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[confuzzeled]

[COLOR=blue][B] :blink: Okay, as many of you can see by the title of this post , I am lost!!!! I have always had an idea about who Che was, but while reading a book about a young boy who fled Cuba at the start of the revolution and having a boyfriend from Cuba, my sense of the man has changed. To most Americans (please keep in mind that I am American, but I do respect everyones beliefs and I am just looking for answers) Fidel Castro seems "crazy, for lack of a better term. Being that Che was in effect Castro's right hand man, many belive the same to be true. To me it seems that Che was not as "radical" as Fidel and in fact wanted the communist system to work as it would on paper-leaving the world in a state of utopia. So was Che in fact "The Good Guy" or the revolution so to speak?? I have written down the titles of books about Che and ones he wrote that you all have recommended and I have had them ordered , so soon I will have a better idea of the man behind the revolution. I just had to make this post to see if I could get some clarification.........and I think my boyfriend is sick of ttrying to explain it!!! hah Thank you for any help that you can offer.

Randi
PS Dont worry I dont wear my man's Che shirt like half of Americans do for no reason!

[solo_ar]

Originally posted by [email protected] 11 2004, 12:10 AM
[COLOR=blue] :blink: Okay, as many of you can see by the title of this post , I am lost!!!! I have always had an idea about who Che was, but while reading a book about a young boy who fled Cuba at the start of the revolution and having a boyfriend from Cuba, my sense of the man has changed. To most Americans (please keep in mind that I am American, but I do respect everyones beliefs and I am just looking for answers) Fidel Castro seems "crazy, for lack of a better term. Being that Che was in effect Castro's right hand man, many belive the same to be true. To me it seems that Che was not as "radical" as Fidel and in fact wanted the communist system to work as it would on paper-leaving the world in a state of utopia. So was Che in fact "The Good Guy" or the revolution so to speak?? I have written down the titles of books about Che and ones he wrote that you all have recommended and I have had them ordered , so soon I will have a better idea of the man behind the revolution. I just had to make this post to see if I could get some clarification.........and I think my boyfriend is sick of ttrying to explain it!!! hah Thank you for any help that you can offer.

Randi
PS Dont worry I dont wear my man's Che shirt like half of Americans do for no reason!
hmmm you sound anti-castro as if you are supposed to be. and if you are anti-castro, then you really can't love che.

[confuzzeled]

I agree with you that I sound very anti-Castro. I would have to admit that I am because all I have ever been taught was that Fidel and his actions were "bad". To be honest with you, the American schools don't really teach its students much about the revolution started by Fidel and Che. I am not trying to say that I "love" or "hate" anyone, I am just trying to get a better understanding about the men behind the movement. My interest was sparked in the revolution (im honestly not sure how or when) and it has been very hard for me to find non-biased information, especially in America. Im sorry if I said something offensive in my earlier post and I hope that this one is more clear. :unsure:

[Hate Is Art]

The four main men of the revolution were: Fidel Castro, Raul Castro, Ernesto "Che" Guevara and Camilo Cienfugos (sp?)

Fidel was the leader of what was then the "26 de Julio" Movement. His brother Raul and close friend Che were also heavily involved in the revolutionary struggle.

On the 1st of January 1959 Batista (America's puppet dictator in Cuba) fled the country and the rebels seized Havana and Santa Clara, Cuba's two biggest cities.

Fidel went about with agarian reforms and removing the power of the UFC (United Fruit Company) in Cuba and nationilising all private land.

The US tryed to overthrow the Communists in the Bay of Pigs invasion, it failed miserably and the US was humiliated by the small island nation.

Fidel soon set about alligning himself with Russia, the Cuban Missile Crisis followed after America took spy photo's of nuclear missiles in Cuba. This was the closest the world has ever come to a full blown nuclear.

The sites were dismantled in exchange for the dismantling of American bases in Turkey.

Che set off upon more revolutionary roads in Congo and later Bolivia, which was to be his last adventure.

Camilo Cienfugos died in a helicopter crash.

Fidel is still alive (just) as is probably going to replaced by Raul once he pops his clogs.

That was a [very] brief history of the early Cuban revolution, not much really happened of note afterwards. A couple of harmless PR and propoganda stunts really. As an extent of it's Socialist nature, it is probably the most progressivly forward nation out there, I would be lieing if I said everything is fine and rosy, but you have to remember it is a 3rd world nation and it is having to struggle against a huge bully pestering its everymove!

[h&s]

On the 1st of January 1959 Batista (America's puppet dictator in Cuba) fled the country and the rebels seized Havana and Santa Clara, Cuba's two biggest cities
Thats not strictly true; the U$ had pulled their support from Batista a couple of years before the rebels seized Havana.
While the rebels were going to win anyway, the U$ pulling support from Batista really fucked him

[Hate Is Art]

He being supported pretty much until the end though? The war hadn't been going on for two years.!

[SittingBull47]

Originally posted by Digital [email protected] 11 2004, 11:42 AM


Camilo Cienfugos died in a helicopter crash.

Fidel is still alive (just) as is probably going to replaced by Raul once he pops his clogs.


Cienfuegos. It's "1000 fires", I believe

Speaking of, recently Castro's physician was happy to announce that he wouldn't be surprised if Fidel lived to 140.
:lol: :cuba: :castro:

[Hate Is Art]

1000 Fires? What are you talking about?

[SittingBull47]

Camilo Cienfuegos. Cien fuegos apparently means 1000 fires en espanol.

[Kurai Tsuki]

It's good that you're ordering books about him :D That's a step more than many take.