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Dr.No
5th June 2004, 22:38
Please post your political standpoints that would get you in trouble if you mentioned it in public. PROTIP: Comparing Bush to Hitler or whining about how capitalism is evil is hardly controversial, so please refrain from doing that.

I'll start: There should be strict laws on reproduction, and abortions should be easier to get, so that the fetus can be removed at a less developed stage.

Inegalitarian Communism will work; full egalitarianism would be unfair.

It is quite possible for people to have too much freedom.

National flags should only be used during special occations and holidays, not on every god damn high colesterol or sweatshop-made product.

Fidel Castro is not evil, he's just a little uncomfortable with the idea of democracy at the moment. If people could just believe in him, he could create a utopia.

Immigrants are not ruining our society, conservatives who refuse to adapt are.

Saddam Hussein was a very handsome, intelligent and charismatic intellectual, and I am sure hanging out with him would be lots of fun.

Many US soldiers are not mentally capable of warfare, especially ground combat.

Homosexuality is more morally and ethically correct than heterosexuality, because gay sex doesn't lead to overpopulation.

Britney Spears ain't all that.

Now it's your turn; post your unpopular political opinions. And please, this thread is not meant for political discussion, so if you disagree with a statement that is posted, just shut up and post your own list instead.

Victor-Meunier
6th June 2004, 09:47
I'm wondering something...where to you live to fear some reaction on what you said uppon ?!! Here I would say it loudspeaking in the streets no one would bat an eyelid, and many people think the same of you (including I).

Anyway I've got my ideas to post lol : National flags are in some way really cute to look at but are very dangerous to humanity.

There will always be wars, it's in the human's nature to find some stupid thing to start a conflict. The only thing we can do is to limit the more we can do those conflicts, using diplomacy and our brains.

Charismatic figures like the picture of the Che ARE a good way to vehiculate ideas, to attract the "potential comrade" BUT shouldn't be the last meaning. Texts and ideas can really do more than pictures.

Stop accusating the whole people of America to be responsible of what is attribuated to the USA : a large part of the population of the US do really believe in peace, love, equality, and there are many comrades out there. <_<

Monotheistic religions are a harm to peace in the world.

The esperanto is a very easy to learn language, but it&#39;s not a reason to make it be the earthly langugage by excellence.

(I haven&#39;t got more for the moment).



(Comrade ?) Victor.

Chad King
6th June 2004, 09:51
Saddam Hussein should be placed back in power in Iraq. That place will only further become a warzone once the US finally pulls out, Saddam was a man of power and thats exactly what that area needs, a person of strength to keep everything in some form of order.

Hate Is Art
6th June 2004, 13:40
I Like France and French Culture.
I also like French Music and the French Language.
I find Alan Rickmans voice strangely sexual.

Victor-Meunier
6th June 2004, 14:52
Originally posted by Digital [email protected] 6 2004, 01:40 PM
I Like France and French Culture.
I also like French Music and the French Language.
I find Alan Rickmans voice strangely sexual.
Amen &#33; :)

kroony
6th June 2004, 15:18
Introduce a citizenship test for immigrants... AND for natives&#33;

If they don&#39;t pass it, kick the fuckers out, whether they&#39;re born here or not.

Invader Zim
6th June 2004, 15:45
The destruction of borders and the abolition of currancy.

synthesis
6th June 2004, 15:49
The occupation of Tibet was justified and relatively humanitarian.

Hate Is Art
6th June 2004, 16:30
Stalin wasn&#39;t all that bad&#33;

Victor-Meunier
6th June 2004, 16:57
Not anybody deserves unemployment benefit. <_< ( one thaught to those bas***** who work one month, then stop to get their unemployment benefit for the rest of the year, then start again etc...)

Ortega
6th June 2004, 17:31
The invasion of Tibet was not justified, whether or not it was humanitarian.

Pete
6th June 2004, 18:31
- atleast another 10 cents gas tax (im from canada)
- higher in cities where people can use busses or light rail
- get the fuck out of nafta
- use more natural resources from canada in canada
- stop throwing money at healthcare and other things, but reform them from the inside if you care to make them better
- legalize marijuana, we smoke it on parliment hill anyways
- acknwoledge (i can&#39;t spell at the moment) the peak oil theory and start doing things to counter act it
- a complete ban on GE foods
- a complete ban on clear cutting
- new tax brackets, the top on is 150 000 or 100 000 or something like that
- pie paul martin
- declare jack layton a political oil slick

and other such things

Professor Moneybags
6th June 2004, 19:53
Originally posted by [email protected] 6 2004, 03:18 PM
Introduce a citizenship test for immigrants... AND for natives&#33;

If they don&#39;t pass it, kick the fuckers out, whether they&#39;re born here or not.
That&#39;s actually a good idea.

Professor Moneybags
6th June 2004, 19:54
Capitalism is about to collapse.

synthesis
6th June 2004, 19:55
Originally posted by Jacobo [email protected] 6 2004, 10:31 AM
The invasion of Tibet was not justified, whether or not it was humanitarian.
Fair enough, though I wouldn&#39;t exactly call that an unpopular opinion.

elijahcraig
7th June 2004, 00:34
Voting should not be a right, but something only those who aren&#39;t morons could do---in fact, you should have to be very smart.

I hate french culture for different reasons than their stand on the war in Iraq.

The state will never dissolve completely.

Patriarchy isn&#39;t always a bad thing.

Matriarchy isn&#39;t always a bad thing.

Art should be the official religion of the state, the ideal state--in all other systems the state is the opposition of art.

Ignorance should be a crime, and I should get to decide what is ignorant and what is not.

I don&#39;t oppose polygamy.

Redstar should be banned and beaten by large strong men in back allies of new york. (don&#39;t know if that&#39;s really an unpopular view...)

The Anarchist Tension should be given the same treatment.

I wouldn&#39;t mind if a large battle was held between the fundamentalists on the christian side vs the muslim side---in an arena with only knives as weapons...whoever wins will then be sealed in a hole in the ground forever...

BOZG
7th June 2004, 00:46
I like EC&#39;s ideas. =D

Mass execution of Nazis
Mass execution of Liberals
Mass execution of whoever I fucking like

Pedro Alonso Lopez
7th June 2004, 00:49
Art should be the official religion of the state, the ideal state--in all other systems the state is the opposition of art.


Now thats good.

robob8706
7th June 2004, 00:59
*Couples should be sterilized after their second child so as to control over population.
*Genetic Engineering should be researched so as to better improve our genial constructs and eradicate genetic diseases and the like. This of course would decrease the number of deaths in the world, thus adding to the overpopulation problem. For this see my first argument.
*Worldwide communism is the way to go, national communism limits the resources and makes it very hard for one nation to rise up to become a super power. With a communistic world we would have full access to every available resource thus sustaining the chance to fully excercise humanities ability to prosper.
*That&#39;s all I have for now.

redstar2000
7th June 2004, 02:45
Redstar should be banned and beaten by large strong men in back allies of new york.

Take a number&#33; :lol:

:redstar2000:

The Redstar2000 Papers (http://www.redstar2000papers.fightcapitalism.net)
A site about communist ideas

ÑóẊîöʼn
7th June 2004, 08:35
Prison is not an effective treatment for criminals

Execution prevents re-offending.

Authority is only legitimate if you submit to it willingly.

Authority can be illegitimate for other reasons.

You have a moral obligation to disobey your superiors if told to do something you think is illegal, immoral etc.

Money is unnecessary.

The state is an inherently corrupt system.

Taxes are a sophisticated way of demanding money with menaces.

Advertisements are a form of coercion.

Science is superior to religion, philosophy and &#39;magic&#39; combined.

The only morals are those decided by a society.

Policemen break their promise to protect the public daily.

Corporations are despotic.

Anarchy good, chaos bad.

Christianity is the curse of the world.

While individuals die, the group endures.

Clones should be produced for manual labour purposes, giving the true humans time to do the interesting jobs.

Sentient AI should be treated as equals.

Diplomatic relations between humans and any aliens will most likely be everlasting alliance or permanent inter-species vendetta.

Mankind should continue it&#39;s expansion into the universe.

Global warming will not be as devastating as some make out.

Alternatives to oil can and will be found.

Nyder
7th June 2004, 08:42
I just want the Government to leave me alone.

Victor-Meunier
7th June 2004, 10:41
_Death penality is not a painful enought treatment for murderers, it&#39;s just an easy exit for them.

_To enjail criminals is to grant them a bed, food, water, cloth and rest sometimes till the end of their life, and guess who pays for those bastards ?... <_< .

_Big corporation leaders should be under the same laws than classic citizens (untill they cease to exist due to the worldwide communist revolution :P )

_The country should be leaden by two presidents better than one.

_France is a nice place to live and some french people are very nice but this country is definitly NOT a democratic and social place.

_Very little separatist regions should be granted independance, just long enought for them to suffer the weight of this choice, and them we would take them back while they are screaming like babies. That way they would shut up once and for all :redstar2000:

_Bush is an idiot, but he is not the only one, frenchies are judging others but should watch their back before going one others&#39;

_Spanish IS unseful and simple to learn

_Communism can work, really, but not in a restricted context : It needs ALL countries to work under its principles :hammer:

_Québec should be independant of Canada, as they want it.

Hiero
7th June 2004, 12:24
-I will most likely laugh my self into a fit if G.W.bush jnr is assisanited in this year.

gaf
7th June 2004, 12:33
Humaaaaaaaans are primitives beeings,learning to act civilized,monney is as powerfull as a sword,and war is a way to stop conversation(in an apes like way)......and religion is a way to give an awnser to what you&#39;ll never know(in this primitive state)
flag is the color of a tribe,languages must be bannished (to avoid misunderstandings)
we have to begin from scratch.

The idealist
7th June 2004, 12:39
Execution prevents re-offending.

:lol:
Lol, think that one up yourself did you? (No insult intended) I repeat: lol

Pedro Alonso Lopez
7th June 2004, 13:48
1 - Communism as Marx set it out will never occur as such, socialism is possible but whether we can reach a state of communism or anarchism in my eyes is highly doubtful.

2 - Nationalism is justified in a cultural sense but of course not in a jongoistic lets go to war way, ebing proud of your country however is not wrong but is easily manipulated by the state.

3 - The Soviet Union was not so bad, the gains of the workers and the power of communism to take a country like Russia to where it was to where Stalin got it is a true testament to the power of the workers albeit at a huge cost.

4 - I am anti-American and I mean I hate American culture, all it stands for.

redstarshining
7th June 2004, 15:04
hmm... let&#39;s see


Politics:


- The working class can not emancipate itself ( if it ever will be able to do so ) as long as the right to spread information in which ever form remains a commodity which can be bought and sold. The role of the media and its influence on the working class is often underestimated. The capitalist mode of production will not grant enough time and intellectual space to the average worker to educate him/herself. What this means is that WE have to take action, no matter if we constitute the majority or not. We may need popular support to organize an armed revolt, that does NOT mean that we need popular support to undermine the state, its propaganda network and its various organs. When the state invents politics we have to make politics.

- Representative democracy will ALWAYS turn into a corrupt plutocracy sooner or later. There is absolutely no reason why we would need anyone representing us.

- The state is holding a monopoly of power, and therefore constantly keeping a weapon pointed at your head. You have the right to defend yourself. You never signed a contract giving all your power to the state, you never asked ANYONE to represent you, therefore you have no obligation towards the state and neither to your country of birth.

- If you&#39;re going to vote, then don&#39;t vote for the lesser of two evils, vote for someone whose politics you believe in or don&#39;t vote at all.

- If you are going to engage in bourgeois politics to change the system from within, feel free to do so. Some people occasionaly manage to change the system from within, to a very small degree, mostly on a communal level, however be aware that it&#39;s extremely unlikely that you will be among them. Don&#39;t compromise too much and prepare for a lot of big disappointments. There are other ways to change things&#33;

- Council communism is the only thing that comes close to the &#39;rule of the people&#39;

- There is no such thing as &#39;absolute freedom&#39;

- Nothing should be holy, that goes especially for national flags and political
symbols.

- Human suffering is universal and objectifiable. So is the wish to end human suffering. There is no such thing as "western values".

- Birthcontrol is a necessity. We should be aware of the fact that the capitalist state is always interested in increasing the population density in order to increase overproduction. Reproduction must be controlled.

- I believe a transitional period IS needed.

DaCuBaN
7th June 2004, 21:36
Prison is not an effective treatment for criminals

Execution prevents re-offending.

Authority is only legitimate if you submit to it willingly.

Authority can be illegitimate for other reasons.

You have a moral obligation to disobey your superiors if told to do something you think is illegal, immoral etc.

Money is unnecessary.

The state is an inherently corrupt system.

Taxes are a sophisticated way of demanding money with menaces.

Advertisements are a form of coercion.

Science is superior to religion, philosophy and &#39;magic&#39; combined.

The only morals are those decided by a society.

Policemen break their promise to protect the public daily.

Corporations are despotic.

Anarchy good, chaos bad.

Christianity is the curse of the world.

While individuals die, the group endures.

Clones should be produced for manual labour purposes, giving the true humans time to do the interesting jobs.

Sentient AI should be treated as equals.

Diplomatic relations between humans and any aliens will most likely be everlasting alliance or permanent inter-species vendetta.

Mankind should continue it&#39;s expansion into the universe.

Global warming will not be as devastating as some make out.

Alternatives to oil can and will be found.


Nothing to add, I&#39;ll second that :D
I&#39;d change christianity simply to read religion, and I&#39;d rather prefer Brave New World style cloning - fit for purpose, if you know what I mean.

BOZG
7th June 2004, 21:53
Killing the majority of Che-Lives members. That&#39;s a whole load of liberals out of the way.

DaCuBaN
7th June 2004, 21:59
Killing the majority of Che-Lives members. That&#39;s a whole load of liberals out of the way

But then you may isolate some of your comrades who do agree with you, and in fact turn them into the liberals that you hate as they believed your actions to be &#39;unfair&#39; or something

I&#39;ve a better idea: Total Annihilation ;)

BOZG
7th June 2004, 22:04
I think I&#39;ve isolated enough people already, why should I have any problems getting rid of the rest of them. =D Someone will probably complain about this now. Maybe I should apologise and offer someone a handjob, a lot of people seem to like that.

DaCuBaN
7th June 2004, 22:31
So you don&#39;t fancy the idea of total annihilation then?

Don&#39;t let me ever get into a position where my hands hovering over the big red button. I promise you, I will press it.


Someone will probably complain about this now

Yes, far too many people are not able to discern between personal and politics.


Maybe I should apologise and offer someone a handjob

No complaints here ;) :lol:

Raisa
8th June 2004, 04:01
I still havent evaluated which of all my views are popular and which are not....

- I think its stupid to claim a sexuality.

- I like clowns

-The olson twins are not hot

- Being proud of what you are over what other people are is stupid cause you didnt choose it any way



Thats all I can think of for now.

scrap metal
8th June 2004, 05:32
-taking pride in anothers work is wrong

-viewing america as a historical nation and causing our citizens to suffer for deeds done by men (no longer in power) who the majority didn&#39;t elect is wrong

-rap sucks, and so does anything even loosely tied to it (strait-billed hats, wearing pants at half mast like a rapper died, the dumbing-down of america&#39;s and the world&#39;s youth....)

-canadian bacon is really ham

-i agree that the state will never fully desolve

-it&#39;s a sad state that corperations have convince people to PAY FOR WATER (I believe it comprises roughly 70% of the world....yet we pay for it)

-poverty breeds violence

-some people aren&#39;t worth rehabilitating

DaCuBaN
8th June 2004, 05:55
-it&#39;s a sad state that corperations have convince people to PAY FOR WATER (I believe it comprises roughly 70% of the world....yet we pay for it)


Not here :lol: :P


-viewing america as a historical nation and causing our citizens to suffer for deeds done by men (no longer in power) who the majority didn&#39;t elect is wrong

only the US? I agree in principal, but not when applied to a single country...

All or nothing please ;)

Hiero
8th June 2004, 06:02
Fuck sake dacuban stop responded your Ruining the thread.

Guerilla22
8th June 2004, 08:18
The US should lift all sanctions against Cuba, Iran and the DPRK. Massive amounts of financial aid should be given to these countries. The US should give the Palestinians a bunch of M-16s, F-16s, tanks and Apache helicopters just to even up things. The US should give Texas back to Mexico.

kroony
8th June 2004, 12:22
Man is not born free.

The State will always be necessary, in order to combat those things which prevent us from being free.

Nationality is responsible for more death than religion and communism put together

The Christian God is objectively non-existent

History is not made by socioeconomic forces, or by great leaders, but by the decisions of individual laymen at crucial moments

A large proportion of communists are a waste of space

The far left is poison to any mass movement

Philosophy must be subservient to science

Corporations are by nature corrupt

Pedro Alonso Lopez
8th June 2004, 13:02
Philosophy must be subservient to science

Well hello Mr. Locke.

Deathb4Dishonor
8th June 2004, 14:13
- Voting should be limited to the people who have served the goverment in some way (this applys to even the guy who gives you your change back at the toll both) all goverment employes should have to pass a sort of training similur to millitary boot camp (older people will just attend the classes)
- People bellow the average income should not be allowed to have more then 2 kids if they disobay this law there other kid will be confinscated and raised as a child for the states use.
- Shoplifters should be branded with a big S on there right and left hands
- No soldier should ever surrender. if put it such an position they must take there own lives.
- Swearing should be legalized in all areas Tv, Radio and any thing i missed. Children should be not be tolled to swear but they should not be encouraged ether.
- Montheistic religions are EVIL
- All current mentaly disabled people should be allowed to live. any ones born at birth should be killed.
- Prisons must focuse more on rehablitating criminals rather then detering them.
- Any prisoner on death row should be given the option to serve in a branch of the millitary made solely of prisoners who in the event of a war would be let loose amongst the population
- Murder,Rape, Child Molestation and armed robery should carry the penalty of death all other crimes will have the convicted sentanced to be rehablitated
- Protesting in the capital city should be outlawed (possiblty of them geting violent and harming goverment officals) and the capital city should repersent the beauty of the country
- Soldiers should be paided more
- All forms of abortion should be legail
- corperations wil not be allowed to donate towards political partys.
- NASA should recieve HUGE increases in there spending and i mean HUGE as well as physicas and any other field of science that can help expand man kinds knowledge (thats every field :D)
- ALL drugs are to be legalized


Theres some of them

EDIT: i very much enjoyed reading all your political views and i guess were not so diffrent

EDIT: sorry to have to double edit just had to add that

Professor Moneybags
8th June 2004, 16:45
Some good ideas there, but the rest sounds like starship troopers.

Comrade Raz
8th June 2004, 18:11
Contary to popular belief, I neither love or hate Marmite.

Deathb4Dishonor
9th June 2004, 03:39
Starship tropers? isnt that the book/movie with the bugs? sorry i dont get it

Y2A
9th June 2004, 03:42
"Post your unpopular political views&#33;"

I should be world dictator.

Mike Fakelastname
9th June 2004, 05:46
In some ways I can be violently anti-humanist. Like, I&#39;m totally for abortion, genetic purification (I swear, I&#39;m not racist, by this I&#39;m summing up what other people have said about it), cloning humans for spare parts or for manual labor (We could genetically alter the laboring clones to not have consciousness somehow, they would functionally be robots).
I believe that every person should have every right to fully arm them selves with any projectile firearm.
After we do away with the racist and obsolete justice system, prisoners should be used for manual labor, or executed, depending on the nature of their crime.
Local news stations are absolutely pointless.
Nationalism is not inherently bad.
In fact, no economic system/cultural philosophy is inherently bad, not even capitalism.
I&#39;m a pretty unorthodox Marxist, except when it comes to Dialectic Materialism. There is absolutely nothing I disagree with in that philosophy.
Worker&#39;s unions are our only hope for the future, whether or not the revolution ever comes.
I can form a loop with a headphone cord, stick it in my nose and reach to the back of my throat and pull it out my mouth.
People who need to be assassinated preferably pretty quickly include Bush, Sharon, Blair, Cheney, Rumsfeld, and anyone who has any connection to the CIA.
I disagree with Marx over religion. Personally, I&#39;m an atheist, but some people simply need a structured belief system.
I hate Zionists. I don&#39;t support suicide bombings, but man, Israel deserves it, the Jews don&#39;t though.
I hate the state of Israel, if I was elected the president, I would bomb the shit out of them.
Killing innocent people is not justifiable, even if it&#39;s civilian casualties in a war.
Black people need to start forming organizations like the Black Panthers again, and in fact, every oppressed minority group needs to form their own nationalist gang.
Social Darwinism is stupid and wrong.
Protest suicides are pretty effective.
And so are hunger strikes.
If you don&#39;t like something, bombing "something&#39;s" headquarters, or assassinating "something&#39;s" leader(s) is much more effective than protest marches.
In fact, violence in most cases is more effective than nonviolence. If you don&#39;t like something, resist it by fighting or killing. Plus, it makes you feel better in the end, eheh.
America&#39;s polarization problem(s) are a good thing, but extreme factionism is bad.
Movements should do every possible thing to avoid factionism, even if the movement itself is polarized.
There&#39;s a fucking moth on my "&#092;" key, ahh, got it...
Life is not as valuable as people think, it&#39;s only extremely valuable to the person living it.
I think I might hate Kerry even more than I hate Bush, they both deserve some stuff I can&#39;t mention on the internet because the FBI might be tracking me.

Hiero
9th June 2004, 11:59
[/QUOTE]I can form a loop with a headphone cord, stick it in my nose and reach to the back of my throat and pull it out my mouth.[QUOTE]
Seriously?

Nyder
9th June 2004, 12:41
You guys are fucking nuts&#33;

Red Guard
9th June 2004, 13:29
........

kroony
9th June 2004, 13:34
Good heavens. I thought I was controversial&#33;

praxis1966
9th June 2004, 14:16
Mankind should continue it&#39;s expansion into the universe.

Oh yes. I&#39;m quite certain that any forms of life that we&#39;re likely to encounter will be highly impressed with our lemon-flavored dental floss, shoes with lights in the heels, animatronic fish that sing "Take Me to the River" when you pass by, and all of the other wonderful things we&#39;ve accomplished down here.


The US should give Texas back to Mexico.

--Agreed, and Mexico should give Chiapas back to Guatemala.

--I don&#39;t care what anybody says. 26 + 6 = 1. In other words, Northern Ireland should be given over to the Republic of Ireland immediately. Anyone who thinks otherwise deserves a bullet in the head.

--Frederik Nietzsche was a jackass.

--Seagulls, pigeons, and squirrels should be irradicated immediately.

--Brad Pitt is a fuckwit and a horrible actor.

--Saying things like "same difference," "reverse racism," and other meaningless phrases should be illegal and punishable by being beaten about the head and neck with a fungo bat.

--Everyone deserves a good throttling now and again.

--Speed limits are for sissies.

ÑóẊîöʼn
9th June 2004, 14:53
Oh yes. I&#39;m quite certain that any forms of life that we&#39;re likely to encounter will be highly impressed with our lemon-flavored dental floss, shoes with lights in the heels, animatronic fish that sing "Take Me to the River" when you pass by, and all of the other wonderful things we&#39;ve accomplished down here.


There you go again <_< I&#39;ll say this again: we can give our great inventions of communism, anarchism, and human culture

Mike Fakelastname
9th June 2004, 15:16
Originally posted by comrade [email protected] 9 2004, 06:59 AM
I can form a loop with a headphone cord, stick it in my nose and reach to the back of my throat and pull it out my mouth.

Seriously?
Seriously. I&#39;m pretty sure everyone could do it if they tried, it&#39;s just the back of your nasal passage.

DaCuBaN
9th June 2004, 18:38
Northern Ireland should be given over to the Republic of Ireland immediately. Anyone who thinks otherwise deserves a bullet in the head

Then shoot me :P

-Republic of Ireland should be reinstated into the United Kingdom, and the entire system overthrown together to form the worlds first pre-industrialised socialist state.

-The US should be broken up into the component states and started again from scratch

-Esperanto should be the international language

-The US and UK should be expelled form the Leage of Nations (UN)



Oh yes. I&#39;m quite certain that any forms of life that we&#39;re likely to encounter will be highly impressed with our lemon-flavored dental floss, shoes with lights in the heels, animatronic fish that sing "Take Me to the River" when you pass by, and all of the other wonderful things we&#39;ve accomplished down here.

And even finding them wouldn&#39;t be impressive enough? ;)

I&#39;m sure some of those views are unpopular. But hey.

Reuben
9th June 2004, 18:42
northern england should be abolished

Pedro Alonso Lopez
9th June 2004, 19:32
--I don&#39;t care what anybody says. 26 + 6 = 1. In other words, Northern Ireland should be given over to the Republic of Ireland immediately. Anyone who thinks otherwise deserves a bullet in the head.


Agreed, a thirty two county socialist republic.


Frederik Nietzsche was a jackass.

Maybe, Friedrich Nietzsche was a genius though and if you say otherwise I most likely will never take anything you say ever again seriously...:)

gaf
9th June 2004, 21:07
Originally posted by [email protected] 9 2004, 02:16 PM


--I don&#39;t care what anybody says. 26 + 6 = 1.


GEORGE ORWEL





1984/2004

Eastside Revolt
10th June 2004, 02:12
both nationalism and multiculturalism are racist.

Urban Rubble
10th June 2004, 03:08
Stalin was nowhere near as bad as they say he was.

North Korea is nowhere near as bad as they say it is.

Fidel Castro is one of the smartest and greatest men to ever live.

Mao Tse-Tung is one of the smartest and greatest men to ever live.

Ho Chi Minh is one of the smartest and greatest men to ever live.

Cuba should arrest more counter-revolutionaries.

Tibet and Taiwan are part of China.

Most counter-revolutionaries cannot be rehabilitated and should be executed.

Religion (especially Christianity) should be stamped out.

The Cultural Revolution was a great thing.

Social Democracy is nothing more than Capitalism with a fancy name.

The State of Israel should not exist.

North Korea should continue it&#39;s Nuclear Weapons Programs and not give in to the US.

I praise Nepals Maoists and hope they overthrow the Monarchy.

The EU is a piece of shit.

The UN is a fucking joke.

Human Rights groups are trash.

Heh, another run of the mill "Stalin kiddie". You&#39;re so cliche.

I think you&#39;d fit in a bit better at Ernesto Guevara.com (http://www.Ernesto-Guevara.com).

praxis1966
10th June 2004, 04:00
Originally posted by [email protected] 9 2004, 01:32 PM

--I don&#39;t care what anybody says. 26 + 6 = 1. In other words, Northern Ireland should be given over to the Republic of Ireland immediately. Anyone who thinks otherwise deserves a bullet in the head.


Agreed, a thirty two county socialist republic.


Frederik Nietzsche was a jackass.

Maybe, Friedrich Nietzsche was a genius though and if you say otherwise I most likely will never take anything you say ever again seriously...:)
I suppose he was a genius, but there&#39;s something to be said for the fact that he spent a rather large portion of his life living in an insane asylum.

Oh, and by the way Noxion, that was an attempt at being facetious.

elijahcraig
10th June 2004, 07:04
He spent only 10 yrs or so in an asylum.

I&#39;ve never heard anyone say being crazy for 10 yrs means you&#39;re a jackass though.

Pedro Alonso Lopez
10th June 2004, 10:23
Originally posted by [email protected] 10 2004, 04:00 AM

I suppose he was a genius, but there&#39;s something to be said for the fact that he spent a rather large portion of his life living in an insane asylum.



If by large portion you mean last ten years of your life.

He may have went insane but that does not take away his genius of influence.

RevolucioN NoW
10th June 2004, 10:34
- Children are annoying and should be kept in cages until the age of 10
- It should be legal to use cattle prods on children
- Monkeys deserve more political power, as they are much more inteligent than the average Australian
- Execution is more humane than imprisonment, either execution or let them go with a warning (a free court should decide this of course, but NO children on the Jury <_< )

Might add more later, but meh.

elijahcraig
10th June 2004, 13:17
Not much for the children, eh?

According to the thread in the philosophy section, you are driven most by what you hate, or you are secretly what you hate…if this is true, RAF might want to watch out…we have one wild pedophile on our hands.

Akasha
10th June 2004, 16:38
- The gov&#39;t should put birth control in the water system and ppl should have to pass a test to have children. You can&#39;t drive without a license but you can have as many children as you can abuse and generally fuck up in your lifetime. (I still haven&#39;t gotten all of the right wing ideas out of my head&#33;&#33;)
- Castro is right. And history will absolve him.
- Bush is a fucking ****. It amazes me how in the western world money can get you not only a degree from an ivy league school but a presidency. And this is first world????
- (For Canadians) Jack Layton is damn sexy and should be our next prime minister. (Or Bono...he seems to like us...why doesn&#39;t he stay and lead us?)

Frederick_Engles
10th June 2004, 18:40
Give Ireland back to the Irish
no death penalty

Dr. Rosenpenis
11th June 2004, 00:58
Raeaeageaean&#39;s (however the fuck you spell his name) death made me quite a bit jolly.

It&#39;s acceptable for black people, or any generally oppressed group to generaly insult the white race or any group of oppressors, but not vise versa. The oppressors are white, and while it&#39;s certainly an exagerated generalization, it&#39;s also very understandable and is not the kind of prejudice which perpetuates oppression.

Reactionaries who actively dispute socialism should be killed or otherwise dealt with promtly, such as ex-president Ragean, not that I had anything at all to do with his death... I swear&#33; :P

Urban Rubble
11th June 2004, 01:00
It&#39;s acceptable for black people to generaly insult the white race, but not vise versa. The oppressors are white, and while it&#39;s certainly an exagerated generalization, it&#39;s also very understandable and is not the kind of prejudice which perpetuates oppression.

God. You&#39;re hilarious. That is such a bunch of shite that I can smell it through my screen.

Dr. Rosenpenis
11th June 2004, 01:08
This thread isn&#39;t inteded for discussion, but I knew that my comment would incite lots of dissagreement. I had no idea that you&#39;d find it in a mere few seconds, though. Amazing.

Think about it, Urban, for an oppressed group to apply stereotypes, or generalizations to the race, nationality, etc, which oppresses it is completely harmless, isn&#39;t it? After all, their race as a whole is suffering from oppression, so it&#39;s understandable for them to assume that it is another race as a whole which is doing the oppression.

And unlike hatred and stereotypes of oppressed races and groups used by oppressors to justify the superstations, the opposite does not perpetuate oppression. I consider it simply an understandable, yet often misdirected, venting of frustration. It&#39;s harmless.

elijahcraig
11th June 2004, 01:10
It&#39;s "understandable" but not logical. Like lots of dumb things.

Y2A
11th June 2004, 01:53
Originally posted by Urban [email protected] 11 2004, 01:00 AM

It&#39;s acceptable for black people to generaly insult the white race, but not vise versa. The oppressors are white, and while it&#39;s certainly an exagerated generalization, it&#39;s also very understandable and is not the kind of prejudice which perpetuates oppression.

God. You&#39;re hilarious. That is such a bunch of shite that I can smell it through my screen.
What do you expect man, he&#39;s a pussy. And I don&#39;t care if I get a ban for saying so. What&#39;s really funny is that what he is saying is indeed condecending and thus racist. Translation:&#39;The blacks are inferior and thus can attack whites"End of Translation. How can you live with yourself you racist bastard?

Urban Rubble
11th June 2004, 05:36
Well, I don&#39;t think he&#39;s saying they&#39;re inferior, but I totally agree that the way Victor thinks is incredibly racist, though it&#39;s not as blatant as most. I&#39;ve told him that before. That kind of bullshit only perpetuates the thought that blacks and whites are different people with different rights.

gaf
11th June 2004, 06:59
no black no white no yellow no red etc etc......only grey and fuckin misty where men can not see further than his own nose.mama mia poor world&#33;

elijahcraig
11th June 2004, 07:02
(Homer Simpson voice) What in the hell are you talking about???

^^^

Hiero
11th June 2004, 08:15
Originally posted by [email protected] 11 2004, 07:02 AM
(Homer Simpson voice) What in the hell are you talking about???

^^^
Anybody who replies to that comment with a answer must do it in lisa&#39;s voice.

Dr. Rosenpenis
11th June 2004, 13:56
Racism is oppression based on race.
For an oppressed race to "put down" the race of its oppressors or degrade it with stereotypes is not oppression, it&#39;s retaliation for oppression and does not constitute as oppression itself.

I obviously don&#39;t actually condone this, but find it completely harmless and do not condemn it as "reverse racism".

Postteen
11th June 2004, 14:00
Originally posted by Professor [email protected] 6 2004, 09:54 PM
Capitalism is about to collapse.
is it? :(

Urban Rubble
11th June 2004, 15:03
For an oppressed race to "put down" the race of its oppressors or degrade it with stereotypes is not oppression, it&#39;s retaliation for oppression and does not constitute as oppression itself.

Again, what you&#39;re saying is incredibly racist, and quite disgusting. Generalizing by saying that all black people are oppressed by all white people and that all black people are allowed to attack all white people because some white people have oppressed them is complete and utter bullshit. I&#39;m white, but I have no power, I don&#39;t oppress anyone, I don&#39;t own the means of production, I am in no better position that any black man, yet you have no problem with that man hating me because of the color of my skin ? You&#39;re fucking ridiculous Victor. I cannot wait until you step outside and experience the real world one day. Do you even know any black people ?



I obviously don&#39;t actually condone this, but find it completely harmless and do not condemn it as "reverse racism".

It&#39;s not "reverse" racism, it&#39;s plain old RACISM.

And how is perpetuating hate ot harmless. You think it&#39;s O.K for the entire black population to hate all white people and you don&#39;t think that is dangerous ? Are you really that fucking stupid ?

Nas
11th June 2004, 16:16
-Latin America is a bunch of American Colonies

-no hispanic really likes to be called "Latino"

-We are not ready to see a Communist Country

-USA is not ready to see a black president

-We will be ready to see a Socialits Country

-Even though many people blame Bush, i believe he is only taking orders , more like peer pressure.

-i dont think it makes a big difference if you are a Marxist and wear Nike shoes.

-Spyware makes it easy for the government to check up on people like us :o

-IF the people, in general, was more educated we would&#39;ve achieve Socialism by now&#33;

Thud
14th June 2004, 16:01
- Ban religion.
- Capital punishment only on one crime: Stupidity.
- People shouldn&#39;t vote for Kerry just to get Monkeyarse out of the White House, it doesn&#39;t matter. Vote Greens, it&#39;s the only way things will change.

elijahcraig
14th June 2004, 16:06
Capital punishment only on one crime: Stupidity.

Suicidal maniac.

boško buha
14th June 2004, 17:32
working people of the world should leave their homes( and PCs), go out on the streets and start a revolution :ph34r:

Urban Rubble
15th June 2004, 01:21
working people of the world should leave their homes( and PCs), go out on the streets and start a revolution :ph34r:

And kids on the internet should step into reality and realize that in the current climate, running into the streets of America and "starting a revolution" isn&#39;t as easy as you want to believe.

Why haven&#39;t you "run out into the street and started a revolution" ? Go shoot a cop. :ph34r: :ph34r: :ph34r:

truthaddict11
15th June 2004, 01:34
- Children are annoying and should be kept in cages until the age of 10
- It should be legal to use cattle prods on children

people like you should be hanged&#33; :angry:

elijahcraig
15th June 2004, 01:37
^People like you should be shot.^

truthaddict11
15th June 2004, 01:51
real fucking mature, lets take my comment based on my personal experiance with abuse and turn it into ElijahCraig hates anarchists.

elijahcraig
15th June 2004, 01:55
Chill the fuck out, guy, it&#39;s called a joke.

elijahcraig
15th June 2004, 04:30
lets take my comment based on my personal experiance with abuse

Is "abuse" the new buzzword the anarchists on this board are using?

I&#39;d advise you to not be so sensitive, attempt to grasp the concept of sarcasm, and stop thinking I am "out to get them there hated anarchist evildoers." It gets old.

Take my warning lately from Blackberry (some of you may know him as Comrade Fuckface, depending on your location):


Implication that those of a certain ideology are victims of a disease or illness: http://www.che-lives.com/forum/index.php?showtopic=25865 "To Cure the Anarchists"

Now, if this isn’t the most pathetically comedic “warning” I’ve ever seen, which is of course not meant to be comedic or sarcastic as anarchists here seem to be unable to grasp the concept, then I’m not an asshole. And I’m a fucking asshole.

truthaddict11
16th June 2004, 02:49
Originally posted by [email protected] 14 2004, 11:30 PM

Is "abuse" the new buzzword the anarchists on this board are using?
being tied up choked neglected and beat hardly seems like a buzzword to me

elijahcraig
16th June 2004, 03:49
Are you implying we&#39;ve had some sort of sadomasochistic relationship, truthaddict?

Stapler
16th June 2004, 03:55
Originally posted by [email protected] 16 2004, 03:49 AM
Are you implying we&#39;ve had some sort of sadomasochistic relationship, truthaddict?
We could make a film...

elijahcraig
16th June 2004, 04:09
I&#39;m the dominant one, it has to be in my contract or I&#39;m out.

Rastafari
18th June 2004, 04:10
my unpopular political view?

"White people love Wayne Brady because he makes Bryant Gumbel look like Malcolm X"

I can see where you are coming from RZ (In fact, up to a few years ago, I subscribed to the same philosophy), but I have realized that it is childish to create unrealistic worldviews on the notion of "Fairness." I abandoned this idea when I first read some of Elijah Speaks and realized that the man was out of his mind with Rascism, much like somebody like David Duke, except with different reasoning for his hatred of a different race of people. I can fully understand someone&#39;s hatred of a machine state which keeps them mired in oppression and poverty, but fully hating all members of a race because a few run this mechanism is clearly insane.
The same thing happens when someone reads Gloria Steinem and then compares her to Valerie Solanas (I would have shot Andy too, though), as if the two run in the same vein.

Pawn Power
18th June 2004, 04:31
National flags should only be used during special occations and holidays, not on every god damn high colesterol or sweatshop-made product.
amen to that


Saddam Hussein was a very handsome, intelligent and charismatic intellectual, and I am sure hanging out with him would be lots of fun.
ok :blink:


Homosexuality is more morally and ethically correct than heterosexuality, because gay sex doesn&#39;t lead to overpopulation.
funny :P

CubanFox
25th June 2004, 03:57
Originally posted by [email protected] 12 2004, 02:16 AM
-IF the people, in general, was more educated we would&#39;ve achieve Socialism by now&#33;
Ah, the irony.

Sorry, NAS.

But anyway, my unpopular political views?
The little pang of joy I felt when I heard Reagan died
Fidel Castro is perfect, bit he&#39;s not Satan either
Drugs of any sort are not a good idea
The death penalty is
The Iraqi insurgency has the higher moral ground
Flags are not to be plastered all over every consumer product in the land

That list is by no means complete, I just can&#39;t think of anything else at the moment.

Postteen
26th June 2004, 19:07
not political.It&#39;s religious:

If we can&#39;t prove the non-existence of God(ganerally of something),prove me His existance&#33;

Loknar
27th June 2004, 01:52
My views:


Women are to be house keepers or dish washers in restaurants

Kids to be disciplined and well behaved (the way accomplish this is unpopular these days)

People who can, but refuse to work, even in good health, should be shot.

Strict voting requirements

NO CHILDREN until extensive testing is undergone

CubanFox
27th June 2004, 02:02
Originally posted by [email protected] 27 2004, 11:52 AM
Women are to be house keepers or dish washers in restaurants
Still living in the Stone Age, are we, Loknar?

Why exactly should women be kept in the kitchen? What makes them inferior to men?

Loknar
27th June 2004, 02:36
Originally posted by [email protected] 27 2004, 02:02 AM
Still living in the Stone Age, are we, Loknar?

Why exactly should women be kept in the kitchen? What makes them inferior to men?
ok for the record, this thread invited me to post my unpopular views.


I just want them to be occupied with something so they aren’t always complaining.


either take the equal rights and stop trying to dominate men, or go back to the kitchen.

rebelgames
27th June 2004, 06:43
-Stupid people should be put in a camp (not a concentration camp. something much more humane...but who am i to define humane) and taught about art, language, philosophy, literature, and world history. They should not be allowed to leave until they have seemingly learned something which will be proved with thorough questioning.

-the actual idea of a government is stupid. it just is i mean...come on...think about it. im not saying we could automatically switch back to no government but just think about it damnit.

-anarchy shirts should be banned

-countries should be abolished

-abortion is murder. that does not mean it is wrong. but it is murder. anything that is going to be a life is still a life.

-judaism is a religion not an ethnicity.

-fidel castro is damn sexy in a very strange way

-che guevara was probably extremely egotistical (i admire him fiercely)
-sex is overrated

-the rainbow should not be the gay pride symbol. it doesnt make any sense.

-boobs are overrated

-exercise should be manditory for all people except the crippled but maybe they could do something too

-grocery stores are unethical

-it should be illegal to assume somebody is a religion just because their parents were

-gambling is really fucking fun

i have a lot more but i might get myself too fired up and pissed off.

DaCuBaN
27th June 2004, 19:50
Boiler suits for all
Freedoms should be granted only through means testing
There&#39;s nothing wrong with the society in a Brave New World
Violent/sexual offenders should receive the &#39;Clockwork Orange&#39; treatment
Humans are not special

elijahcraig
27th June 2004, 21:10
--RAF and RS should have a death cage match, and whoever wins should be the new ruler of the world.
--I hate plastics.
--A photo should be taken of every person in a society, and if the photo comes out (yes, we&#39;ll use a good camera) with red-eye, you will be deported.
--Hippies must be clean and sober at least 3 days a week or they will be executed along with the feminists and those who like numchucks.
--Spandex will be banned.
--Weather reports should be cast only on wednesdays to save us all time.
--I like Guido&#39;s set up a lot better than the monogomous relationship.

RedAnarchist
27th June 2004, 21:30
I suppose my political views will only be unpopular with capitalists -

- Abolishment of NATO
-Abolishment of the monarchy
- Abolishment of the EU
- Abolishment of the House of Lords
- American troops out of every other country unless part of a UN peace-keeping force
- Destruction of all nukes
- Closure of all nuclear power plants
- Tear down all McDonald&#39;s and plant a garden in its place
- Legalise marijuana and cannabis both for medicinal and recreational use
- Vivisection should be illegal
- Nationalize all companies and public services
- Full and equal rights for gay/lesbian/bi/trans coupls
- All land to be fully public and owned by the people
- Abolish the death penalty in all countries which still have it
- All immigrants, asylum seekers and refugees to be welcomed and helped
- Abolishment of heriditary titles
- Full and complete seperation of church and state
- Discrimination should be punished far more severely
- A country should spend more on health, education and aid than on military spending
- Abolishment of private hospitals
- Abolishment of public and boarding schools
- Abolishment of all tuition fees
- Education should be for all, for life and free
- Paedophiles to be locked up for life without parole
- Murderers to be locked up for life without parole
- Any crime that doesnt harm others, the environment or animals shouldnt be a crime as it will only affect the person doing it

DaCuBaN
27th June 2004, 22:38
Hippies must be clean and sober at least 3 days a week

You bastard&#33; :lol:

elijahcraig
27th June 2004, 22:41
I knew you wouldn&#39;t like that one, hippie.

DaCuBaN
27th June 2004, 23:49
I just noticed another one...


Weather reports should be cast only on wednesdays to save us all time

You&#39;d put me out of a job too, would you? :lol:

Anyway.... I have to ask... what the hell have you got against numchucks? :lol:

elijahcraig
28th June 2004, 00:38
I have nothing against numchucks themselves, just those who use them.

Vinny Rafarino
28th June 2004, 02:13
--RAF and RS should have a death cage match, and whoever wins should be the new ruler of the world.



I&#39;m 26 years younger than him...I will take him out very quickly.

Of course we all know what I will do next.

I will have his body mummified and placed on display in the new world&#39;s capitol. I will then dedicate 3 nights a year to having the people march around his mausoleum singing the praises of the great revolutionary leader RS200.

It will be grand.

elijahcraig
28th June 2004, 02:18
I&#39;m 26 years younger than him...I will take him out very quickly.


You&#39;d have to watch out for his little cohorts if the cage doesn&#39;t have a top. I hear TAT, DaCuBan, NoXion, and a few others will be circling the ring waiting for an opportune moment to throw a chair in there.

Damn dirty bastards.

DaCuBaN
28th June 2004, 02:21
Grand Indeed&#33;



Chapaev&#39;s Death

Урал, Урал-река,
Ни звука, ни огонька.
Чапаев винтовку сорвал со стены:
"Ребята, не время досматривать сны&#33;"
Казацкие кони храпят у ворот,

Тревожный рассвет над станицей встаёт.
Урал, Урал-река,
Тяжёлые облака.

Чапаев, удача рассталась с тобой.
Везде и всегда ты выигрывал бой,
Но в этом бою погибают друзья,
Враги окружают, и медлить нельзя...

Урал, Урал-река,
Вода холодней штыка.

Последнюю пулю пошли по врагу.
Живые, скрывайся на том берегу
Вдогонку палят: недолёт, перелёт...
И, раненный в руку, Чапаев плывёт.

Урал, Урал-река,
Слабеет его рука.

Проклятая пуля догнала в воде.
"Товарищ Чапаев&#33;" Не видно нигде.
"Товарищ Чапаев, наш друг боевой&#33;"
Круги разошлись над его головой.

Урал, Урал-река,
Могила его глубока.

До красных отрядов, река, добеги,
Скажи, что любимый Чапаев погиб.
Пусть конница мчится, пусть пули свистят,
Пусть красные белым за всё отомстят&#33;

Урал, Урал-река,
Бурлива и широка...

:hammer:

Vinny Rafarino
28th June 2004, 02:34
You&#39;d have to watch out for his little cohorts if the cage doesn&#39;t have a top. I hear TAT, DaCuBan, NoXion, and a few others will be circling the ring waiting for an opportune moment to throw a chair in there.

Damn dirty bastards.



That&#39;s fine because being the asshole that I am I will have a nice foreign object shaped like Stalin&#39;s head stuffed down my shiny little speedo.

What? You thought that was all me? Only in my most precious dreams.

elijahcraig
28th June 2004, 02:50
That&#39;s fine because being the asshole that I am I will have a nice foreign object shaped like Stalin&#39;s head stuffed down my shiny little speedo.

What? You thought that was all me? Only in my most precious dreams.

I knew you could handle it. That&#39;s why I stayed in the back locker room.

Vinny Rafarino
28th June 2004, 03:36
Originally posted by [email protected] 28 2004, 02:50 AM

I knew you could handle it. That&#39;s why I stayed in the back locker room.
I suppose you too heard that professional wresting locker rooms are the bathhouses of the new millennium.

Slut.

elijahcraig
28th June 2004, 03:41
I suppose you too heard that professional wresting locker rooms are the bathhouses of the new millennium.

Slut.

That&#39;s actually where I do my best business.

If you haven&#39;t heard, TAT and NoXion are now my whores. They do my bidding. They suck off limp old men for quarters and return the profit to me. They&#39;re good workers, I keep them fed.

They can turn a trick like it&#39;s making a sandwich. You should try them out if you ever feel lonely.

Stapler
28th June 2004, 03:45
I&#39;m feeling lonely right now... :lol:

canikickit
28th June 2004, 04:13
I&#39;m feeling RAF....&#39;s leg.

Vinny Rafarino
28th June 2004, 04:14
They can turn a trick like it&#39;s making a sandwich. You should try them out if you ever feel lonely.


I&#39;ve never been into lads but for a quarter.......Sold&#33;

elijahcraig
28th June 2004, 04:19
I&#39;ve never been into lads but for a quarter.......Sold&#33;

Only if you beat Rs.

Vinny Rafarino
28th June 2004, 05:02
Originally posted by [email protected] 28 2004, 04:13 AM
I&#39;m feeling RAF....&#39;s leg.
You owe me a quarter.

So I don&#39;t have to make change, I will allow you to feel the other leg.

I will expect my 50p next week.

Hiero
28th June 2004, 11:33
- No one deserves money

nakba
30th June 2004, 12:36
. the israelit people should be deported to the united states of Agression
. the economical elites should be all beaten up with large penises.
. There should be at least one Mosque in every city in the world, expecially in the west
. Every man should be equal in rights and duties, no mather what his race, ideal, culture or nationality is
. Irland should be turned into a huge museum of alchoolic beverages
.Every atractive women should be forced to have my baby...
. Man to man exploitation should be ended



thats pretty much everything...

nakba
30th June 2004, 12:51
i also think that all drugs should be legal, and the state should distribute in order to stop traffic....

the rehabilitation clinics and all rehabilitation organisations should work for free and should be funded by the state...

Vinny Rafarino
30th June 2004, 22:53
There should be at least one Mosque in every city in the world, expecially in the west



How quickly they jump ship.....

So, religious imperialism is your game now? Can&#39;t wait to see those glossies.

DaCuBaN
30th June 2004, 22:59
-Every religious building should be turned into a Metaphysical Betting Shop as per Edgar Malroy&#39;s Grand Plan
-Mineral water supplies should be poisoned in order to wipe out the middle class as per Grant & Naylor&#39;s Grand Plan

nakba
2nd July 2004, 11:39
Originally posted by COMRADE [email protected] 30 2004, 10:53 PM


How quickly they jump ship.....

So, religious imperialism is your game now? Can&#39;t wait to see those glossies.
since when is the freedom of worship religious imperialism?


I believe that there should be a mosque in every city of the west because you can&#39;t deny the existence of Muslims in the west, and they have the same right to have a worship place such as the christians...



It&#39;s meerely a mather of equality...

CubanFox
2nd July 2004, 12:22
Originally posted by [email protected] 2 2004, 09:39 PM
since when is the freedom of worship religious imperialism?


I believe that there should be a mosque in every city of the west because you can&#39;t deny the existence of Muslims in the west, and they have the same right to have a worship place such as the christians...



It&#39;s meerely a mather of equality...
No, forcing cities to put up mosques is religious imperialism. It is not equality. If there is a large enough Muslim community, they will build the mosque themselves.

nakba
3rd July 2004, 19:08
then i shall make terrorist attacks on every church in this Jah forsaken world...


There is alredy a muslim community big enough, yet after centuries of opression and cultural suffucation they lost all their strenght to "build a mosque themselfs"...


Their not all masons you know... ;)

bobby
4th July 2004, 23:45
--I&#39;m not completely prochoice
--I don&#39;t support Trotsky
--I don&#39;t like spandex (been said, but i really hate them)

nakba
5th July 2004, 13:06
I also think that there should be free cannabis for everyone....

Fidelbrand
5th July 2004, 13:48
"one to many marriage" should be legalised as long as consents among the adults have been made.

Homosexual love should be made legalised and made morally acceptible on a world-wide scale.

Those who rape should have their genitals castrated with a rusty saw. (Since it is pure injustive and coercion.)

Any fullblown selfish folks should be purged and mocked heavily until their mentality accepts that he/she lives in a society.

Purple
5th July 2004, 14:37
. all drugs should be illegal
. only hunting weapons should be allowed

Professor Moneybags
5th July 2004, 14:44
Originally posted by [email protected] 5 2004, 01:48 PM
Any fullblown selfish folks should be purged and mocked heavily until their mentality accepts that he/she lives in a society.
Purged ? What ever happened to "we&#39;re not going use force on anyone" ?

That being the case, I&#39;m sure 20 years in the army would sucessfully cure your love of communal living.

redfront
5th July 2004, 15:46
Originally posted by lost [email protected] 5 2004, 02:37 PM
. all drugs should be illegal
. only hunting weapons should be allowed
Does that include beer?? Sure we can&#39;t live without beer... It&#39;s our liquid gold damn it&#33; :ph34r:

(of cause I agree on the weapons though)

Purple
5th July 2004, 18:40
Originally posted by [email protected] 5 2004, 04:46 PM
Does that include beer?? Sure we can&#39;t live without beer... It&#39;s our liquid gold damn it&#33; :ph34r:

(of cause I agree on the weapons though)
sorry, i meant "heavy drugs", like weed, etc..

Postteen
5th July 2004, 21:09
-all cappies must be brainwashed.

DaCuBaN
6th July 2004, 07:44
all drugs should be illegal

Ahh, y&#39;see if you were to let go of the alcohol, I&#39;ll let go of the tetrahydrocanibol ;)

Fidelbrand
6th July 2004, 11:52
Originally posted by Professor [email protected] 5 2004, 10:44 PM
Purged ? What ever happened to "we&#39;re not going use force on anyone" ?

That being the case, I&#39;m sure 20 years in the army would sucessfully cure your love of communal living.
My love for communal living does not necessarily equate to destroying one&#39;s free life for a period of 20 years. That i think is more of a use of corecion than purging someone, since the former is more intense in duration and rids someone of his/her plan of life in a detrimental way.

Professor Moneybags
6th July 2004, 13:34
Originally posted by [email protected] 6 2004, 11:52 AM
My love for communal living does not necessarily equate to destroying one&#39;s free life for a period of 20 years.
It does if it&#39;s forced on someone and it&#39;s not just 20 years either, it&#39;s life.



That i think is more of a use of corecion than purging someone, since the former is more intense in duration and rids someone of his/her plan of life in a detrimental way.

A correction presupposes an error. Any "error" made, providing it does not involve the use of aggressive force, we should be tolerant of.

nakba
7th July 2004, 12:58
Originally posted by lost [email protected] 5 2004, 06:40 PM
sorry, i meant "heavy drugs", like weed, etc..
:rolleyes: ´


since when is weed a "heavy drug"?

do you know what a heavy drug is boy?

have you ever knew any addicted to heavy drugs such as crack?

well i know some, and i can tell you that weed is innofensive when compared with those heavy drugs...

so stop your ignorance and shut the fuck up

cubist
7th July 2004, 14:22
God exists and he wants me to kill you

my weed is heavy, oh shit wrong context i got a lot of weed thats why its heavy

heavy drugs come in grams ironic really

Purple
7th July 2004, 17:44
Originally posted by [email protected] 7 2004, 01:58 PM
:rolleyes: ´


since when is weed a "heavy drug"?

do you know what a heavy drug is boy?

have you ever knew any addicted to heavy drugs such as crack?

well i know some, and i can tell you that weed is innofensive when compared with those heavy drugs...

so stop your ignorance and shut the fuck up
okey, "drugs from weed and thereon..."


satisfied?

hiiamjef
7th July 2004, 19:37
The United States ought to be divided into atleast three smaller countries to reduce its threat to global security (yes, I partially stole this idea from Kurt Vonnegut.)

Wal-Mart should be dismantled and its CEOs, investors, and the rest of their filthy kind ought to be made an example out of by being charged for their denying people of their basic human rights and freedoms and for unethical business practice.

Conservatives ought to stop hiding behind the abortion and gay marriage debates in order to pick up free votes from dumb-ass Christian fundamentals who believe them.

Conservatives ought to realise that their hate of big government ought to include their most favourite form of big government: the military. As it is the biggest wasteful drain on all economies and societies everywhere. Did i mention dangerous and deadly? Of course, all such government apparatae are equally evil: military, health care, public housing, public transport... yes, quite bad indeed&#33;

Universal Health Care, unfortunately, would not work in the States. There are too many unhealthy individuals, due to an astounding rate of obesity. The system would break, as the scales already have.

American Evangelical Christians ought to realise that the State of Israel is in fact quite distinct from the people Israel in the Old Testament. They are separated by nearly 2,000 years of history. The current State of Israel is an essentially secular, parliamentary government with elected officials that carries out acts of terrorism against an inadequately-armed group of refugees, aided by the United States. This is not at all the sons of Abraham and Isaac. They are themselves refugees from tyranny--now carrying out their own tyranny on refugees--who are or descended from the mostly East-European Ashkenaz Jews. Having found themselves welcome in the British Mandate of Palestine are not anymore entitled to the land they are on than their less-powerful neighbours. In other words, stop using the "We need to stand by Israel" shit as a means to support terror you like and to attack terror that your Saudi friends tell you to hate.

Fidelbrand
10th July 2004, 18:05
It does if it&#39;s forced on someone and it&#39;s not just 20 years either, it&#39;s life.

I Never said we abandon the use of force. <_<
I propose correctional practice through purging those daft pricks, even if it it is force. I contend that is better than your proposal on 20 years or life improsonment for being " heavily selfish". :D Again, one have no chance to rehabit even if one is "corrected" .... in your case.... <_<


A correction presupposes an error. Any "error" made, providing it does not involve the use of aggressive force, we should be tolerant of.
then, What do you mean by force?
Selfish people disintegrates and affects the development of a society, that is negative force already.