What is the incentitive in a communist country?

[Immortal Ace]

Tell me? What is the point in finishing school, going to college and earning a profession in a communist country? Really, amuse me. Why be a Doctor when the guy who dropped out of High School who shovels shit for a living earns the same State Paycheck a moron who went to college for a profession gets?

As you can tell, I am a complete right winger. I'm also ultra Authoritarian and yes, some have called me a Nazi (Seeing as how I'm hispanic and don't believe in a Superior Race I find that sorta hard to see). Now back on subject. I personally think Communism is a completely flawed and idiotic ideology. And before and of you comrades start spouting off, I know the difference between communism and stalinism.

Here's another question, is it possible to establish a communist country without having to resort to Stalinism? All forms of Communism whether it be Stalinism or pure communism (Though I don't think Pure Communism has been established except in Spain where the most admirable Fransico Franco put an end to it) have ultimately failed. As for China (Stalinsm or Maoism...is there a difference?) is slowly but surely turning capitalist. Why is it that everytime a communist movement starts there are always a majority to oppose it? If it's really all that good you Comradres make it to seem, why do so many oppose it?

...and I spelled Incentive wrong. Lovely.

[elijahcraig]

Tell me? What is the point in finishing school, going to college and earning a profession in a communist country? Really, amuse me. Why be a Doctor when the guy who dropped out of High School who shovels shit for a living earns the same State Paycheck a moron who went to college for a profession gets?

Who says you get the "same State Paycheck"?


As you can tell, I am a complete right winger. I'm also ultra Authoritarian and yes, some have called me a Nazi (Seeing as how I'm hispanic and don't believe in a Superior Race I find that sorta hard to see). Now back on subject. I personally think Communism is a completely flawed and idiotic ideology. And before and of you comrades start spouting off, I know the difference between communism and stalinism.

Stalinism is the support of Stalin over Trotsky, and is Marxism-Leninism, ie Communism. There is no difference.


Here's another question, is it possible to establish a communist country without having to resort to Stalinism? All forms of Communism whether it be Stalinism or pure communism (Though I don't think Pure Communism has been established except in Spain where the most admirable Fransico Franco put an end to it) have ultimately failed. As for China (Stalinsm or Maoism...is there a difference?) is slowly but surely turning capitalist.

No country has ever been communist, nor have any of the past socialist states ever claimed to be communist. These were all Socialist states.


Why is it that everytime a communist movement starts there are always a majority to oppose it? If it's really all that good you Comradres make it to seem, why do so many oppose it?

A majority where? In the US or UK? If you mean there, the answer is propaganda. If you mean in the nation where it exists...then you are mistaken, as usually when a communist movement is up and running, they have a broad support from the population.

[CabalTherapy]

If it's really all that good you Comradres make it to seem, why do so many oppose it?

oh, because we're brainwashed of course.

[Immortal Ace]

Originally posted by [email protected] 17 2004, 11:19 AM

Who says you get the "same State Paycheck"?



Stalinism is the support of Stalin over Trotsky, and is Marxism-Leninism, ie Communism. There is no difference.



No country has ever been communist, nor have any of the past socialist states ever claimed to be communist. These were all Socialist states.



A majority where? In the US or UK? If you mean there, the answer is propaganda. If you mean in the nation where it exists...then you are mistaken, as usually when a communist movement is up and running, they have a broad support from the population.

Who says you get the "same State Paycheck"?

Really "Comrade?" If you don't get the same pay then class will be established once again. Way to fail in your ideology.


Stalinism is the support of Stalin over Trotsky, and is Marxism-Leninism, ie Communism. There is no difference.

I've always understood Stalinism as a Fascist state where it embraces communism. For example, North Korea.


No country has ever been communist, nor have any of the past socialist states ever claimed to be communist. These were all Socialist states.

Thanks for repeating what I said. I said "Maybe" Spain. Again, way to fail, comrade.


A majority where? In the US or UK? If you mean there, the answer is propaganda. If you mean in the nation where it exists...then you are mistaken, as usually when a communist movement is up and running, they have a broad support from the population.

Explain Central America. Explain my home country of El Salvador where I'd rather see the entire country destroyed then to see it as a filthy communist state. Once again I must say, way to fail.

[Immortal Ace]

oh, because we're brainwashed of course.

You're implying that I am brainwashed. Wrong, wrong indeed. I myself want to get paid for the work I put in. I don't believe in the "Equal Pay for unequal Work" bullshit.

[elijahcraig]

Really "Comrade?" If you don't get the same pay then class will be established once again. Way to fail in your ideology.

How will a class develop from this? You get back what you put into a socialist economy, you do not get back what you do not put in. Simple as that.

You are not my comrade.


I've always understood Stalinism as a Fascist state where it embraces communism. For example, North Korea.


Then you've always misunderstood Stalinism.


Thanks for repeating what I said. I same "Maybe" Spain. Again, way to fail, comrade.

There is a difference between communism and socialism, which you did not make clear in your post. I did not "repeat you", I stated the difference between these two things.

Spain is not socialist.


Explain Central America. Explain my home country of El Salvador where I'd rather see the entire country destroyed then to see it as a filthy communist state. Once again I must say, way to fail.

As the US has routinely fucked over "your" country, you should not be a right winger.

I'm not sure what you mean by "explain" these places to you. If you are from there, or live there, you should be aware of the conditions. The main leftist party there is up against the Imperialist, economic and military aid, of the US. It doesn't stand much of a chance, despite having widespread support.

[ÑóẊîöʼn]

Immortal Ace, don't listen to either of these fuckwits. One of them thinks people are so infantile and stupid that they need a 'party' to guide them, and the other one's a kiddie who's just learned about swearwords.

There is no money under communism, the phrase 'to each according to their need, from each according to their ability' applies here. there is what's known as a 'gift economy' whereby people freely give each other what they need. This is no biggie with small things like shoes or food, ('personal property' that can only be used by one person) but with bigger things like power plants and coal mines, everybody affected by the development must be consulted.

Every attempt to establish communism has failed because of the fatal flaws of the Marxist-Leninist paradigm.

[Immortal Ace]

Originally posted by [email protected] 17 2004, 11:36 AM
Immortal Ace, don't listen to either of these fuckwits. One of them thinks people are so infantile and stupid that they need a 'party' to guide them, and the other one's a kiddie who's just learned about swearwords.

There is no money under communism, the phrase 'to each according to their need, from each according to their ability' applies here. there is what's known as a 'gift economy' whereby people freely give each other what they need. This is no biggie with small things like shoes or food, ('personal property' that can only be used by one person) but with bigger things like power plants and coal mines, everybody affected by the development must be consulted.

Every attempt to establish communism has failed because of the fatal flaws of the Marxist-Leninist paradigm.
Or is it that Humans strive to be better? It's human nature. We want to be better than others. Trust me, in a society where there is no money what is going to get people to work for the community? Face it, money is the single most huge incentive in the world. Take that away and everyone will sit there and be lazy. Hmm, I'm starting to like Communism. Be lazy and be equal to the guy who works his ass off. :lol:

[elijahcraig]

Immortal Ace, don't listen to either of these fuckwits. One of them thinks people are so infantile and stupid that they need a 'party' to guide them, and the other one's a kiddie who's just learned about swearwords.

Oh no, I've been insulted. Maybe we should restrict you.

[Immortal Ace]

Originally posted by [email protected] 17 2004, 11:40 AM

Oh no, I've been insulted. Maybe we should restrict you.
Like OMG! You are teh witty one! We must all now bow.

You failed, go play in traffic.

[elijahcraig]

Have you ever posted at thephora.org? You sound like you'd fit in there.

[Immortal Ace]

Originally posted by [email protected] 17 2004, 11:44 AM
Have you ever posted at thephora.org? You sound like you'd fit in there.
The who.org?

I don't like you for two reasons, you're a commie and you have a picture of a fucking chink in your avatar. My hatred comes from the latter...

[ÑóẊîöʼn]

Or is it that Humans strive to be better? It's human nature.

Prove that human nature exists.


We want to be better than others.

No we don't. We want to happy. under capitalist society 'more stuff' = 'more happiness'


Face it, money is the single most huge incentive in the world.

Only because without it you'll starve!


Take that away and everyone will sit there and be lazy.

No they won't. Without money as a barrier, people will gravitate towards work they enjoy.


Hmm, I'm starting to like Communism. Be lazy and be equal to the guy who works his ass off.

Others can simply refuse to give you food, clothing etc. because you don't work.

[elijahcraig]

The who.org?

I don't like you for two reasons, you're a commie and you have a picture of a fucking chink in your avatar. My hatred comes from the latter...

Nazi site.

Maybe "chink" is enough to get you banned. We'll see.


Like OMG! You are teh witty one! We must all now bow.

You failed, go play in traffic.

This from a guy who comes on a communist board and posts a thread on the most cliche argument against Marxism of the last century.

[Immortal Ace]

Originally posted by [email protected] 17 2004, 11:46 AM
Others can simply refuse to give you food, clothing etc. because you don't work.
I'll steal it. Isn't pure communism stateless? That means no police. Another flaw.

[ÑóẊîöʼn]

I'll steal it. Isn't pure communism stateless? That means no police. Another flaw.

Theft eh? well for your first offence you'll probably just get a finger wagging. A second offence will get you driven out of town by the militia.

[Immortal Ace]

Originally posted by [email protected] 17 2004, 11:48 AM
Maybe "chink" is enough to get you banned. We'll see.
Yes because obviously I care if I'm banned or not.

Really, I think Hitler had the right idea on how to deal with you filthy communists. If it were up to me, you all would be treated many times worse than Jews in Nazi Germany. Maybe the world would have such a great man to do that one day. And before you say "Like that will ever happen," sit and they about how likely International Communism is....

[Immortal Ace]

Oh and just to say this, Che doesn't live. I find it hilarious that moron failed and was executed in Bolivia (Was it Bolivia?). Either way, hilarious.

[ÑóẊîöʼn]

Yes because obviously I care if I'm banned or not.

Really, I think Hitler had the right idea on how to deal with you filthy communists. If it were up to me, you all would be treated many times worse than Jews in Nazi Germany. Maybe the world would have such a great man to do that one day. And before you say "Like that will ever happen," sit and they about how likely International Communism is....

Let this be a lesson to all pussy liberal wankers who think reactionaries should have free speech: they won't give us any.

'Great men' don't exist.

[elijahcraig]

Yes because obviously I care if I'm banned or not.

Hmmm...


Really, I think Hitler had the right idea on how to deal with you filthy communists. If it were up to me, you all would be treated many times worse than Jews in Nazi Germany. Maybe the world would have such a great man to do that one day. And before you say "Like that will ever happen," sit and they about how likely International Communism is....

You're so outrageous, keep the shocking comments coming, they're so amazingly offensive.

How cliche, once again.

[DaCuBaN]

Yes because obviously I care if I'm banned or not

Then I must ask, if you hold nothing but contempt for this site, why are you still here?


I think Hitler had the right idea on how to deal with you filthy communists. If it were up to me, you all would be treated many times worse than Jews in Nazi Germany. Maybe the world would have such a great man to do that one day. And before you say "Like that will ever happen," sit and they about how likely International Communism is....

Quite frankly, you have nothing to add to any debate. Go back to your hole, kid. Unless of course you actually want to put forward something of substance; something you believe in; something that has any bearing on reality.

Otherwise, please depart henceforth, never to return.

[elijahcraig]

Oh and just to say this, Che doesn't live. I find it hilarious that moron failed and was executed in Bolivia (Was it Bolivia?). Either way, hilarious.

Keep 'em comin', cowboy.

[Immortal Ace]

Originally posted by [email protected] 17 2004, 11:54 AM
Quite frankly, you have nothing to add to any debate.
I believe I had. Niether of you still have told me an incentive in a Communist Country. And as for the Commie/Hitler remark, that is my true belief.

[CabalTherapy]

Originally posted by [email protected] 17 2004, 11:46 AM

Prove that human nature exists.



No we don't. We want to happy. under capitalist society 'more stuff' = 'more happiness'



Only because without it you'll starve!



No they won't. Without money as a barrier, people will gravitate towards work they enjoy.



Others can simply refuse to give you food, clothing etc. because you don't work.
I don't know about you noxion but more things that make me happy = more happiness I think that applies to everyone in any economic system.

If you're so concerned over people's happiness why wont you allow immortal_ace to live in comfort without a job?

[Immortal Ace]

NoXion, do you seriously believe the youth of today or of any generation for that matter will actually work where there is no monetary system? Honestly...

Let me add this, who would work when there is no monetary system? Who? Why work if you can hang out, fuck, etc.?

[CabalTherapy]

Originally posted by [email protected] 17 2004, 11:54 AM

Let this be a lesson to all pussy liberal wankers who think reactionaries should have free speech: they won't give us any.

'Great men' don't exist.
why shouldn't fascists be given free speech just because they wouldn't give it to us if they were in power? quite a proprietary use of "free speech" there

[elijahcraig]

I believe I had. Niether of you still have told me an incentive in a Communist Country.

Incentive could be explained by 1) want to conform to social standards of working, 2) want of good home for your family, 3) love of work (rarity I assume), 4) material gain, make better life for yourself, etc. You would get nothing by sitting around, lazing about as you said, and I've already said no, you won't be supported if you don't help the society out.


And as for the Commie/Hitler remark, that is my true belief.

Who the fuck cares? If I had my choice, you'd be in a fucking labor camp or dead, but since we're on the internet, and not carrying out beliefs on one another, there is no use to repeatedly position yourself on the issue of what to do with communists. It has nothing to do with the thread.

[CabalTherapy]

i am in my mid twenties

[elijahcraig]

why shouldn't fascists be given free speech just because they wouldn't give it to us if they were in power? quite a proprietary use of "free speech" there

Because I say so.

[CabalTherapy]

Because I say so.

I oppose you

[Immortal Ace]

Originally posted by [email protected] 17 2004, 12:01 PM
Economic Left/Right -9.88
Social Libertarian/Authoritarian -7.79
Gotta love PoliticalCompass.org. My score was:

Economic Left/Right 7.32
Social Libertarian/Authoritarian 8. something

I wonder if I'd be more Authoritarian if I wasn't Atheist...

[DaCuBaN]

My apologies, IA. Let us start over here...


NoXion, do you seriously believe the youth of today or of any generation for that matter will actually work where there is no monetary system? Honestly...

Why does money have to be used? It is perfectly feasible that we could operate society on a 'gift economy'. Bear in mind most people here (except those who are seriously deluded as to what they promote) accept that there would be a 'loss of luxury' under a changeover to a socialist/communist society. That is, a focus would be put on making life possible for as many people as we can, rather than making life comfortable for those who 'try harder' as is in the current system.


Let me add this, who would work when there is no monetary system? Who? Why work if you can hang out, fuck, etc.?

To live. Bear in mind we advocate a society where you are reliant on your 'comrades' - you cannot be entirely self sufficient, and there is no 'big brother' state to watch over you, so you must band together with those around you to protect what you commonly administer. This in itself should be incentive enough.


If you're so concerned over people's happiness why wont you allow immortal_ace to live in comfort without a job?

For a time perhaps this would be possible... but if he doesn't contribute anything to society, then over time the generosity of those around him will dwindle, and he would be forced to do somethin simply to get enough bread. I'll reiterate, under communism, the incentive is your survival

[ÑóẊîöʼn]

Niether of you still have told me an incentive in a Communist Country.

The incentive is to benefit your community.


NoXion, do you seriously believe the youth of today or of any generation for that matter will actually work where there is no monetary system? Honestly...

The 'working youth' aren't as lazy as you think they are. And the proletariat in general are getting smarter each generation.


Let me add this, who would work when there is no monetary system? Who? Why work if you can hang out, fuck, etc.?

Well, you can hang with your friends while working. Work isn't just to sustain society, it's a social experience.

And with the automation/replacement/elimination of boring/pointless jobs, you'll have more time to fuck, trust me.

[Immortal Ace]

To live. Bear in mind we advocate a society where you are reliant on your 'comrades' - you cannot be entirely self sufficient, and there is no 'big brother' state to watch over you, so you must band together with those around you to protect what you commonly administer. This in itself should be incentive enough.

People aren't 100% reliable. Have a chat with some people, you'll find they will agree with what I just said. Personally, I would rather not rely on other people. Nothing good can come from it.

[Immortal Ace]

'loss of luxury'

Are you serious? Losing luxury will make me very unhappy.

[elijahcraig]

Are you serious? Losing luxury will make me very unhappy.

Would you rather have a piece of jewelry and a nice car, or have communism and no starving millions?

The way in which you answer this question determines if this thead should continue or not.

[ÑóẊîöʼn]

People aren't 100% reliable. Have a chat with some people, you'll find they will agree with what I just said. Personally, I would rather not rely on other people. Nothing good can come from it.

So you don't rely on the government ensuring bridges are stable and safe to cross? you don't rely on your employer handling his company sensibly and ensuring you get paid? If you can't rely on others, you might as well become a hermit.

[Immortal Ace]

Originally posted by [email protected] 17 2004, 12:11 PM
or have communism and no starving millions?
Hmmm, America is Capitalist and there aren't starving millions here. Seems that turned your statement to utter shit, huh?

[DaCuBaN]

Personally, I would rather not rely on other people. Nothing good can come from it.

As things stand, you rely on the baker to make bread, for which you pay him. The only difference under communism is you wouldn't have to pay in the same way.


Are you serious? Losing luxury will make me very unhappy

Loss of your luxury and an increase of another's. Simply put it's robin hood politics ;)


the proletariat in general are getting smarter each generation.

I heard an interesting theory on this from an old friend of mine who's been teaching primary school children (5-11) in the UK for the last 25 years. She would disagree with you most strongly. What has in fact happened with the free education system is that we have reduced the number of people that fall into what you term 'the proletariat - their education has allowed them to increase their capital and 'advance' into the 'petit-bourgious'. What is left in the 'proletariat' are often what are considered as many to be the dregs of society.

I don't like this, and I disagree with it... However I can see the logic involved.

[CabalTherapy]

Originally posted by [email protected] 17 2004, 12:11 PM

Would you rather have a piece of jewelry and a nice car, or have communism and no starving millions?

The way in which you answer this question determines if this thead should continue or not.
how does possessing jewelry and a car entail starving millions?

[Immortal Ace]

Originally posted by [email protected] 17 2004, 12:12 PM

So you don't rely on the government ensuring bridges are stable and safe to cross? you don't rely on your employer handling his company sensibly and ensuring you get paid? If you can't rely on others, you might as well become a hermit.
I said people aren't 100% reliable. I'll have to restate that comment somehow,

[CabalTherapy]

i am a menstruating 13 year old japanese girl and i am also a marxist.

asl anyone?

[elijahcraig]

how does possessing jewelry and a car entail starving millions

*sighs for batman*

[ÑóẊîöʼn]

Capitalist policies have millions starving in Africa and elsewhere.

And you don't think people are starving on the streets of america?

[CabalTherapy]

don't sigh at me faggot. youre the one trying to lay a baseless guilt trip.

[elijahcraig]

don't sigh at me faggot. youre the one trying to lay a baseless guilt trip.

Aren't you the guy who claimed homosexuality to be "bourgeois"?

[ÑóẊîöʼn]

I heard an interesting theory on this from an old friend of mine who's been teaching primary school children (5-11) in the UK for the last 25 years. She would disagree with you most strongly. What has in fact happened with the free education system is that we have reduced the number of people that fall into what you term 'the proletariat - their education has allowed them to increase their capital and 'advance' into the 'petit-bourgious'. What is left in the 'proletariat' are often what are considered as many to be the dregs of society.

I'm using proletariat in it's modern sense ie people who don't own the means of production and have no power to hire and fire workers.

[Immortal Ace]

Originally posted by [email protected] 17 2004, 12:17 PM
Capitalist policies have millions starving in Africa and elsewhere.

And you don't think people are starving on the streets of america?
Please, Africa is a complete shithole and nothing can help it. If there is a god, lets just say has completely forgot about Africa.

[CabalTherapy]

arent you that gay guy? well atleast youre restricted. we wouldnt want capitalist homos like you ruining this forum.

[elijahcraig]

arent you that gay guy? well atleast youre restricted. we wouldnt want capitalist homos like you ruining this forum.

Bisexual, actually.


Please, Africa is a complete shithole and nothing can help it. If there is a god, lets just say has completely forgot about Africa.

YES, and Africa is a "complete shithole" as a result of capitalism, colonialism, from very early in colonial history to the present.

[DaCuBaN]

I'm using proletariat in it's modern sense ie people who don't own the means of production and have no power to hire and fire workers

Share-holding is essentially the same thing of course, except you don't get any real power in your hands. I still think that bit was valid.


Please, Africa is a complete shithole and nothing can help it. If there is a god, lets just say has completely forgot about Africa

Africa is indeed a complete shithole... so why aren't we doing more to either get everyone out or to make it better?

That aside, the same thing is happening everywhere. By your definition there are large areas of the US are 'complete shitholes' as with every other nation on the planet.

Quite simply you don&#39;t know what you are talking about I&#39;m afraid <_<

[CabalTherapy]

incorrect, africa is a shithole because of their culture, colonialism and U.N. capitalism (a subtle difference)

[Immortal Ace]

Originally posted by [email protected] 17 2004, 12:23 PM

Bisexual, actually.



YES, and Africa is a "complete shithole" as a result of capitalism, colonialism, from very early in colonial history to the present.
Bisexual? Ok, I don&#39;t want to see another word from you in my topic. I will from now on ignore anything you say and so forth. I hope you contract HIV/AIDs.

Back on topic.

[elijahcraig]

incorrect, africa is a shithole because of their culture, colonialism and U.N. capitalism (a subtle difference)

What do you mean by "culture"?

[ÑóẊîöʼn]

incorrect, africa is a shithole because of their culture,

What is wrong with their culture?

[Immortal Ace]

Originally posted by [email protected] 17 2004, 12:26 PM

What is wrong with their culture?
You cannot be serious. Their culture is just....

I once saw in one country Women have their Clit cut so they don&#39;t recieve pleasure from sex. This is done from preventing the women from cheating on their husband and is done as soon as they are born. These people are just fucking insane. Plain and Simple. They are actually worse than the Middle East. And that is saying a lot.

I saw this on a documentary.

[elijahcraig]

Bisexual? Ok, I don&#39;t want to see another word from you in my topic. I will from now on ignore anything you say and so forth. I hope you contract HIV/AIDs.

Back on topic.

Wow, I never get that. You&#39;re so radical.

[Immortal Ace]

Originally posted by [email protected] 17 2004, 12:30 PM

Wow, I never get that. You&#39;re so radical.
The differnce is others probably just say that. I actually mean that and have disowned my sister in front of my entire family when she came out. I seriously hope she has a slow and terrible death.

[ÑóẊîöʼn]

You cannot be serious. Their culture is just....

I once saw in one country Women have their Clit cut so they don&#39;t recieve pleasure from sex. This is done from preventing the women from cheating on their husband and is done as soon as they are born. These people are just fucking insane. Plain and Simple. They are actually worse than the Middle East. And that is saying a lot.

I saw this on a documentary.

Female circumcision is a vile practice but I fail to see how it would affect the economy.

[CabalTherapy]

Originally posted by [email protected] 17 2004, 12:26 PM

What do you mean by "culture"?
whatever it is in their culture that breeds behavior like men raping chickens, chasing eachother with machetes constantly, raping women with beer bottles, having sex with virgins to cure aids etc. their mud huts suck too.

[revolutionindia]

Homosexuals are humans don&#39;t be so hard on them

[DaCuBaN]

I once saw in one country Women have their Clit cut so they don&#39;t recieve pleasure from sex. This is done from preventing the women from cheating on their husband and is done as soon as they are born. These people are just fucking insane. Plain and Simple. They are actually worse than the Middle East. And that is saying a lot.


Firstly, I&#39;m not advocating this, nor had I any prior knowledge of this practice.

What exactly is the problem here? There are some cultures who castrate their men. Never heard of a eunuch (http://www.eunuch.org/) before?

[Immortal Ace]

Originally posted by [email protected] 17 2004, 12:32 PM
Homosexuals are humans don&#39;t be so hard on them
Bullshit, Vermin amounts to more than homosexuals. Where is Auschwitz when you need it?

[revolutionindia]

Originally posted by [email protected] 17 2004, 06:02 PM
whatever it is in their culture that breeds behavior like men raping chickens, chasing eachother with machetes constantly, raping women with beer bottles, having sex with virgins to cure aids etc. their mud huts suck too.
Actually all this started once the missionaries started fucking around with
africans .

They dcould not handle Christ and AFrican gods together so
they ended up being crazy

[Immortal Ace]

Originally posted by [email protected] 17 2004, 12:32 PM

Firstly, I&#39;m not advocating this, nor had I any prior knowledge of this practice.

What exactly is the problem here? There are some cultures who castrate their men. Never heard of a eunuch (http://www.eunuch.org/) before?
...

That is just stupid. What morons practice this sort of culture?

[elijahcraig]

The differnce is others probably just say that. I actually mean that and have disowned my sister in front of my entire family when she came out. I seriously hope she has a slow and terrible death.

Again, you&#39;re so radical. I bet you&#39;ve never said these sorts of things to a communist. Me? If I ever saw you, you&#39;d be bleeding all over the floor, little buddy.


whatever it is in their culture that breeds behavior like men raping chickens, chasing eachother with machetes constantly, raping women with beer bottles, having sex with virgins to cure aids etc. their mud huts suck too.

All of these things happen in America.

[elijahcraig]

Bullshit, Vermin amounts to more than homosexuals. Where is Auschwitz when you need it?

I&#39;m really screwed...

I&#39;m a bisexual, part jewish, communist, anti-nazi....hmmm...how many deaths would that come out to?

[Immortal Ace]

Originally posted by [email protected] 17 2004, 12:36 PM
bet you&#39;ve never said these sorts of things to a communist.
I&#39;ve never met a communist, If I had, then I didn&#39;t know they were. But if I knew they were, I&#39;d tell them then assault them. Probably Assault then tell them.

[DaCuBaN]

That is just stupid. What morons practice this sort of culture?

Hmmm... well the site is based in the US :lol:

Have a nice day&#33;

[Immortal Ace]

Originally posted by [email protected] 17 2004, 12:38 PM

I&#39;m really screwed...

I&#39;m a bisexual, part jewish, communist, anti-nazi....hmmm...how many deaths would that come out to?
Is it me or are Jews communist? Marx, Trotsky...all Jews. Damn these kikes.

[CabalTherapy]

It doesn&#39;t happen with as much frequency i&#39;m sure or involves thousands of men

[elijahcraig]

I&#39;ve never met a communist, If I had, then I didn&#39;t know they were. But if I knew they were, I&#39;d tell them then assault them. Probably Assault then tell them.

I&#39;d throw flowers and smelly ointments at you, then lay you down on the bed and give you a fun time...it may relieve some of your repressed feelings and stress.

[elijahcraig]

Is it me or are Jews communist? Marx, Trotsky...all Jews. Damn these kikes.

You named two people.

[Immortal Ace]

Originally posted by [email protected] 17 2004, 12:41 PM

I&#39;d throw flowers and smelly ointments at you, then lay you down on the bed and give you a fun time...it may relieve some of your repressed feelings and stress.
Tell me, do you take up the ass, Pinko?

[ÑóẊîöʼn]

I&#39;d throw flowers and smelly ointments at you, then lay you down on the bed and give you a fun time...it may relieve some of your repressed feelings and stress.

You&#39;re killing me :lol:

[elijahcraig]

Tell me, do you take up the ass, Pinko?

Are you feeling aroused?

[Immortal Ace]

Originally posted by [email protected] 17 2004, 12:44 PM

Are you feeling aroused?
The real question is are you? Tell me, ever take a shot in the face?

[ÑóẊîöʼn]

Now now, ladies, handbags away.

Score:

Commies 1 - 0 Immortal Ace

[DaCuBaN]

Is it me or are Jews communist?

OK... let&#39;s see.... am I jewish? y&#39;know last time I checked I was sure was a reformed catholic (in case that&#39;s too much that means I don&#39;t believe anymore) yet i&#39;m a communist.

Guess that theory&#39;s going out the window buddy.


I&#39;ve never met a communist, If I had, then I didn&#39;t know they were. But if I knew they were, I&#39;d tell them then assault them. Probably Assault then tell them.

See that face to the left of this post? Remember it. Come find me, and we&#39;ll see :rolleyes:

Incidentally, were you aware that threatening violence is a tactic of misinformation - a last resort when you&#39;ve run out of &#39;witty put-downs&#39; and/or viable information

So, I&#39;ll ask again... Anything to contribute, or wouldst thou care to leave?

[ÑóẊîöʼn]

I&#39;m certainly not Jewish.

IA is talking out of his rectum as usual.

[Immortal Ace]

Originally posted by [email protected] 17 2004, 12:48 PM

OK... let&#39;s see.... am I jewish? y&#39;know last time I checked I was sure was a reformed catholic (in case that&#39;s too much that means I don&#39;t believe anymore) yet i&#39;m a communist.

Guess that theory&#39;s going out the window buddy.



See that face to the left of this post? Remember it. Come find me, and we&#39;ll see :rolleyes:

Incidentally, were you aware that threatening violence is a tactic of misinformation - a last resort when you&#39;ve run out of &#39;witty put-downs&#39; and/or viable information

So, I&#39;ll ask again... Anything to contribute, or wouldst thou care to leave?
Your face, do your eyebrows and get a BlowOut for a haircut.

[Immortal Ace]

Besides Jewish, Catholic, whatever. All religions are a form of mental illness.

[elijahcraig]

The real question is are you? Tell me, ever take a shot in the face?

Many speak and change subjects in order to conceal their real feelings.

Please don&#39;t cum yet, I&#39;m trying to get this thread to reach 10 pages before you get banned.

[DaCuBaN]

Your face, do your eyebrows and get a BlowOut for a haircut.

eyebrow if you please. :P

It says a lot that I&#39;m willing to show exactly who I am to the world alongside what I stand for. You evidently have no such courage kid.

[elijahcraig]

Besides Jewish, Catholic, whatever. All religions are a form of mental illness.

Hey, finally a plus&#33;

Now you&#39;re really turning me on, my love bug.

[revolutionindia]

In a an argument
He who throws mud,only loses more ground

Immortal ace you are right know floating in mid air :rolleyes:

thank you for enlightning us on how communism sucks and africans have sex with chickens and
homosexuals should be killed

Please leave

[DaCuBaN]

Besides Jewish, Catholic, whatever. All religions are a form of mental illness.

Indeed... and that is why Marx wrote that &#39;Religion is the sigh of the oppressed; the opiate of the masses&#39; and it is written in the communist manifesto that under such a society religion would become unneccesary and die out.

So basically your argument here is bollocks.


a BlowOut

This would be some hip new american slang I&#39;m unaware of no doubt... wtf?

[Immortal Ace]

Originally posted by [email protected] 17 2004, 12:56 PM

Indeed... and that is why Marx wrote that &#39;Religion is the sigh of the oppressed; the opiate of the masses&#39; and it is written in the communist manifesto that under such a society religion would become unneccesary and die out.

So basically your argument here is bollocks.



This would be some hip new american slang I&#39;m unaware of no doubt... wtf?
Um no, being Athiest doesn&#39;t make you a communist. I am proof of that.

[Immortal Ace]

Originally posted by [email protected] 17 2004, 12:56 PM

Indeed... and that is why Marx wrote that &#39;Religion is the sigh of the oppressed; the opiate of the masses&#39; and it is written in the communist manifesto that under such a society religion would become unneccesary and die out.

So basically your argument here is bollocks.



This would be some hip new american slang I&#39;m unaware of no doubt... wtf?
Eh, if I didn&#39;t have a hat on the picture I am about to upload, you&#39;d see what it is. I can add attachments, goody.

Now where is that digitial camera, I have some photos on them.

[CabalTherapy]

revolutionindia, go back to india.

[elijahcraig]

Um no, being Athiest doesn&#39;t make you a communist. I am proof of that.

You dumbass.

[Immortal Ace]

I should be embarrased with the mess in my room, really...

[revolutionindia]

Originally posted by [email protected] 17 2004, 06:29 PM
revolutionindia, go back to india.
I ma sitting in India

Cabal theraphy I was missing you :wub:

I don&#39;t know why ?

Probalby it&#39;s your dashing smile in your avatar

Oh you are so handsome&#33;&#33;&#33;&#33;&#33;

[Immortal Ace]

Why does my hat appear to have a gold rim? <_<

[revolutionindia]

Originally posted by Immortal [email protected] 17 2004, 06:36 PM
Why does my hat appear to have a gold rim? <_<
Because you are capitalist

[Immortal Ace]

Originally posted by [email protected] 17 2004, 01:07 PM
Because you are capitalist
I KNEW IT&#33; DAMNIT TO HELL&#33;

[revolutionindia]

Coming back to your original question
"The incentive to work in a communist country"

I agree the pay may not be good

But MOney is nothing

You don&#39;t need money in a communist society

becasue the government takes care of you

The quality of life is much higher and chances of Self -Realization
by serving the people and country are higher .

If you think the purpose of life is to make money
by hook or crook,fuck as many women as possible in your lifetime
and eat so much that become so Fat that you don&#39;t
fit through the door

Then you are living in Capitalist country

[elijahcraig]

fuck as many women as possible in your lifetime
and eat so much that become so Fat that you don&#39;t
fit through the door

Is the first part of this possible if the latter have is done?

[revolutionindia]

Originally posted by [email protected] 17 2004, 06:56 PM

Is the first part of this possible if the latter have is done?
Oh ya Americans fuck everwhere but in their Beds

[DaCuBaN]

I think what&#39;s intended here is that sex is good physical exercise...

[elijahcraig]

Oh ya Americans fuck everwhere but in their Beds

?