U.S. Senate--- Rich Men's Club

[Agent provocateur]

http://news.yahoo.com/news?tmpl=story&u=/a...e_disclosures_2 (http://news.yahoo.com/news?tmpl=story&u=/ap/20040615/ap_on_go_co/senate_disclosures_2)

[Guerrilla22]

That's American politics for ya. Every single member of the governmnet comes from an affluent family with power.

[Funky Monk]

I'd just like to use the phrase "no shit Sherlock" here.

The US political system does a lot to try to exclude poorer members, it isnt entirely succesful but on a crude level, it is dominated by rich bastards.

[h&s]

I heard that only a handful of senators aren't millionaires.
How can people like them ever understand the people?

[Colombia]

Originally posted by hammer&[email protected] 15 2004, 03:21 PM
I heard that only a handful of senators aren't millionaires.
How can people like them ever understand the people?
Because they once were the people.

[h&s]

Are you a capitalist or something?

[Funky Monk]

Why is it that anyone able to answer a question from a non-extremist perspective accused of being a capitalist?

[Guerrilla22]

Originally posted by [email protected] 15 2004, 03:36 PM
Because they once were the people.
No they weren't. Most of these guys were born into ultra-rich families, like your friend Bush, they have no idea what it's like to be the average American, that's why the governmnet alienates the working class. Colombia, I wonder if you actually believe any of the statements you make, or if you just say the things you do just to piss people off.

[cormacobear]

Maintaining the status quo, keeping the rich rich is what it has always been about. The American revolution wasn't this glorius struggle for liberation, it was a bunch of rich white men not wanting to pay their taxes.

They designed the American govt' to keep the rich rich and keep the oblivious poor in their place.

They've done a pretty good job 85% of Americas wealth is in the hands of 5%. The only people who can afford the level and quality of education necessary to be in gov't are the extremely rich. The rich control the media. And the poor remain oblivious and in their place............

[Hate Is Art]

I was shocked by that huge sum! If anyone thinks Kerry will change anything you are very much mistaken!

[h&s]

Why is it that anyone able to answer a question from a non-extremist perspective accused of being a capitalist?
I am not, and I would not do that.
Columbia is saying that the uber-rich were once the people, and that they can somehow understand the people.
He seems to be supporting the capitalist view that earning your fortune from business is OK and that anyone can do it.

[Funky Monk]

Originally posted by hammer&[email protected] 15 2004, 04:47 PM
Are you a capitalist or something?
Im sorry but im just annoyed about this namecalling between members. Sure there are some high-born people in the Congress but what about the entrepeneurs and self-made men and women in there? Surely they can understand the needs of some of their fellow Americans?

[fernando]

Originally posted by Funky [email protected] 16 2004, 04:45 PM
Im sorry but im just annoyed about this namecalling between members. Sure there are some high-born people in the Congress but what about the entrepeneurs and self-made men and women in there? Surely they can understand the needs of some of their fellow Americans?
But how many of them are self made men? Only a very few are that lucky to reach that point. You have to be in the right place in the right time to erach something. You dont have fair chances. If you are rich you will probably stay rich or be richer, and if you are poor, you will probably stay poor or go poorer

[h&s]

Funky Monk I understand what you are saying, I just get pissed off sometimes with people defending the things I am against.

[Moveable Feast]

Originally posted by Funky Monk:

Im sorry but im just annoyed about this namecalling between members. Sure there are some high-born people in the Congress but what about the entrepeneurs and self-made men and women in there? Surely they can understand the needs of some of their fellow Americans?




You are correct. Many of those within congress understand the people. Those that oppose what you have just stated have gone over the edge with their extremist-neoliberal-socialist beliefs, and therefore forgotten that capitalism does work...unlike pure communism.

I hope the oppressed citizens of North Korea eat well tonight under the morbid government that contains them. I know I will.

[Pawn Power]

the amount of wealth these people have makes me sick

[h&s]

and therefore forgotten that capitalism does work...unlike pure communism.

There has never been a pure communist country, so how you know this is beyond me.



I hope the oppressed citizens of North Korea eat well tonight under the morbid government that contains them. I know I will.
Whats that supposed to mean?
Who here actually considers the DPRK communist?

[praxis1966]

I believe, in his own misguided and uninformed way, he was attempting to suggest something about starvation in a communist country while he grows fat in a capitalist one.


There has never been a pure communist country, so how you know this is beyond me.

On this point I would have to disagree with you. The Sandanista government in Nicaragua was probably the only truly communist democracy. The problem was the CIA instigated a coup by backing a bunch of right-wing guerrillas and overthrew them before we could find out whether or not it would work in the long run.

[h&s]

Yeah OK I didn't really know about that, but surely they weren't in power long enough to develop into pure communists, as this takes a long time.