its time for your meds, cheif.

I find it funny how you are the authority for which films are and are not accurate portrayal of Ameican life. Blackhawk down is jingoism, but American beauty is right on the money? It sounds like you are interpolating each individual film to fit your illogical agenda.

You are full of contradiction, you talk about how bad american movies are, but you quote them and even admit you watch them.

Even your fellow leftists have suggested that you lack true cognitive capacity or semblance of reason. Howevever, I encourage your posts, as they come from a self-described leftist revolutionary, and thus they reflect their audacity and idiocy on your bretheren.

Thank you revolutionindia, thank you very much.

revolutionindia
25th June 2004, 18:06
Propoganda is the name of the game
and I will interpret american propoganda to suit my needs

I have watched american movies for they give me valuable insigths
into the retarted state of the American mind
There is still hope for you

I say it again and for the last time
I think it's a bit early to call me communist
and nowhere Have I claimed to be comunist

Because certain fundamental things that I believe in
are not compatible with communist ideology

I essentially believe
communism and capitalism are clay in the hands of men
make god or devil of it

Don't argue with me I am a gifted individual and you are
only reagan's *****

revolutionindia
25th June 2004, 18:17
If you have anything to say about drugs then say so and
stop trying to colonize my thread you dirty imperialist

Capitalist Imperial
25th June 2004, 18:59
Originally posted by [email protected] 25 2004, 06:06 PM
Propoganda is the name of the game
and I will interpret american propoganda to suit my needs

I have watched american movies for they give me valuable insigths
into the retarted state of the American mind
There is still hope for you

I say it again and for the last time
I think it's a bit early to call me communist
and nowhere Have I claimed to be comunist

Because certain fundamental things that I believe in
are not compatible with communist ideology

I essentially believe
communism and capitalism are clay in the hands of men
make god or devil of it

Don't argue with me I am a gifted individual and you are
only reagan's *****
Retarded state of the american mind?

We are the world's richest, most powerful, most technologically advanced, and most successful nation, much farther along than India, even though India is much older as a nation that we are!!!

It seems to me that it is America who is gifted, and developing at an accelerated pace, and India that is still 3rd-world and falling behind. How does it feel to passed up so easily by a nation 1/2 your age? You may as well ask every other nation over 200 years old that question as well.

We could crush India with the push of a button. Know you place, boy.

revolutionindia
25th June 2004, 19:11
This world moves like stock cycles in the form of peaks and troughs

India is right now in a trough and cannot possibly go any further down
While America is at its peak and their is only one way which is down

America is like the technology bubble it created,it will burst and it will crash
Just like Russia
You will be spoken in the same breath as Atlantis and how the corruption and moral decayreached new levels causing it to be destroyed

India Maybe 3rd world by capitalist standards .but I think india is the most socially and culturally developed country in the world.and america would be 3rd world according to me

And India will rise.Believe me it will!!!!Ther's only one way to go and it's up

BTW I think America is 1 goooogleth the age of India
BEcasue indian history dates back to many BC's ago
and if indian mythology is correct even more backwards

Also I meant gifted individual as in the new tag I got just my avatar today
Goodnight I gotta go

Daymare17
25th June 2004, 19:33
revolutionindia, if you are interested in freeing the subcontinent from the chains of the humiliating slavery to imperialism, I think you should visit http://www.marxist.com/indiapak.asp

It has very many good articles on the history of your subcontinent, how the masses of the subcontinent rose in defence of their humanity, and how imperialism and its local lackeys (the Indian rich) betrayed and crushed the movement several times.

Pawn Power
25th June 2004, 21:16
Originally posted by [email protected] 25 2004, 06:17 PM
If you have anything to say about drugs then say so and
stop trying to colonize my thread you dirty imperialist
um.......crack

synthesis
25th June 2004, 21:17
Originally posted by Capitalist [email protected] 25 2004, 10:59 AM
Even your fellow leftists have suggested that you lack true cognitive capacity or semblance of reason. Howevever, I encourage your posts, as they come from a self-described leftist revolutionary, and thus they reflect their audacity and idiocy on your bretheren.
He isn't a leftist, he's an ultra-nationalist and a religious extremist, not to mention an advocate of privatization and a social conservative. Look at his positions on drug laws, homosexuality, parental rights, he is a right-winger. Do you really think that hatred of America is enough to make one a leftist?

__ca va?
25th June 2004, 22:03
revolutionindia

They stink of american jingoism(The peacemaker,Black hawk down,enemy behind lines etcetc)
and Oh how america saves the world everytime and how russia
is evil and all that bullshit


I liked Behind enemy lines (except the ending, it was very Hollywood, about the american hero soldier and stuff... :) :) ) It was really based on facts!
The thing about Russia: it is a product of the cold war, and it's still lasting. It'll change to the arabs in the close future, I'm sure.

Capitalist Imperial


We are the world's richest, most powerful, most technologically advanced, and most successful nation, much farther along than India, even though India is much older as a nation that we are!!!

It seems to me that it is America who is gifted, and developing at an accelerated pace, and India that is still 3rd-world and falling behind. How does it feel to passed up so easily by a nation 1/2 your age? You may as well ask every other nation over 200 years old that question as well.

We could crush India with the push of a button. Know you place, boy.

Not the richest, that's for sure! In Switzerland, Luxembourg and Monaco per capita GDP is much higher than in America.
Most powerful... still not powerful enough to keep peace in Iraq.
Development: I saw that it was Russia whose economy grew at the highest rate in the recent past.

Crushing India or anyone? Huh! Typically imperialist. Would you say all these to a Chinese as well?

Pedro Alonso Lopez
25th June 2004, 22:12
Capitilist Imperialist, America is defunct aesthetically. For example culturally America relies on hegenomy rather than any kind of creative force to produce art when it attempts to so. Think of any culturally significant film of the past 30 years and European cinama wins the day, also counter culturally films made by Americans are often more interesting than the dire quick fix solution that is caused by alienation and the sapping of creativity induced by the American lifestyle.

American culture is also destructive, it destroys and hemogonises the youth of the world. The worst part is that it subtly portrays sameness as individual, you must have these shoes to be unique, only all your peers will also have to follow suite when you do.

On the Matrix, the idea is stolen directly from the work of Rene Descartes as I am sure you know since your education system is just amazing. Stealing ideas and turning them into commodities is the American way.

ÑóẊîöʼn
25th June 2004, 22:44
Do you believe the Wachowski brothers made up the matrix story?
And they have a copyright over it?Oh then you are plain stupid

The Wachowski brothers copy,paste and edit to create the matrix philosophy
from buddhist and hindu texts.

Don't you feel even remotely proud that they decided to base their work on Eastern philosophy (If they did at all) and try to inject some intelligence rather than simply make another brainless action movie?


I used the matrix thing because that's the only language druggies will understand

If I preach the real shit in plain language then nobody will see sense

That's because I can't read Sanskrit, Hindi, or any of the various languages of India.


All day they preach"Religion is the opiate of the masses"
and come night they do the real opiate(cocaino,marijuana,etcetc)
and get stoned log on to a leftist forum and
complain about how life's a *****

To be honest, I've never posted under the influence of anything but caffeine or alcohol.


On the Matrix, the idea is stolen directly from the work of Rene Descartes as I am sure you know since your education system is just amazing. Stealing ideas and turning them into commodities is the American way.

Descartes obviously had some ideas interesting enough to make an action movie out of. Even if it was derivative, it was still a cracking movie IMO.

Capitalist Imperial
26th June 2004, 01:28
Originally posted by [email protected] 25 2004, 10:12 PM
Capitilist Imperialist, America is defunct aesthetically. For example culturally America relies on hegenomy rather than any kind of creative force to produce art when it attempts to so. Think of any culturally significant film of the past 30 years and European cinama wins the day, also counter culturally films made by Americans are often more interesting than the dire quick fix solution that is caused by alienation and the sapping of creativity induced by the American lifestyle.

American culture is also destructive, it destroys and hemogonises the youth of the world. The worst part is that it subtly portrays sameness as individual, you must have these shoes to be unique, only all your peers will also have to follow suite when you do.

On the Matrix, the idea is stolen directly from the work of Rene Descartes as I am sure you know since your education system is just amazing. Stealing ideas and turning them into commodities is the American way.
Your rhetoric would mean something, except you simply have the facts against you.

Whether you like American art forms or not, the fact is that American cinema, fashion, music, and American culture in general has absolutely ruled and created more influence than any other nation's culture in the 20th century.

Why?

Because people like it.

Capitalist Imperial
26th June 2004, 01:43
Originally posted by __ca [email protected] 25 2004, 10:03 PM
revolutionindia


I liked Behind enemy lines (except the ending, it was very Hollywood, about the american hero soldier and stuff... :) :) ) It was really based on facts!
The thing about Russia: it is a product of the cold war, and it's still lasting. It'll change to the arabs in the close future, I'm sure.

Capitalist Imperial



Not the richest, that's for sure! In Switzerland, Luxembourg and Monaco per capita GDP is much higher than in America.
Most powerful... still not powerful enough to keep peace in Iraq.
Development: I saw that it was Russia whose economy grew at the highest rate in the recent past.

Crushing India or anyone? Huh! Typically imperialist. Would you say all these to a Chinese as well?

Not the richest, that's for sure! In Switzerland, Luxembourg and Monaco per capita GDP is much higher than in America.

Uh, yes, it is the richest, and that is for sure. We are not talking about per-capita. Anything can be measured "per capita" to manipulate statistics. We are talking overall GDP, in which America absolutely, unequivocally is #1. As for Switzeland and Luxemborg, what are taxes-per-person? Make sure that you work that in if you talk per-capita data. There are several cities in the US with higher populations than Luxemborg. Apples and oranges, sir (or ma'am).


Most powerful... still not powerful enough to keep peace in Iraq.

I think overall, Iraq iis doing OK, much better than the media will let on, there is better ratings in bad news. History will show us whether we did a good job or not. Like most anti-war gadflies, you probably tend to focus on the short term, day-to day small problems that media reports focus on rather than the progress we are making toward long-term stabbility and viability in Iraq.


Development: I saw that it was Russia whose economy grew at the highest rate in the recent past.

#1) they have no where to go but up #2) we are not talking about rate of growth, we are talking about overall development. Russia is not even close to the USA in development, nor do I thinnk will it ever be.


Crushing India or anyone? Huh! Typically imperialist. Would you say all these to a Chinese as well?


Yes. I'm confident that if they were to attempt to intimidate us, we would not hesitate to let them know exactly where we stand.

It seems that you are desperately trying to refute the obvious no matter how far you have to stretch to do it. Your vehenment anti-americanism takes precedence over logic, reason and rationality. In a nutshell, you would rather refute American prowess than address the facts.

Typical leftist pap.

revolutionindia
26th June 2004, 06:52
Noxion When I said matrix was not copyrighted and copied I aimed
it at capitalist imperial who said I was using hollywood when its the other way round

Most of the contents of that post were aimed at that idiot

just because hollywood copied it does not give us any reason to be proud of

All that the have copied exist in corrupted forms in the west

Tantra and Yoga etc,they give it a bad name

some days ago I read there is a new yoga which involves your dog and
all that shit

Yoga which has remain unchanged because it is a perfect system today
exists in various corrupted forms in the west

Its just a source of entartainment and a fad .
The same with matrix

The essence and spirit of eastern practices cease to exist in the west

I know a lot of people who do drugs and preach religion is the opiate of the masses
With a fair degree of accuracy you can say the majority of commie club do
drugs

Daymare thanx for the link,I will make use of it

I'm working on a website similiar to che-lives.com
This will be dedicated to indian revolutionaries

I feel like scum on this forum and have long over stayed my welcome

In the coming days I will be busy and post occasionaly when my website is ready I will
inform you all

Take care all of you and please don't do drugs

BTW Is it okay if I copy the format of che-lives.com it would save me a lot of time?
I will post a banner on my site leading to che-lives.com is ti ok?

Stapler
26th June 2004, 07:48
Originally posted by Capitalist [email protected] 25 2004, 02:30 PM
"One of", not "the absolute" greatest. It is inarguable that American cinema has been instrumental in shaping contemporary culture around the world.

If you don't like them, fine, but it seems that even your commie bretheren likes to plagarise them for his wisdom.
You've seen te previews for "White Chicks". Case closed.


I think overall, Iraq iis doing OK, much better than the media will let on, there is better ratings in bad news. History will show us whether we did a good job or not. Like most anti-war gadflies, you probably tend to focus on the short term, day-to day small problems that media reports focus on rather than the progress we are making toward long-term stabbility and viability in Iraq.
Oh yeah, in just a short while we will erect a wal-mart, then Iraq will be truly free. No progeress is being made, there willl never be democracy in Iraq, and the territory will change hands between one dictator and another. The only purpose of this war was to secure the region's oilfeilds and keep the price of oil in the united states low.

__ca va?
26th June 2004, 08:37
Uh, yes, it is the richest, and that is for sure. We are not talking about per-capita. Anything can be measured "per capita" to manipulate statistics. We are talking overall GDP, in which America absolutely, unequivocally is #1. As for Switzeland and Luxemborg, what are taxes-per-person? Make sure that you work that in if you talk per-capita data. There are several cities in the US with higher populations than Luxemborg. Apples and oranges, sir (or ma'am).

Then we've got different points of view. I think a rich country is not where incomes are big, but losts of people live poor, but where there are no poor people, like in Switzerland and Luxemburg.
And of course overall GDP of America is the highest! It's big and has got a good industry. But what counts is how you distribute these goods! That's why per capita data is more representative.


I think overall, Iraq is doing OK, much better than the media will let on, there is better ratings in bad news. History will show us whether we did a good job or not. Like most anti-war gadflies, you probably tend to focus on the short term, day-to day small problems that media reports focus on rather than the progress we are making toward long-term stability and viability in Iraq.


I agree with Stapler, only I'd add that you can't liberate people! You have to wait until they liberate themselves! (US, France, Italy everywhere liberty was achieved by the people themselves and not by a foreign power.)


#1) they have no where to go but up #2) we are not talking about rate of growth, we are talking about overall development. Russia is not even close to the USA in development, nor do I think will it ever be.

Who knows?

Yes. I'm confident that if they were to attempt to intimidate us, we would not hesitate to let them know exactly where we stand.


It seems that you are desperately trying to refute the obvious no matter how far you have to stretch to do it. Your vehenment anti-americanism takes precedence over logic, reason and rationality. In a nutshell, you would rather refute American prowess than address the facts.

I'm not anti-american, I'm anti-Bush, I really liked Clinton and I liked the Americans I've met. I'm against imperialist wars, against the arrogance of the American government towards the 3rd world.
And of course I'm against the fanatic nationalists (like you) of all nations.

I Know America's 100 times bigger and has got a population 30 times higher than my coutry, but that doesn't mean I'm going to be afraid of you! Luckily even Bush is wiser than you and not playing with nuclear bombs.

Osman Ghazi
26th June 2004, 15:48
We are the world's richest, most powerful, most technologically advanced, and most successful nation, much farther along than India, even though India is much older as a nation that we are!!!


Last I counted India was created 57 years ago. That would give you about 4 times as long as India to develope. I suggest you either learn how to count or read a book about India.