Pinko- A mix of Red and White?

[robob8706]

I've heard someone say that a pinko is someone with a mix of red and white political ideals. Anyone care to define Red Politics and White Politics for me? Also, as long as were on the subject matter of color representation, anyone care to explain to me as to what the Red and Yellow mean on most communist flags?

[Yazman]

What the fuck is a pinko?

"Red Politics" refers to marxism, anyway. I guess "white politics" is a racial term, but I'm not quite sure, I've never heard of "white politics" before. I'm not really sure where the red and yellow symbolism comes from though, I guess I've never really thought about it. Good question though.

[Rex_20XD6]

marxism - The political and economic philosophy of Karl Marx and Friedrich Engels in which the concept of class struggle plays a central role in understanding society's allegedly inevitable development from bourgeois oppression under capitalism to a socialist and ultimately classless society.[B]

[Guerrilla22]

Red is the color of Marxism (obviously) and white was what the upper class of Tszarist Russia was refered to as (white Russians) or the bourgeois.

[RedAnarchist]

Russia was in 1917 "Red" Russia, and there was a White Russia, "byely Rossiya", which became Belorussia, or Belarus.

[h&s]

"White Politics" can mean nationalism.

[praxis1966]

Originally posted by [email protected] 21 2004, 12:37 AM
Red is the color of Marxism (obviously) and white was what the upper class of Tszarist Russia was refered to as (white Russians) or the bourgeois.
A point of order here: The Whites were not just made up of the nobility and what little bourgesie there were in Russia at the time of the Revolution. At the beginning of the fight between the Whites and the Reds, the Whites did have some success. This was primarily in the Ukraine where the resistance against the Reds was led by Nestor Makhno and a primarily anarchist army. Within this context, the two were opposing groups during the 1917 revolution. They are also known by the terms Bolshevik (led by Lenin, Stalin, Trotsky et al) and Menshevik (led by Julius Martov et al). It is also important to note that Leon Trotsky was, at first, a Menshevik who defected to the Bolshevik cause after Lenin's speech given upon his return from exhile in April of 1917. You are basically correct however.

To answer your question about the term "pinko," this is simply a derrogatory term generally employed by capitalists to insult socialists, communists and others of the hard left political persuasion. I'm not sure of its origins, however. If it tells you anything, my dad will sometimes call me a pinko commie bedwetter when he's trying to harass me. Although, he himself is something of a closet Marxist.

[commie kg]

Pinko os a right wing term for anyone left of their position. It generally is the same as calling someone a "gay communist." They think it's oh so witty to associate homosexuality with the color pink. And pink is almost red, so why not throw in communism, something else they hate.

That's the explaination I've always heard.

[redstar2000]

I could be wrong about this, but I think "pinko" was a term coined by American right-wingers shortly after World War II and applied to bourgeois left-liberals. It was intended to imply that left-liberalism (the "New Deal/Fair Deal" types) was a "mixture" of capitalist ideas and communist ideas...hence "pink".

:redstar2000:

The Redstar2000 Papers (http://www.redstar2000papers.fightcapitalism.net)
A site about communist ideas

[robob8706]

So basically a Pinko is an Upper Class individual who is a communist?

[robob8706]

Kinda like a bourgeois sympathizers.

[Scottish_Militant]

I was called a 'pinko' for sticking up for The Darkness on the music forum :lol:

[h&s]

I think they might have meant a different kind of pinko...

[bombeverything]

According to my politics lecturer 'pinko' is used to refer to characteristics commonly thought of as 'feminine' traits, such as compassion, co-operation, negotiation and peace.

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