piss on your grave

[Guest1]

Die you filthy scum...

[The Feral Underclass]

:lol: :lol: :lol:

Yes...in your face...!!!

*Jumps around the room shitting himself with laughter*

One down, thousands more to go!!! I really hope right now that Hell does exist...because I want to live the rest of my days knowing that that fucking reactionary pig dog fucker of a human being is burning in unbelievable pain for ever and ever and ever!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! But as hell doesnt exist, lets just rejoice in that fact that the world is rid of one more mutha fucka!!

HOZZAH...IN YOUR FACE!!!

[Y2A]

Nice to see your assuming that we are Republican Regan Supporters.

[The Feral Underclass]

Who care's what you are.....HE'S DEAD!!!!!

[Y2A]

Yep.

[Loknar]

Still sore that he caused the SU to collapse?

[Intifada]

Nice to see your assuming that we are Republican Regan Supporters.

first of all, he wasn't.

second of all you are the one who assumes that all communists are rich, suburban kids.

anyway, great news. :)

[Y2A]

Let's be real here. Regan did not contribute as much as to the Cold War as did other's before him. To say that he contributed the most to their collaspse is false.

Also, if you are listening. I would like CiaranB to tell me who will win next year's superbowl.

http://www.che-lives.com/forum/index.php?s...=0&#entry406004 (http://www.che-lives.com/forum/index.php?showtopic=25573&st=0&#entry406004)

[The Feral Underclass]

Originally posted by [email protected] 5 2004, 11:30 PM
Still sore that he caused the SU to collapse?
Ok...so he did one good thing!

[Y2A]

Originally posted by [email protected] 5 2004, 09:31 PM

Nice to see your assuming that we are Republican Regan Supporters.

first of all, he wasn't.

second of all you are the one who assumes that all communists are rich, suburban kids.

anyway, great news. :)
Incorrect. By posting this in OI and saying "in your face" it clearly makes it sound as if he was talking directly to the posters on these boards.

And second, as for me "assuming" that "communists" are rich suburban kids is indeed false because you are not communists. Communists are either members of the communist party or guerrilla fighters, which for the most part none of you are. Which makes you pinko suburbites, not true communists.

[DaCuBaN]

Incorrect. By posting this in OI and saying "in your face" it clearly makes it sound as if he was talking directly to the posters on these boards.


He was, that doesn't mean he was talking to you though. There are Reagen supporters on this site - Capitalist Imperial comes to mind for one.


And second, as for me "assuming" that "communists" are rich suburban kids is indeed false because you are not communists. Communists are either members of the communist party or guerrilla fighters, which for the most part none of you are. Which makes you pinko suburbites, not true communists

Indeed - it was Nas who asserted that all communists are rich suburban kids. Y2A merely sat in on the debate.

'The' communist party? There's only one? Here's me thinking half the problem was the immense divides between the different factions of the left ;)

'Pinko suburbites' is not exactly accurate though. Most of these people are still in their teens, and as such have a lot of 'soul searching' to do before they even know who they really are. Those who have better skills at disecting information from the media, or from history tend to find that there have been gross injustices both in the past and in the current age. These 'pinko suburbites' are in fact those people. By branding them as such you distance them from those on 'your side' and in fact help turn these people into communists

Cheers bud!

[Y2A]

Originally posted by [email protected] 5 2004, 09:49 PM
'The' communist party? There's only one? Here's me thinking half the problem was the immense divides between the different factions of the left ;)
The Third International or ComIntern as it was commonly known. Or, for that, any modern Communist party.

[Misodoctakleidist]

The theird international was dissolved like 70 years ago, the fourth international has split into factions.

[Y2A]

Well you know what I mean, as communists generaly refer to their party as "The Communist Party" to show international unity. I'm just using ComIntern as an example.

[Guest1]

Originally posted by [email protected] 5 2004, 06:03 PM
Well you know what I mean, as communists generaly refer to their party as "The Communist Party" to show international unity. I'm just using ComIntern as an example.
Actually, Marx said being a Communist has nothing to do with a Communist Party.

Not only that, but your idea of "the communist party" was something pushed by both the corrupted soviet leadership and the mccarthyists, to the detriment of real communists. Communism is not some monolitihic institution.

[DaCuBaN]

Well you know what I mean, as communists generaly refer to their party as "The Communist Party" to show international unity

Personally, I would say I&#39;m a communist (although they all call me a reformist <_< :rolleyes: ) yet it&#39;d be a cold day in hell that I&#39;d join a political party of any persuasion.

Perhaps that makes me an anarchist? :lol:

[elijahcraig]

Now that Reagan&#39;s dead...it&#39;s time to deify the father of the tribe.

It never ends.

Maybe they&#39;ll make another form of money and put his face on it.

[Commie Girl]

:lol: One less asshole&#33;

[STI]

Originally posted by [email protected] 5 2004, 10:40 PM
Now that Reagan&#39;s dead...it&#39;s time to deify the father of the tribe.

It never ends.

Maybe they&#39;ll make another form of money and put his face on it.
They&#39;ll call it the "noncents" [nonsense... get it?]

[Commie Girl]

:lol:

[STI]

I feel sorry for the worms who will be eating his corpse.

[Vinny Rafarino]

Merged with TAT&#39;s thread.

[The Feral Underclass]

My title was better&#33;

[Guest1]

No, I like mine, and thank you RAF :)

Oh, and welcome back :D

[Invader Zim]

he had Alzheimer&#39;s, for that I feal sorry for him. I once knew a person with Alzheimer&#39;s, it was most unpleasant.

I also think its wrong to celebrate a death... kinda morbid if you ask me. Not that I liked him or anything. I think his foreign policy was ludicrous to the extream. Was he a B-Movie actor once?

[Guest1]

Originally posted by [email protected] 5 2004, 08:03 PM
he had Alzheimer&#39;s, for that I feal sorry for him. I once knew a person with Alzheimer&#39;s, it was most unpleasant.

I also think its wrong to celebrate a death... kinda morbid if you ask me. Not that I liked him or anything. I think his foreign policy was ludicrous to the extream. Was he a B-Movie actor once?
He was.

It&#39;s wrong and morbid not to celebrate the death of someone like Reagan <_<

[Raisa]

So hes dead, and for the people that is nothing. His ideas still live.

[Invader Zim]

Originally posted by [email protected] 6 2004, 12:32 AM
So hes dead, and for the people that is nothing. His ideas still live.
Indeed, if anything this has just reminded all the cons about "what a great guy he was", and how he was the "best president ever".


However the reality is the man was a fool, who&#39;s foreign policy was weak and has lead to an escelation in the conflict between the West and the East.

[Y2A]

Originally posted by [email protected] 6 2004, 12:47 AM
who&#39;s foreign policy was weak and has lead to an escelation in the conflict between the West and the East.
I actually agree with you on that. He had the opportunity to drastically reduce the nuclear threat but didn&#39;t because he didn&#39;t want to give up Star Wars.

[redstar2000]

Delightful news...though 50 years overdue.

I don&#39;t think historians will have a very high opinion of him; he was already senile by his second term (1984-1988) and, to all intents and purposes, Nancy Reagan and her astrologer were de-facto president.

The ruling class seems to be more and more inclined towards "talking president dolls"...people who are "good symbols" rather than intelligent individuals in their own right. Such choices are capable of "speaking their lines with conviction", "looking presidential", and most of all "doing what they&#39;re told".

The real powers in this country are guys like Alan Greenspan...who never do anything so vulgar as to run for office.

:redstar2000:

The Redstar2000 Papers (http://www.redstar2000papers.fightcapitalism.net)
A site about communist ideas

[The Children of the Revolution]

The real powers in this country are guys like Alan Greenspan...who never do anything so vulgar as to run for office.


Sadly true...

I can&#39;t quite stomach the thought of people celebrating and gloating over a death - even that of Reagan. Whilst I won&#39;t be mourning his passing, it&#39;s still morally wrong, I think, to plan a party. Unless, of course, you mean to celebrate his life and work? (Didn&#39;t think so&#33; :P ) None of us would appreciate the far-right mocking the death of Che Guevara, would we? Of course not. Grow up, chaps&#33; :)

There is also a danger, of course, that he could become something of an idol, however unjustly. (As &#39;Enigma&#39; rightfully pointed out.) It might even win Bush, the "modern day equivalent", support in the polls. This is no good&#33;

[Guest1]

Originally posted by The Children of the [email protected] 5 2004, 10:01 PM
Sadly true...

I can&#39;t quite stomach the thought of people celebrating and gloating over a death - even that of Reagan. Whilst I won&#39;t be mourning his passing, it&#39;s still morally wrong, I think, to plan a party. Unless, of course, you mean to celebrate his life and work? (Didn&#39;t think so&#33; :P ) None of us would appreciate the far-right mocking the death of Che Guevara, would we? Of course not. Grow up, chaps&#33; :)
No sympathy for the devil...

I will, regardless of what anyone here thinks, be drinking to his death, and hope for Thatcher to follow.

[DaCuBaN]

Say what you like, but I will be raising my glass to him when I get off work. After all, he sincerely believed what he did was right. Even if misguided, this deserves some respect. This is all aside from the fact that he&#39;s simply another human being - albeit a bit of a bastard.


Grow up, chaps&#33;

Spot on :)

[lucid]

I am just glad that he will go down in the history books as being an honorable man. Unlike that filthly che bastard. He fell off the books before the worms finished.

[Guest1]

Originally posted by [email protected] 5 2004, 10:33 PM
Say what you like, but I will be raising my glass to him when I get off work. After all, he sincerely believed what he did was right. Even if misguided, this deserves some respect. This is all aside from the fact that he&#39;s simply another human being - albeit a bit of a bastard.


Grow up, chaps&#33;

Spot on :)
:huh:

Hitler believed in what he was doing too...

This is something very strange for a "Leftist" to say...

While you&#39;re busy respecting the fucker who destroyed nation after nation in the 80&#39;s, George Bush is busy living in his footsteps.

Will you drink to Georgy too? I&#39;m quite disappointed in people here these days <_<

Let&#39;s see if his victims feel the same way about "respecting" his convictions. Murder, if you believe in it, is still fucking murder. Have some fucking respect for the dead his policies created...

Sickening behaviour I must say...

[DaCuBaN]

Because I&#39;m not willing to disregard human life?


he sincerely believed what he did was right. Even if misguided, this deserves some respect. This is all aside from the fact that he&#39;s simply another human being

I stand by my assertion, and would in fact go further that i consider it disturbing that the difference between admiration and respect go unnoticed...

[Guest1]

Originally posted by [email protected] 5 2004, 10:52 PM
Because I&#39;m not willing to disregard human life?


he sincerely believed what he did was right. Even if misguided, this deserves some respect. This is all aside from the fact that he&#39;s simply another human being

I stand by my assertion, and would in fact go further that i consider it disturbing that the difference between admiration and respect go unnoticed...
You have the luxury of playing thesaurus with me, his victims do not <_<

I again point you to my comment that Hitler believed what he was doing as well.

Still disgusting...

[DaCuBaN]

I again point you to my comment that Hitler believed what he was doing as well

Indeed, and my apologies for not covering it at first - I did not consider it to be the nub of your point. Hitler, like many others deserves no admiration, but can be respected for the manner in which he managed to subvert so many people to his cause. It&#39;s despicable, but nonetheless impressive. The same thing can be said about Reagen - asshole and all, in the face of adversity he did what he believed was right.

I don&#39;t have to agree with either of them to respect the conviction behind what they did. Hell, I can and do downright disagree with what both parties did.


Let&#39;s see if his victims feel the same way about "respecting" his convictions. Murder, if you believe in it, is still fucking murder. Have some fucking respect for the dead his policies created...

Anger/Frustration doesn&#39;t make your point any more clear ;)
Indeed, my entire argument is based on the fact that alive or dead, we shouldn&#39;t be slandering anyone.

[Deathb4Dishonor]

What are you guys a bunch of gothic kids who talk about dead people all the time and pretend to be communist because you think it makes people afraid of you? wak the fuck up communism cant work if you want to know why read my explination of my quote in opos idea or shake the shit out of your head ronal reagan was a good man and i morn his death

[Guest1]

Originally posted by [email protected] 5 2004, 11:08 PM
Anger/Frustration doesn&#39;t make your point any more clear ;)
Indeed, my entire argument is based on the fact that alive or dead, we shouldn&#39;t be slandering anyone.
I don&#39;t have to slander him, are you denying he was a cold-blooded murderer?

It has to be false to be slander, furthermore, all I said was I&#39;m happy the fucker is dead, and so should you be.

Anyone who is drinking to this guy tomorrow and not to his death, I spit in their glass. Regardless of your notions of morality that somehow it is wrong to feel good about the death of a ruthless bastard who had only the interests of the American ruling class in mind <_<

Go back to the corner and think of what you did. I&#39;m angry cause you&#39;re taking a position that is disgusting, if you wanna talk morality. Which is worse, celebrating a murderer&#39;s death? Or this:


Say what you like, but I will be raising my glass to him when I get off work. After all, he sincerely believed what he did was right. Even if misguided, this deserves some respect.
Your morality is oddly one-sided. Where is your respect for the human lives he ended? Non-existant, obviously they mean less to you than this asshole.

Good day to you sir.

[Orange Juche]

Originally posted by [email protected] 5 2004, 11:31 PM
What are you guys a bunch of gothic kids who talk about dead people all the time and pretend to be communist because you think it makes people afraid of you? wak the fuck up communism cant work if you want to know why read my explination of my quote in opos idea or shake the shit out of your head ronal reagan was a good man and i morn his death
You slut&#33; You whore&#33; You Capitalist&#33;

[Deathb4Dishonor]

Originally posted by MeetingPeopleIsEasy+Jun 6 2004, 03:46 AM--> (MeetingPeopleIsEasy @ Jun 6 2004, 03:46 AM)
[email protected] 5 2004, 11:31 PM
What are you guys a bunch of gothic kids who talk about dead people all the time and pretend to be communist because you think it makes people afraid of you? wak the fuck up communism cant work if you want to know why read my explination of my quote in opos idea or shake the shit out of your head ronal reagan was a good man and i morn his death
You slut&#33; You whore&#33; You Capitalist&#33; [/b]
This will trigure the rest of you wanna be communist to laugh and poke jokes at me making no actual point just trying to cover up what i said because you all know its true

[Orange Juche]

Originally posted by Deathb4Dishonor+Jun 5 2004, 11:53 PM--> (Deathb4Dishonor @ Jun 5 2004, 11:53 PM)
Originally posted by [email protected] 6 2004, 03:46 AM

[email protected] 5 2004, 11:31 PM
What are you guys a bunch of gothic kids who talk about dead people all the time and pretend to be communist because you think it makes people afraid of you? wak the fuck up communism cant work if you want to know why read my explination of my quote in opos idea or shake the shit out of your head ronal reagan was a good man and i morn his death
You slut&#33; You whore&#33; You Capitalist&#33;
This will trigure the rest of you wanna be communist to laugh and poke jokes at me making no actual point just trying to cover up what i said because you all know its true [/b]
Neh, I was just being silly. In all seriousness, you are making a big generalization, and every communist person I have met hasn&#39;t been "gothic." You appear not to be very knowledgeable of communism, anyways.

[Guest1]

Originally posted by [email protected] 5 2004, 11:56 PM
Neh, I was just being silly. In all seriousness, you are making a big generalization, and every communist person I have met hasn&#39;t been "gothic." You appear not to be very knowledgeable of communism, anyways.
Just ignore him, he&#39;s useless and likely in the Army.

So what do you think, will you be toasting to old ronny&#39;s death? :D

[Orange Juche]

lol, well, I dont like to celebrate death. I would definately celebrate if his ideologies died.

[Guest1]

Originally posted by [email protected] 6 2004, 12:03 AM
lol, well, I dont like to celebrate death. I would definately celebrate if his ideologies died.
Well, I&#39;ll respect that... at least you&#39;re not toasting to his life like someone said... nor telling me you respect him :P

[Commie Girl]

:P I, for one, will be celebrating his death...&#33;

[Deathb4Dishonor]

Thats much better you cant piss on some ones grave who isnt there to defend them selves how do you know that if you you sat down with ronald regean that you wouldnt like him? (i mean before he got the illness) hate his policys and ideas not his personality

[DaCuBaN]

Originally posted by Che y Marijuana+Jun 6 2004, 03:43 AM--> (Che y Marijuana @ Jun 6 2004, 03:43 AM)
[email protected] 5 2004, 11:08 PM
Anger/Frustration doesn&#39;t make your point any more clear ;)
Indeed, my entire argument is based on the fact that alive or dead, we shouldn&#39;t be slandering anyone.
I don&#39;t have to slander him, are you denying he was a cold-blooded murderer?

It has to be false to be slander, furthermore, all I said was I&#39;m happy the fucker is dead, and so should you be.

Anyone who is drinking to this guy tomorrow and not to his death, I spit in their glass. Regardless of your notions of morality that somehow it is wrong to feel good about the death of a ruthless bastard who had only the interests of the American ruling class in mind <_<

Go back to the corner and think of what you did. I&#39;m angry cause you&#39;re taking a position that is disgusting, if you wanna talk morality. Which is worse, celebrating a murderer&#39;s death? Or this:


Say what you like, but I will be raising my glass to him when I get off work. After all, he sincerely believed what he did was right. Even if misguided, this deserves some respect.
Your morality is oddly one-sided. Where is your respect for the human lives he ended? Non-existant, obviously they mean less to you than this asshole.

Good day to you sir. [/b]
I&#39;m not a violent person, but much in the same way as I imagine my original post did to you, had you said that to my face I would have turned around and floored you.

Not that I&#39;m proud of that - hell, I stayed away long enough before posting a retort to allow myself the time to calm down.


I don&#39;t have to slander him, are you denying he was a cold-blooded murderer?

Did I ever say he was a &#39;nice man&#39; or even had &#39;good ideas&#39;? NO&#33;


Anyone who is drinking to this guy tomorrow and not to his death, I spit in their glass. Regardless of your notions of morality that somehow it is wrong to feel good about the death of a ruthless bastard who had only the interests of the American ruling class in mind

You are more than free to hold this opinion. I merely asserted that I would have him and his kin in my thoughts over my morning coffee. You evidently have a problem with this - after all only people who follow your ideologies are worthy of respect.


Your morality is oddly one-sided. Where is your respect for the human lives he ended? Non-existant, obviously they mean less to you than this asshole.

Did I ever say I had no respect for those who suffered as a result of the man? NO&#33;

I await the thread for my excommunication :lol:

[HankMorgan]

Originally posted by [email protected] 5 2004, 06:40 PM
Maybe they&#39;ll make another form of money and put his face on it.
Good idea.

I came of age during Nixon, Ford and Carter. It wasn&#39;t a good time. Then came President Reagan and the sun shone again. He will always be my President.

Rest in peace, President Reagan.

[Guest1]

Originally posted by [email protected] 6 2004, 12:30 AM
I&#39;m not a violent person, but much in the same way as I imagine my original post did to you, had you said that to my face I would have turned around and floored you.
You would have tried. Don&#39;t let the hippy nickname and the general peacefulness fool you.


Did I ever say I had no respect for those who suffered as a result of the man? NO&#33;
It&#39;s one thing to refuse to drink to his death, and quite another to drink to him. That&#39;s where I said you&#39;re being disrespectful to the dead.


I await the thread for my excommunication :lol:
No need for that, I just think you need to re-evaluate your priorities.

[DaCuBaN]

You would have tried. Don&#39;t let the hippy nickname and the general peacefulness fool you

A stoned argentine against a cuban? no contest really ;) :lol:


It&#39;s one thing to refuse to drink to his death, and quite another to drink to him. That&#39;s where I said you&#39;re being disrespectful to the dead.


Did I say I would be &#39;drinking to him&#39; though? OR did I say that my thoughts would be dwelling on this whilst I have my drink. I believe there is a difference, even if I did not make it apparent. I made my opposition to the man&#39;s ideals apparent, so I assumed (wrongly it seems) that I wouldn&#39;t have to flame the deceased before intimating the shame of another &#39;soul&#39; leaving us.


No need for that, I just think you need to re-evaluate your priorities

I think they are perfectly in order. Without dwelling on how these people effected the world, how do we truly learn from what they have done?

Reagan has taught us many lessons - unfortunately the hard way. He&#39;s also not a poor role model - stalwart, opinionated - he just had very bad ideology.

I still stand by my original assertion that this man in his death does deserve our respect - Even if it&#39;s just from an adverserial(sp?) point of view

*EDIT*

I find it quite sad that people are willing to drop themselves to the level of some of the shite we getting floating into the OI for a man they utterly despise.

[Guest1]

Originally posted by [email protected] 6 2004, 12:56 AM
A stoned argentine against a cuban? no contest really ;) :lol:
Argentine? I&#39;m in Canada and it matters not what my nationality is. Where&#39;d you get Argentine?


Did I say I would be &#39;drinking to him&#39; though? OR did I say that my thoughts would be dwelling on this whilst I have my drink.
Well...


Say what you like, but I will be raising my glass to him when I get off work. After all, he sincerely believed what he did was right. Even if misguided, this deserves some respect.
That&#39;s more than being in your thoughts, whatever the fuck that means.


I made my opposition to the man&#39;s ideals apparent, so I assumed (wrongly it seems) that I wouldn&#39;t have to flame the deceased before intimating the shame of another &#39;soul&#39; leaving us.
Great shame... he will be dearly missed... pathetic&#33; <_<


I think they are perfectly in order. Without dwelling on how these people effected the world, how do we truly learn from what they have done?
I will be dwelling on how he has affected the world, that&#39;s why I gotta drink to his death now that he&#39;s gone. Evidently it is you who has not dwelled on his actions and mark on this world. Those who learned anything from Reagan, learned that we should never "respect" an asshole like him.


Reagan has taught us many lessons - unfortunately the hard way. He&#39;s also not a poor role model - stalwart, opinionated - he just had very bad ideology.
You&#39;re reaching, you really are.


still stand by my original assertion that this man in his death does deserve our respect - Even if it&#39;s just from an adverserial(sp?) point of view
There&#39;s a difference between respecting your enemy and understanding him. The first is a fucking waste of time, the second is a must. He may have been a "powerful adversary", if you wanna go there, but that should command no respect from anyone serious about worker&#39;s liberation.

No respect for mass-murderers, racists, sexists, and the extreme right.

[Salvador Allende]

I raise a glass to his death. He was a horrible man. Responsible for many deaths across Central and South America, Africa and the Middle-East. He also hurt US public education and ignored the AIDs crisis.

[Invictus]

As I recall I was banned for posting a thread celebrating a certain individual&#39;s death. (http://s7.invisionfree.com/capitalistparadise/index.php?showtopic=51)

[DaCuBaN]

Argentine? I&#39;m in Canada and it matters not what my nationality is. Where&#39;d you get Argentine?

Che with weed against a cuban - I took it from your name. Funnily enough, I&#39;m not cuban either :rolleyes:


That&#39;s more than being in your thoughts, whatever the fuck that means

You don&#39;t understand what I&#39;m saying, but you know it can&#39;t be right? :lol:


No respect for mass-murderers, racists, sexists, and the extreme right

So once a person becomes a criminal in your eyes, they can never again add anything of use to any debate, ever?

If so I&#39;d give up on pushing for revolution/evolution - it cannot happen by your own ruling.


I will be dwelling on how he has affected the world, that&#39;s why I gotta drink to his death now that he&#39;s gone. Evidently it is you who has not dwelled on his actions and mark on this world. Those who learned anything from Reagan, learned that we should never "respect" an asshole like him

I&#39;m going to buy you a thesarus for your birthday... I haven&#39;t missed it have I? :rolleyes:

We&#39;ve been on this ground before, and you admitted the difference between respect and admiration. There is nothing to admire in RR, but he did have qualities as a human being that are worthy of respect. Can you not step off the soapbox long enough to see the situation as it truly is? We have a man, who after a disasterous/phenomenal (dependant on your views) political career entirely backed out of the arena to live out his days, and ends up spending the best part of 20 years crippled, and now is dead. We have no duty to mourn the death of a man who did nothing for the cause we both believe in, but I believe that as we are supposed to be the &#39;good guys&#39; perhaps we should be setting an example.


You&#39;re reaching, you really are.

I&#39;m trying to help you see both sides of the story. I know, just as you seem determined to point out to me nonetheless, that RR was a capitalist dog.

*EDIT*

In all honesty, I didn&#39;t think I&#39;d need to back myself up on this point - respect for those who pass should be de facto as far as I am concerned.

[Professor Moneybags]

I&#39;ll bet Infidel Castro and Noam Chomsky haven&#39;t got long left, either.

[DaCuBaN]

And thanks to this absurd thread you have all the license you require to piss on their graves too.

Enjoy it <_<

[Hate Is Art]

You would have tried. Don&#39;t let the hippy nickname and the general peacefulness fool you.

I&#39;ll second that, he looks like he is ready to kill, apparentyl he is also a werewolf&#33;&#33;&#33; GRRR&#33;&#33;

[Misodoctakleidist]

Originally posted by [email protected] 6 2004, 03:31 AM
What are you guys a bunch of gothic kids who talk about dead people all the time and pretend to be communist because you think it makes people afraid of you? wak the fuck up communism cant work if you want to know why read my explination of my quote in opos idea or shake the shit out of your head ronal reagan was a good man and i morn his death
Learn to use a bit of punctuation, most people at least manage to muster a full stop at the end of a paragraph.

[Victor-Meunier]

Actually I&#39;m not in courent : how has he died ?

(on his grave I&#39;d write a "you died just like anyone else...hehe")

[canikickit]

Reagan&#39;s death was caused by pneumonia, complicated by Alzheimer&#39;s.

[The Children of the Revolution]

No respect for mass-murderers, racists, sexists, and the extreme right.


What criticisms do Leftists commonly level at the far right? I would argue that a "lack of respect" (for other cultures, other opinions, "minority" lifestyle choices etc.) is high on the list. Even if one doesn&#39;t agree with a particular choice - whatever it may be - I have come to realise that respecting that choice rather than decrying it is crucial.

On this hallowed site, I once inadvertantly labelled the Japanese "barbarians"; after seeing a picture of the dolphin hunting that goes on off their coast. Now, I do have something of a passion for dolphins, (nothing physical, I assure you... :P ) but that was no excuse to call Japanese culture barbaric. Incidentally, this was never my intention - I just found the slaughter of dolphins offensive. But my words weren&#39;t chosen particularly well and people interpreted them as an attack on an entire culture. For which I was duly savaged. Respect for other cultures is absolutely necessary&#33;

Similarly, even if you despise the ideology of the late Ronald Reagan, (as I&#39;m sure most members do) gloating over his death is not the way to combat it. Rather, defeat it with words and ideas of your own - intellectually. This should be the aim of Communists worldwide; winning the support of the people by virtue of our superior views, not by degrading our opponents&#33;



In all honesty, I didn&#39;t think I&#39;d need to back myself up on this point - respect for those who pass should be de facto as far as I am concerned.


Absolutely.

I&#39;m with &#39;DaCuBaN&#39; on this one.

[synthesis]

Good riddance to bad trash. Nature finished what Hinckley couldn&#39;t.

However, ultimately, it makes little sense to expend any energy celebrating his death. He has not served any purpose whatsoever for at least 20 years.

[Loknar]

Take a look at him, he was no different than any other world leader. Every leader runs t his world the exact same way, he was no different.

[Capitalist Imperial]

Originally posted by Che y [email protected] 5 2004, 08:59 PM
Die you filthy scum...
Quality stuff

[Capitalist Imperial]

How dare your disrespect one of history&#39;s greatest champions of freedom and democracy> Ronald Reagan was a true world-statesman, a victorious cold warrior, and among America&#39;s, and dare I even say history&#39;s, greatest leaders.

I&#39;m going to Simi Valley to pay my respects.

[edited by Che y Marijuana: enough of this... defend mass murderers as you wish, but don&#39;t expect to get away with blatant spam anymore]

[Louis Pio]

How dare your disrespect one of history&#39;s greatest champions of freedom and democracy> Ronald Reagan was a true world-statesman, a victorious cold warrior, and among America&#39;s, and dare I even say history&#39;s, greatest leaders.


Even from a capitalist point of view this is quite questionable. The USSR was already on the path of changing, this can be seen in how easy the former beurucracy transformed itself into capitalists.
Anyway if we are to talk about so called "great leaders" (funny how your rhetoric is similar to maoism) from your standpoint a person like Roosevelt, Napoleon and many others are clearly greater than him.

[redstar2000]

What criticisms do Leftists commonly level at the far right? I would argue that a "lack of respect" (for other cultures, other opinions, "minority" lifestyle choices etc.) is high on the list. Even if one doesn&#39;t agree with a particular choice - whatever it may be - I have come to realise that respecting that choice rather than decrying it is crucial.

All muddled up...as usual.

Criticisms of "the far right" are not directed at "intolerance" in the abstract...the criticisms are specific. What we would tolerate and even embrace ourselves is exactly what they find "intolerable".

Conversely, what they find acceptable and even praiseworthy is precisely what we should not tolerate&#33;

The reason that the left appears more "tolerant" than the right is that our tolerance tends to be focused on the powerless; whereas those who now actually have power see no reason to be tolerant at all. Why should they?

When "our turn" comes, why should we be tolerant of their choices...or of them?

:redstar2000:

The Redstar2000 Papers (http://www.redstar2000papers.fightcapitalism.net)
A site about communist ideas

[caliban]

Can somebody please explain to me WHY he was such a great leader. Could it be reflected in the Iran-Contra affair? How about tripling the national debt by increased defence spending. And last but not least....any asshole who has Brian Mulroney give the speach at their funeral should be dead. Great leadership my ass. The only "smart" thing the man did was dupe the USSR into believing that star wars was real.

[Commie Girl]

:wacko: Yes, here&#33; here&#33; on the Brian Mulroney thing&#33; He is also to be reviled. As bad as Thatcher&#33;

[Cooler Reds Will Prevail]

any claim that Reagan was a great president is complete and utter b.b.b.b.b.bullshit... economy went up, but the deficit tripled and the gap between the rich and poor grew dramatically... champion of democracy? what about the democratic governments he overthrew to put an American puppet at the helm of control?

i don&#39;t plan to celebrate his death and i agree, i&#39;d rather have him alive and his ideas dead, but his death didn&#39;t affect me emotionally much.


Originally posted by Capitalist Imperial
How dare your disrespect one of history&#39;s greatest champions of freedom and democracy> Ronald Reagan was a true world-statesman, a victorious cold warrior, and among America&#39;s, and dare I even say history&#39;s, greatest leaders.

buahahahahahahahahahahahaha

*stops to breathe*

hahahahahahahahahahaha :lol: :lol: :lol:

PENDEJOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO&#33;&#33;&#33; chupame los huevos cabrooooon hijo de su chingada madreeee

[DaCuBaN]

When "our turn" comes, why should we be tolerant of their choices...or of them?


This is the first thing that you have sad to make me worry about your reasons for being a socialist. This, to me, sounds like you wish to remove one rules and replace him with another of your choice instead.

This is one place at least where the anarchists get it right: no man should rule.


How dare your disrespect one of history&#39;s greatest champions of freedom and democracy> Ronald Reagan was a true world-statesman, a victorious cold warrior, and among America&#39;s, and dare I even say history&#39;s, greatest leaders.


That&#39;s quite alright... I&#39;m happy for him to go down in history with other famous leaders such as Alexander the Great, Attila the Hun, Winston Churchill, Margaret Thatcher

All fine moralistic leaders :rolleyes:


This is why you commies always lose and are losers, you have have no appreciation for true greatness. You weak-sucks are not fit to eat the dogshit off of Ronald Reagan&#39;s shoes, so shut your stupid pie-holes and show some respect for one of America&#39;s and capitalism&#39;s greatest heroes.


You mean anarchists of course. There are many communists who participate as maniacally in this kind of &#39;hero worship&#39;.

They too, are as equally misguided as yourself. You preach respect but do not show any.

This is hypocracy, and not what I have come to expect of you

[Guest1]

Originally posted by [email protected] 8 2004, 03:33 PM
This is hypocracy, and not what I have come to expect of you
You haven&#39;t known him long enough :P

As for his post, no more spam.

[Ziggy]

Reagan was a significant president, but in no way a great or even good president, he was quite lousy

[Capitalist Imperial]

Originally posted by I chicorazon I+Jun 8 2004, 06:44 PM--> (I chicorazon I @ Jun 8 2004, 06:44 PM) any claim that Reagan was a great president is complete and utter b.b.b.b.b.bullshit... economy went up, but the deficit tripled and the gap between the rich and poor grew dramatically... champion of democracy? what about the democratic governments he overthrew to put an American puppet at the helm of control?

i don&#39;t plan to celebrate his death and i agree, i&#39;d rather have him alive and his ideas dead, but his death didn&#39;t affect me emotionally much.


Capitalist Imperial
How dare your disrespect one of history&#39;s greatest champions of freedom and democracy> Ronald Reagan was a true world-statesman, a victorious cold warrior, and among America&#39;s, and dare I even say history&#39;s, greatest leaders.

buahahahahahahahahahahahaha

*stops to breathe*

hahahahahahahahahahaha :lol: :lol: :lol:

PENDEJOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO&#33;&#33;&#33; chupame los huevos cabrooooon hijo de su chingada madreeee [/b]
Pinche tu madre, chico. No tienes bastante los juevos a jugar con migo.

Vive los Estados Unidos&#33;

Reagan por Vida&#33;&#33;&#33;&#33;

[DaCuBaN]

Purely out of interest CI, when were you officially classified as "Reagans *****" :lol:

And rough translations:

Asshole, suck eggs you son of a ***** (I think)

Puncture(penetrate?) your mother, boy. You do not have enough the juevos(balls?) to play with migo(me?). Long live the United States&#33; Reagan lives&#33;

In case you hadn&#39;t guessed that came courtesy of the babblefish ;)

[Guest1]

Puncture your mother? You mean fuck your mother.

And he became reagan&#39;s ***** when he posted that long rant and I saw it.

[Winston Smith]

Originally posted by [email protected] 8 2004, 09:07 PM
Reagan was a significant president, but in no way a great or even good president, he was quite lousy
All he did was give the US a large deficet, Iran-Contra, and a recesion. Sorry that he had alzhimers but sure wont miss him.

[Capitalist Imperial]

Recession? What planet were you on in the 80&#39;s?

Reagan created unparralleled economic expansion in the US, secured and extended US interests in Latin America, and held a strong stance against the Soviet regime.

Iran-Contra was not really bad for America in essence.

My sigs were there before Reagan passed, by the way.

[Ziggy]

All he did was give the US a large deficet, Iran-Contra, and a recesion.
and thats not significant? he created the first large deficit and recesion since the great depression, he reveresed laws of previous presidencies that had protected the enviroment and workers, he damn well nearly restarted the red scare, and probably went against the monroe doctrine more than any other president before him&#33;

Reagan already has a fucking airport and a building in DC now they want a memorial(doesnt the person usually have to be dead for a while before they erect a memorial to comemorate them), want him on either the 10, 20, dime or quarter&#33; Fuck you Hamilton, Fuck you Jackson, Fuck you FDR, and Fuck you Washington&#33; whats next make him a golden god?

[Cooler Reds Will Prevail]

Originally posted by Capitalist Imperial+Jun 9 2004, 01:11 AM--> (Capitalist Imperial @ Jun 9 2004, 01:11 AM)
Originally posted by I chicorazon [email protected] 8 2004, 06:44 PM
any claim that Reagan was a great president is complete and utter b.b.b.b.b.bullshit... economy went up, but the deficit tripled and the gap between the rich and poor grew dramatically... champion of democracy? what about the democratic governments he overthrew to put an American puppet at the helm of control?

i don&#39;t plan to celebrate his death and i agree, i&#39;d rather have him alive and his ideas dead, but his death didn&#39;t affect me emotionally much.


Capitalist Imperial
How dare your disrespect one of history&#39;s greatest champions of freedom and democracy> Ronald Reagan was a true world-statesman, a victorious cold warrior, and among America&#39;s, and dare I even say history&#39;s, greatest leaders.

buahahahahahahahahahahahaha

*stops to breathe*

hahahahahahahahahahaha :lol: :lol: :lol:

PENDEJOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO&#33;&#33;&#33; chupame los huevos cabrooooon hijo de su chingada madreeee
Pinche tu madre, chico. No tienes bastante los juevos a jugar con migo.

Vive los Estados Unidos&#33;

Reagan por Vida&#33;&#33;&#33;&#33; [/b]
hahahaha lmao @ C.I. wow don&#39;t talk shit to me unless you can really speak spanish kiddo...... :lol:

[Capitalist Imperial]

It may not have been perfect spanish, but it was discernable.

You know exactly what I was saying. You are just mad because you thought I wouldn&#39;t understand your spanish in the 1st place.

Sorry, "kiddo", but I grew up in California.

Latin Commie - puke

[Madman]

Originally posted by Ziggy
whats next make him a golden god?
Yes

Blah blah blah blah... I&#39;m a fan of Che because he fought for what he believed in, not because he is a communist.

Burn. :)

[Edited by Che y Marijuana: respectful debate or none at all]

[kingbee]

Reagan

*cemented relations with saddam (remember him?)- he sent a personal letter to monseiur hussein offering help against iran. it was carried by a certain mr rumsfeld to saddam.

*invaded grenada

* overthrew the elected government of nicaragua

*helped arm bin laden, and authorised the cia to construct tunnels in afghanistan= tora bora anyone?

* vetoed any blockades against south africa, due to nelson mandela "being a communist"

anything else?

[volkan]

If all the presidents of the US after WW II would be trailed for nuhrenburg, they would probably all get hanged.

- noam chomsky -

[Commie-K]

Was a great day, that of Reagan&#39;s death.

[Latin American Socialist]

the man was shot, had colon cancer, and athzimers. For a minute i was begining to think the man was immortal, but the day has come. The capitalist ***** has croaked&#33;