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The Feral Underclass
13th June 2004, 12:34
I thought i'd share this...


"..the major event of the twentieth century has been the abandonment of the values of liberty on the part of the revolutionary movement, the weakening of Libertarian Socialism, vis-a-vis Caesarist and militaristic Socialism. Since then, a great hope has disappeared from the world to be replaced by a deep sense of emptiness in the hearts of all who yearn for Freedom...."

Taken from 'Neither Victims nor Executioners'
Pedro Alonso Lopez
17th June 2004, 18:36
I'm sorry but there is nothing to imply anything of anarchism there?
ItalianFist
18th June 2004, 04:46
I dont like that quote, maybe because im not sure if i fully comprehended it. its saying basically that revolutionary violent leftist movements tend to do damage to those same leftists values of liberty, and overall gives social libertarians a bad name, right?
The Feral Underclass
18th June 2004, 07:07
He is saying that one of the biggest tragedies in the twentieth century is the abandonment of libertarian ideals in socialism to be replaced with authotarian socialism. He says that because that has happened "...a great hope has disappeared from the world to be replaced by a deep sense of emptiness in the hearts of all who yearn for Freedom...."
percept¡on
18th June 2004, 14:47
"Mistaken ideas always end in bloodshed, but in every case it is someone else's blood. That is why some of our thinkers feel free to say just about anything." - Greatest Camus quote of all time.


Props to Camus, he was one of the only of the French communist intelligentsia to come out and say the USSR was not communist, never was communist, and never will be communist while the rest of the Parisian elite were apologizing for Stalin's crimes.
elijahcraig
20th June 2004, 06:58
Camus was not an anarchist. Simply put. To judge him as such would be to try to bend a complex mind into your own ideology.
The Feral Underclass
20th June 2004, 07:02
Originally posted by [email protected] 20 2004, 08:58 AM
Camus was not an anarchist. Simply put. To judge him as such would be to try to bend a complex mind into your own ideology.
Great refutation!

He certainly wasn't a leninist.
Pedro Alonso Lopez
20th June 2004, 13:10
Did he say he was?
The Feral Underclass
20th June 2004, 13:16
Originally posted by [email protected] 20 2004, 03:10 PM
Did he say he was?
No, he didn't. But at least now we're clear.
The Feral Underclass
20th June 2004, 13:26
Following the near heart attacks of some of the fucking philosophy nuts on this board I have changed the title of the thread...

so there, now we can all be happy!
elijahcraig
20th June 2004, 20:56
Great refutation!

He certainly wasn't a leninist.

Wouldn't that contradict what I just said?
elijahcraig
20th June 2004, 20:57
Following the near heart attacks of some of the fucking philosophy nuts on this board I have changed the title of the thread...

so there, now we can all be happy!

Fucking anarchist nut...

BTW, Camus was not a rationalist, so I see no possibility of Anarchism.
The Feral Underclass
20th June 2004, 20:59
Originally posted by [email protected] 20 2004, 10:56 PM

Wouldn't that contradict what I just said?
Yes I suppose it would.