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themessiah
13th June 2004, 14:05
THE LIKELITUDE OF ACHIEVEING TRANSCEDENCE:

transcedence should be taken to mean enlightenment. nirvana. and all other applicable ideas.

is it possible for humanity to transcend? and if so, how? and if so, what does it mean? what would it mean for a transcedental human to exist? how would he or she function in a world of non-transcedents? what would their mission be? how would they achieve it? upon completion, what would be the next step?

for transcedence to even be thought of, ALL facets of existence must be explored. this is in relation to the self. the mind. the body. the spirit. upon knowing and realizing all of these facets, the next phase can begin. how to relate the self to others. the drawback is finding ANOTHER who has already explored all facets of existence in relation to the self. this is necessary for comparitive reasons.

with another to compare exploration data with, the table is set to transcend. it clearly IS possible. these elements MUST, however, be met. for how transcedental would it be for a being to even contemplate transcedence without completing the exploration and conclusion of regular existence? we are speaking of transcedence here. to move beyond and outside of normative reality, as an ability, all routes towards it must be studied and categorized. it is impossible without doing so. why? clearly, as a being who HAS completed this study and categorization there would be NOTHING left except to transcend. or die.

that leaves the final pre-transcedental state necessary for actual transcedence, according to this account of it. the comparison of ALL data with ANOTHER who has similarly completed the study and analysis of the self, THEIR SELF, and is at the conclusive moments of their pre-transcedental existence. thus, the comparison can begin.

but what can happen upon such a comparison?

simple. through cross referencing and comparitive reasoning, ALL components of reality CAN be extrapolated and forecast through two points of comparison. and TWO fully complete and anxious beings can do so.

there is a drawback, and that is duration. a beings lifespan is limited so as to properly prevent the comparison from completion, according to this theorist. and so transcedence may not be possible. yet if it were, would it not be possible, THROUGH transcedence, to manipulate ALL reality as it surrounds the individual? clearly, as we are speaking of transcedence, IT IS. and so knowing whether or not transcedence CAN be achieved is ALREADY achieved in the MOMENT of its realization, IN THE FUTURE, in the past. For this is transcedence.

all that is really required, then, is to find another to make the comparison with. this other MUST, however, be in the complete and exact pre-transcedental state. and so, prior to comparison, and at the moment the comparison begins, TRANSCEDENCE is ALREADY ACHIEVED.

as for the rest of the world and functioning, none of it matters. in transcedence, it is like a speaker to a sound. a bowl to a soup. a road to a car. necessary ONLY to arrive at the destination. to contain the sustenance. to fascilitate the reaction. transcedents live only to maintain their existence within the transcend.

apathy maybe
14th June 2004, 02:01
I don't quite understand what you are saying.

It has been the subject of science fiction stories that humans have, uploaded themselves into computers or otherwise abandoned their bodies. The process is not normally described but it does not require any level of 'goodness'. It is generally described as the next step in evolution. We become like the aliens in 2001: A Space Odyssey. Completely powerful.

themessiah
14th June 2004, 03:26
transcend

similiar to ascend, as in, the ascension

such as how Jesus and Mary ascended

fields such as asceticism exist in order to heighten the likelitude

anyway

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