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[thor]

ok so i know that in a communist govt, the govt regulates what u have (like wages, housing, cars, etc.). but do they also regulate personal items you want like cds, tvs, or even a guitar. are u allowed to have "stuff" i guess is what im asking. i would be fine with them regulating major things like houses but smaller items and misc. "stuff" i would probably have a problem with.

[renwan]

bascially in a communist goverment all of the houses are preperty of the goverment, once you die your house is for someone else, stuff like the house is goverments property.
the thing is that people has a wrong idea about communism, everyone doesent have the same exactly, let me explain:

the goverment provides equal housing for everyone, at the same time hospitals and education is free and goverment controlled, everyone has a job and gets paid exactly the same, so if the goverment provides all your basic need what you do with your money is your business and they cant controll it, the point is that they provide everyone the same possibilities to buy stuff by getting paid the same but someone might spend everything on drugs or in personal stuff or other may keep it and spend it later, so this way everyone has the same opportunities to buy stuff.

better now?

[AC-Socialist]

Originally posted by [email protected] 7 2004, 04:37 AM
bascially in a communist goverment all of the houses are preperty of the goverment, once you die your house is for someone else, stuff like the house is goverments property.
the thing is that people has a wrong idea about communism, everyone doesent have the same exactly, let me explain:

the goverment provides equal housing for everyone, at the same time hospitals and education is free and goverment controlled, everyone has a job and gets paid exactly the same, so if the goverment provides all your basic need what you do with your money is your business and they cant controll it, the point is that they provide everyone the same possibilities to buy stuff by getting paid the same but someone might spend everything on drugs or in personal stuff or other may keep it and spend it later, so this way everyone has the same opportunities to buy stuff.

better now?
PLEASE read more

[Mike Fakelastname]

Originally posted by AC-Socialist+Jun 7 2004, 08:35 AM--> (AC-Socialist @ Jun 7 2004, 08:35 AM)
[email protected] 7 2004, 04:37 AM
bascially in a communist goverment all of the houses are preperty of the goverment, once you die your house is for someone else, stuff like the house is goverments property.
the thing is that people has a wrong idea about communism, everyone doesent have the same exactly, let me explain:

the goverment provides equal housing for everyone, at the same time hospitals and education is free and goverment controlled, everyone has a job and gets paid exactly the same, so if the goverment provides all your basic need what you do with your money is your business and they cant controll it, the point is that they provide everyone the same possibilities to buy stuff by getting paid the same but someone might spend everything on drugs or in personal stuff or other may keep it and spend it later, so this way everyone has the same opportunities to buy stuff.

better now?
PLEASE read more [/b]
Amen. I hate when uneducated people try to educate even less educated people. Don't post answers in this forum anymore renwan, you should be the one asking the questions.

But anyway, in response to the innitial question:

In a truly communist society, there simply would be no personal property. Everything that you had would be the property of the people. Private property is a bourgeois institution. It's kinda a hard concept to grasp. Marx explains this, and other beginner communist theories in the Communist Manifesto, read it sometime.

[DaCuBaN]

Once you've read the manifesto, try doing some research on the gift economy

Many people say that this is the basis of how things would work in a communist world, given that money is intended to be abolished under Marxist ideals.


the goverment provides equal housing for everyone, at the same time hospitals and education is free and goverment controlled, everyone has a job and gets paid exactly the same, so if the goverment provides all your basic need what you do with your money is your business and they cant controll it, the point is that they provide everyone the same possibilities to buy stuff by getting paid the same but someone might spend everything on drugs or in personal stuff or other may keep it and spend it later, so this way everyone has the same opportunities to buy stuff.


This is a pretty accurate definition of socialism. Marx presented that the state should be abolished, and replaced with 'workers councils'. In other words those skilled at metal work would use a direct form of democracy to run their factory, and so on.

At least this was my interpretation of it.

[Hate Is Art]

RS2000 came up with something I remember reading Called "demarchy" sounded pretty, ask him about it

[The Worm is God]

i have a question. Who was the actual man Zapata? i know his legend spurred the Zapatista revolution, which leads me to beleive he fought for indigenous workers in some way, but i have always been cloudy on what the man actually did.

[VincentValentine]

In a truly communist society, money wouldnt exist.

All should read the communist manifesto by Marx & Engels

[The Worm is God]

never heard of it.

[Purple]

Originally posted by The Worm is [email protected] 9 2004, 01:19 AM
i have a question. Who was the actual man Zapata? i know his legend spurred the Zapatista revolution, which leads me to beleive he fought for indigenous workers in some way, but i have always been cloudy on what the man actually did.
emilio zapata was the leader of the zapatista guerilla movement, fighting for the cause of his people, which was discriminated by the mexican goverment that persisted of spanish newfounders, etc. he was ambushed on the way to the mexican president to discuss matters, and murdered...

the mexicans used the zapatistas as cheap labour, and they were supressed their human rights...






i think....

[h&s]

You should read the communist manifesto

never heard of it.
What!?!?

[The Worm is God]

sarcasm. thanks for the info on zapata.