CAPITALISM: Fizzling

[themessiah]

Take it from someone who knows. Who understands. Who might care, but might not. The failure of Capitalism is all but complete.

Please forgive any UNINTENTIONAL bitter sounds that may be attributed to any of those words.

Here is what I am trying to say. No matter what the capitalists say - you are insane! You are wrong! You are mistaken! I will stand firm. And shout out: NO I AM NOT!

They can chain me. Drug me. Inprison me. Torture me. Torment me. Hound me. Clone me. Experiment on me. Lie to me. Mistreat me. Strangle me. Kill me.

And until my dying breath I will deny them. THEY ARE WRONG! What they have, all they can do, all they have done and plan to me holds no bearing on my purpose. What I am. All that I can be. Nothing can stop me. They can repeat the process of torture and druggung and hounding endlessly. They will not shake my belief. They cannot change me. I BELIEVE! I AM A BELIEVER!

BRING TO ME YOUR ACCUSERS! YOUR PROSECUTERS! YOUR INTROLOCUTERS! YOUR ABUSERS, YOUR CONFUSERS, REFUSERS, SEDUCERS!

You will not and cannot change my mind. THIS TIME I AM RIGHT!

brand me with any insanity you want

imprison me indefinately

force feed me any drugs you desire

follow and hound me to every end of the earth

strangle and choke the air out of me

it all matters not to my sensibility. JUSTICE will find me, and SHE ALONE can protect and assist, guide and love, cherish me. what you have is nothing. I have it all. this cannot be taken. THE TRUTH!

WE HAVE FOUGHT FOR ETERNITY AND WE HAVE WON!

and I will wait for eternity ALL OVER AGAIN if you force me to

[themessiah]

did I say JUSTICE?

I might have meant Janice

just don't tell carole

or joan

[Y2A]

What the hell are you talking about?

[Nyder]

I think you're aiming at the wrong target. All those things you describe come exclusively from criminals and Governments (who basically are criminals).

If you don't like the businessman then don't buy from him. Simple.

[themessiah]

right, the capitalist criminals

who punish people for belief

for belief can inspire others to believe, and when people believe, people hope.

hope does not make a good worker. a good producer of capital. our faith, our dreams, our love, our belief, our desire and goals, our heaven, our God, our everything must be taken away. stolen. chanelled into TV and movies so that we don't think. we are told what to think. we don't believe. we are told what to believe.

I will fight against this.

I will believe. I will think. I will love.

[lucid]

I think someone had their medication changed.

[Hate Is Art]

"The United States is like a giant boiler. Once the fire it lighted under it, there is no limit to the power it can generate.
- Winston Churchhill"

Nice to see you quoting the old whiskey swiller!! You can't seem to spell his name right!

[themessiah]

who, me?

right, that was a direct quotation of what I was saying

thats EXACTLY what I was trying to say

to the letter!

[Y2A]

He's talking to Lucid about his sig.

[Professor Moneybags]

Take it from someone who knows. Who understands. Who might care, but might not. The failure of Capitalism is all but complete.

You lot have been chanting the same mantra for 150 years.



Here is what I am trying to say. No matter what the capitalists say - you are insane! You are wrong! You are mistaken! I will stand firm. And shout out: NO I AM NOT!

They can chain me. Drug me. Inprison me. Torture me. Torment me. Hound me. Clone me. Experiment on me. Lie to me. Mistreat me. Strangle me. Kill me.

And until my dying breath I will deny them. THEY ARE WRONG! What they have, all they can do, all they have done and plan to me holds no bearing on my purpose. What I am. All that I can be. Nothing can stop me. They can repeat the process of torture and druggung and hounding endlessly. They will not shake my belief. They cannot change me. I BELIEVE! I AM A BELIEVER!

BRING TO ME YOUR ACCUSERS! YOUR PROSECUTERS! YOUR INTROLOCUTERS! YOUR ABUSERS, YOUR CONFUSERS, REFUSERS, SEDUCERS!

You will not and cannot change my mind. THIS TIME I AM RIGHT!

brand me with any insanity you want

imprison me indefinately

force feed me any drugs you desire

follow and hound me to every end of the earth

strangle and choke the air out of me

it all matters not to my sensibility. JUSTICE will find me, and SHE ALONE can protect and assist, guide and love, cherish me. what you have is nothing. I have it all. this cannot be taken. THE TRUTH!

WE HAVE FOUGHT FOR ETERNITY AND WE HAVE WON!

and I will wait for eternity ALL OVER AGAIN if you force me to

Why didn't you just put "I'm right because I say so" ?

[Chad King]

Originally posted by Professor [email protected] 6 2004, 07:52 AM
Why didn't you just put "I'm right because I say so" ?
Hehe...

Anyways, if the fall of Capitalism could come at any second, Im pretty sure it probably would have happened by now... I mean, its like a plague that overtook the entire planet, and for it to fall would mean damn near an entire planet would have to suddenly not believe that Capitalism works.

Most people's response to your statements will be to step inside their brand new car and drive home to a new flatscreen TV to watch the lastest Sports headlines.

And if the planet happened to somehow fallout, then Anarchism would ensue for about 10 minutes before someone with strength and pretty ideas would sweet talk part of the populace and offer them the chance to the return to the life they once had, complete with cars, flat screens and sports.

So no, as much I dont like to say it, Capitalism isnt going to randomly fall into itself.

"And remember kiddies, multi-million dollar companies dont fall on their own, they need the help of precious supporters such as yourself."

I laughed when I heard it from a man who called himself Bodhi when I was traveling through Savannah, GA. Its true.

[Y2A]

And also messor messiah. How exactly is "lifespan decreasing by the second"? Statistics? Links? Source? Anything?

[Chad King]

The fuck? Does every other person that posts here ask for proof to back someone's opinion? He posted why he thinks Capitalism will fall, end of story, you are then allowed to comment. If there were statistic saying Capitalism is falling, Im sure it would be more outward than some kid posting a cute graph on a forum.

[Y2A]

So what your saying is that you have no proof of actual decline in lifespan since the publication of The Wealth of Nations by Adam Smith aside from the ultra-"cool" and "rebelious' opinions of a dedicated keyboard marxist the messiah.

I bow to you intellect messor Chad King.

*bows*

[Chad King]

Originally posted by [email protected] 6 2004, 11:33 AM
So what your saying is that you have no proof of actual decline in lifespan since the publication of The Wealth of Nations by Adam Smith aside from the ultra-"cool" and "rebelious' opinions of a dedicated keyboard marxist the messiah.

I bow to you intellect messor Chad King.

*bows*
Hey now, I didnt start the damn topic, I just noted how every 6th post is something similar to "Got any proof?"

Am I defending the messiah or anything? No. Im just slightly annoyed at how critical people here are.

[Y2A]

I'm just pointing out the facts. And also, he did not state an opinion. "Life spans are falling by the second" is not an opinion as he says it as if it is a fact when he proceeds to continue with his "I'm cool" "U.$=Evil" "Parents suck" rant.

[Chad King]

I think he more or less meant the Capitalist lifespan is getting smaller by the seconds, not actual people... yeah, if he said the peoples' lifespans were going down, I could see asking for some proof.

[Y2A]

Originally posted by Professor [email protected] 6 2004, 07:52 AM
You lot have been chanting the same mantra for 150 years.
He's not a real communist he's just a pinko.

@Chad King-Maybe your right and I misinterpreted.

[Invader Zim]

Though I haven't bothered reading Jesus's post, its true modern US capitalism will die when the US as a superpower dies, which can not be too far away.

http://www.ac.wwu.edu/~stephan/Animation/pyramid.gif

As the ratio between independant workers and dependant elderly people becomes much smaller. The amount spent on the elderly will become too high , especially as the elderly begin to live longer. The US economy will not be able to cope.

Not to mention this $7,210,718,887,247.47, the Current Us national dept. China is in the same situation as America , but with a considerbaly worse situation, but China and Europe have leant billons and billions to the US. Imagine what would happen if there was a banking crisis in China, the US economy would collapse.

http://www.publicdebt.treas.gov/opd/opdpenny.htm

Funnily enough it was The US who leant billions to European countries, and the Largest empire in History collapsed trying to pay it back.

Bye Bye US empire.

[DaCuBaN]

Funnily enough it was The US who leant billions to European countries

Britian post WW1 and then WW2 were literally bankrupted as a result of this, bringing us at the closest point to a socialist revolt this country has ever seen

[Nyder]

Originally posted by [email protected] 6 2004, 12:47 PM
Though I haven't bothered reading Jesus's post, its true modern US capitalism will die when the US as a superpower dies, which can not be too far away.

http://www.ac.wwu.edu/~stephan/Animation/pyramid.gif

As the ratio between independant workers and dependant elderly people becomes much smaller. The amount spent on the elderly will become too high , especially as the elderly begin to live longer. The US economy will not be able to cope.

Not to mention this $7,210,718,887,247.47, the Current Us national dept. China is in the same situation as America , but with a considerbaly worse situation, but China and Europe have leant billons and billions to the US. Imagine what would happen if there was a banking crisis in China, the US economy would collapse.

http://www.publicdebt.treas.gov/opd/opdpenny.htm

Funnily enough it was The US who leant billions to European countries, and the Largest empire in History collapsed trying to pay it back.

Bye Bye US empire.
This isn't a failure of capitalism it is a failure of the US Government. The economy always recovers but governments will one day meet a costly demise.

[Professor Moneybags]

I think I read something on Capitalism Magazine once that said the "Baby Boomer" ('free lunch') generation were mostly to blame for the current economic crisis. i.e. The ones that think they are "owed" a living.

[Invader Zim]

Originally posted by [email protected] 7 2004, 09:01 AM
This isn't a failure of capitalism it is a failure of the US Government. The economy always recovers but governments will one day meet a costly demise.
I would agree with you to a large extent, but the capitalist approach to government, such as taking short term profits over long term security has only gone to inflate this iminant crisis.

I disagree with your assertion that economies always recover, the british Empires most certainly did not. I doubt that the USA's will either, the world order is going to switch in our life time I do certainly hope.

[themessiah]

I'm sort of speaking about how influential and intelligent people are treated. Between being branded with non applicable mental illnessess, imprisoned falsely and ostracized, to me it is clear that the system is in complete failure. Because it is that obvious. How much fear can be forced onto the public? Especially when they are aware of the truth as it pertains to influential thinkers. They respond with the better him than me response, while they people get taken away to cheers and ovations. They are entertained by programs that function only on the mass manipulation of individuals by preying on their instincts and needs. They are cowed into submission under the command that they better enjoy it, or it might be them Or their kids. As soon as we stop being afraid and start doing something about it, the better off we all will be.

Anyway, TV is the prime example. Look at the changes in it over the last decade. Compare ads. Shows. Movies. The trend is not as startling as it is OBVIOUS. The next step is literally a retrogression into ancient times. Reality TV is one step away from including death as part of its program. Then there are those that believe that it already is. So as to pave the way for the day when the public NEEDS to be reminded once more - better him than me.

[DaCuBaN]

I think I read something on Capitalism Magazine once that said the "Baby Boomer" ('free lunch') generation were mostly to blame for the current economic crisis. i.e. The ones that think they are "owed" a living.

Well, a magazine with such a blatent bias would say that, wouldn't it :lol:
Pretty much like if you pick up the Socialist Worker in the UK - I feel ill reading that at times it's so abhorently anti-cap.

In reality, you cannot prove this assertion.

[Nyder]

Originally posted by Enigma+Jun 7 2004, 03:08 PM--> (Enigma @ Jun 7 2004, 03:08 PM)
[email protected] 7 2004, 09:01 AM
This isn't a failure of capitalism it is a failure of the US Government. The economy always recovers but governments will one day meet a costly demise.
I would agree with you to a large extent, but the capitalist approach to government, such as taking short term profits over long term security has only gone to inflate this iminant crisis.

I disagree with your assertion that economies always recover, the british Empires most certainly did not. I doubt that the USA's will either, the world order is going to switch in our life time I do certainly hope. [/b]
Economies based on slavery and subjugation usually have a limited life span. Economies based on wealth creation and free trade always prosper.

And it's mostly Governments which take the short term profits - massive borrowing and pork barrelling taxpayers funds to win an election. Most of us are still paying the price for past Government mis-management.

[Capitalist Imperial]

Originally posted by [email protected] 6 2004, 12:47 PM
Though I haven't bothered reading Jesus's post, its true modern US capitalism will die when the US as a superpower dies, which can not be too far away.

http://www.ac.wwu.edu/~stephan/Animation/pyramid.gif

As the ratio between independant workers and dependant elderly people becomes much smaller. The amount spent on the elderly will become too high , especially as the elderly begin to live longer. The US economy will not be able to cope.

Not to mention this $7,210,718,887,247.47, the Current Us national dept. China is in the same situation as America , but with a considerbaly worse situation, but China and Europe have leant billons and billions to the US. Imagine what would happen if there was a banking crisis in China, the US economy would collapse.

http://www.publicdebt.treas.gov/opd/opdpenny.htm

Funnily enough it was The US who leant billions to European countries, and the Largest empire in History collapsed trying to pay it back.

Bye Bye US empire.
Come on Enigma, get serious. We're not going anywhere soon, tiger.

GDP, military capability, world economic holdings, and technology all continue to rise in the USA.

"America will soon fall", or words to that effect, is among the most unsubstantiated, rhetorical, hollow, meaningless statements made on this board, and it is made en masse at that. It is indicative of what a bunch of pinko sheep many of you are.

What is really disappointing is that you submitted this diatribe, Enigma. I usually count you among the more reasonable, original, and logical of the leftists, and I expect more from you that this re-hashed amateur commentary based on the fallacious idea of America somehow being on the verge of collapse, when in fact the opposite is true. The USA is actually very much still growing and developing, not declining.

The only thing you need to say bye-bye to are your antiquated, oppressive dictatorial communist ideologies.

[themessiah]

there's actually a magazine called Capitalism Magazine?

who in their right mind would read it?

what is in it?

[Professor Moneybags]

Originally posted by [email protected] 8 2004, 06:54 PM
there's actually a magazine called Capitalism Magazine?


It's online. Go and look it up in google.


who in their right mind would read it?

Erm...capitalists ? Bearing in mind that they probably say exactly the same thing about this site. They have a forum too but don't post on it; ever since some gang of idiots (from here, if I recall) believed they could spam it out of existence, being a communist has been an automatic banning offence.

[DaCuBaN]

ever since some gang of idiots (from here, if I recall) believed they could spam it out of existence, being a communist has been an automatic banning offence

being a communist is... I take it in true style all socialists are tarred with the same brush? ;)

On the subject of those who decided to spam, well in my personal opinion they deserve to have their knackers removed. End of problem.

[cormacobear]

You guys are kind of dramatic. If you put "not a communist" as it's title. It's all pro capitalism. Any way you look at it it's a cool peace of poetry, or rhetoric, or something.

[Professor Moneybags]

What are you talking about ?

[themessiah]

yeah, capitalists would read it

erm, you mean, erm, the zero, erm, point zero zero zero, erm, one percent of the erm, population?

sure they would

erm

[Y2A]

The people at that capitalism magazine forum are tards. They said that I was a marxist.

It's a pretty crappy magazine anyway. The economist pwns cap mag.

[DaCuBaN]

The people at that capitalism magazine forum are tards. They said that I was a marxist.

You're kidding right? :lol: :D

I'm going to have to stick my head in over there and see how long it takes them to figure me out... ;)


You guys are kind of dramatic. If you put "not a communist" as it's title. It's all pro capitalism. Any way you look at it it's a cool peace of poetry, or rhetoric, or something

It's not that what you wrote doesn't make sense by itself... It's just I've looked through every post in this thread and still can't see what you refer to.

post in wrong thread?

[Professor Moneybags]

Originally posted by [email protected] 9 2004, 07:22 AM
yeah, capitalists would read it

erm, you mean, erm, the zero, erm, point zero zero zero, erm, one percent of the erm, population?

sure they would

erm
You're a true social metaphysician.

[DaCuBaN]

You're a true social metaphysician.

By the definition of a capitalist, only something like 1% of the population woul be capitalists. It's not someone who follows, as an example, laissez faire economics, but someone who is an owner of a means of production, of property and the like.

What I want to really know is given that, what do they actually publish?

Or is it really not a capitalist magazine, and in fact just a clone of the economist :unsure: :lol:

[themessiah]

and I'm insulted

truly

[Professor Moneybags]

Originally posted by [email protected] 9 2004, 06:42 PM

You're a true social metaphysician.

By the definition of a capitalist, only something like 1% of the population woul be capitalists. It's not someone who follows, as an example, laissez faire economics, but someone who is an owner of a means of production, of property and the like.
So in other words, I'm not a capitalist because I don't own any (what you would consider) MOP, despite the fact that I do advocate LF capitalism.

What am I then ?

[Capitalist Imperial]

Originally posted by [email protected] 9 2004, 06:42 PM

You're a true social metaphysician.

By the definition of a capitalist, only something like 1% of the population woul be capitalists. It's not someone who follows, as an example, laissez faire economics, but someone who is an owner of a means of production, of property and the like.

What I want to really know is given that, what do they actually publish?

Or is it really not a capitalist magazine, and in fact just a clone of the economist :unsure: :lol:

By the definition of a capitalist, only something like 1% of the population woul be capitalists. It's not someone who follows, as an example, laissez faire economics, but someone who is an owner of a means of production, of property and the like.

DaCuban, you are incorrect, sir.

I've addressed this several times in other threads. Go to dictionary.com (or pick up any dictionary), and look up "capitalist".

You will find that the vast majority of Americans, and every single pro-capitalist person on this board, fit at least one of the definitions of "capitalist".

[DaCuBaN]

So in other words, I'm not a capitalist because I don't own any (what you would consider) MOP, despite the fact that I do advocate LF capitalism.

What am I then ?

A capitalist sympathiser by my book. A 'wannabe' capitalist.


I've addressed this several times in other threads. Go to dictionary.com (or pick up any dictionary), and look up "capitalist".

You will find that the vast majority of Americans, and every single pro-capitalist person on this board, fit at least one of the definitions of "capitalist".

Technically I'm a capitalist then

Oh, and of course the Oxford Dictionary used to (and possibly still does - I've only got a very old copy and they charge for access to their online version) lists one of the definitions of communism as 'a totalitarian regime'

[themessiah]

since this has nothing to do with the thread I started, I should let you folk mull about discussing whatever the fuck it is your're discussing

the fact that people actually support capitalism is itself proof of their stupidity. then they actually call themselves capitalists, futhur proof of their stupidity. not even understanding what one is, let alone being in support of one.

they don't even know that they AREN'T ONE!

thats fucking hilarious

my point is self evident. it involves the stupidty inherent within a capitalist mode of production necessary for it to function. those trapped in it are necessarilly stupid, so stupid in fact that they believe themselves to be capitalists. better luck calling yourselves the kings and queens of spain. more believable.

[Osman Ghazi]

better luck calling yourselves the kings and queens of spain

Viva los Reyos Catolicos! ;)

[Invader Zim]

Originally posted by Nyder+Jun 8 2004, 10:13 AM--> (Nyder @ Jun 8 2004, 10:13 AM)
Originally posted by [email protected] 7 2004, 03:08 PM

[email protected] 7 2004, 09:01 AM
This isn't a failure of capitalism it is a failure of the US Government. The economy always recovers but governments will one day meet a costly demise.
I would agree with you to a large extent, but the capitalist approach to government, such as taking short term profits over long term security has only gone to inflate this iminant crisis.

I disagree with your assertion that economies always recover, the british Empires most certainly did not. I doubt that the USA's will either, the world order is going to switch in our life time I do certainly hope.
Economies based on slavery and subjugation usually have a limited life span. Economies based on wealth creation and free trade always prosper.

And it's mostly Governments which take the short term profits - massive borrowing and pork barrelling taxpayers funds to win an election. Most of us are still paying the price for past Government mis-management. [/b]
Economies based on slavery and subjugation usually have a limited life span.

The UK outlawed slavery long before the US did.

Economies based on wealth creation and free trade always prosper.

As no such nation exists, and ever has done, I will take your word for it, which watching the American empire crumble.

[Deathb4Dishonor]

themessiah you come off like john kerry just saying alot of that could almost be applyed to any thing and your name sort of reminds me of the book dune

[themessiah]

that old or new testament?

[Osman Ghazi]

that old or new testament? :lol: :lol:

[themessiah]

you think thats funny?

why?

did you know I was going to say that or something?

did you know I was going to say this?

did you know that I knew you knew I was going to say this?

do you think this is funny?

[STI]

Originally posted by [email protected] 14 2004, 09:59 PM
you think thats funny?

why?

did you know I was going to say that or something?

did you know I was going to say this?

did you know that I knew you knew I was going to say this?

do you think this is funny?
*Starts singing the "Freakout" song

[themessiah]

counter melody:

super freak

[Capitalist Imperial]

Originally posted by [email protected] 11 2004, 07:16 AM
since this has nothing to do with the thread I started, I should let you folk mull about discussing whatever the fuck it is your're discussing

the fact that people actually support capitalism is itself proof of their stupidity. then they actually call themselves capitalists, futhur proof of their stupidity. not even understanding what one is, let alone being in support of one.

they don't even know that they AREN'T ONE!

thats fucking hilarious

my point is self evident. it involves the stupidty inherent within a capitalist mode of production necessary for it to function. those trapped in it are necessarilly stupid, so stupid in fact that they believe themselves to be capitalists. better luck calling yourselves the kings and queens of spain. more believable.
LOL, keep posting, please, and show us all how stupid you leftists can actually be.

1) BUY YOURSELF A DICTIONARY

2) LEARN TO READ

3) LOOK UP "CAPITALIST"

4) EXPLAIN HOW WE ARE INCORRECT IN OUR DEFINITION OF CAPITALIST (OR, MORE REALISTICALLY, APOLOGIZE FOR YOUR IGNORANCE BECAUSE YOU WILL BE PROVEN 100% WRONG)

[Capitalist Imperial]

Originally posted by [email protected] 11 2004, 03:48 AM


Oh, and of course the Oxford Dictionary used to (and possibly still does - I've only got a very old copy and they charge for access to their online version) lists one of the definitions of communism as 'a totalitarian regime'
wHAT IS THE PROBLEM WITH THAT? eVERY REGIME IN HISTORY ACCEPTED BY THE WORLD AS "COMMUNIST HAS BEEN... GUESS WHAT... A "TOTALITARIAN REGIME"!!!

oops, sorry, caps were an accident

[Capitalist Imperial]

I would agree with you to a large extent, but the capitalist approach to government, such as taking short term profits over long term security has only gone to inflate this iminant crisis.

I disagree with your assertion that economies always recover, the british Empires most certainly did not. I doubt that the USA's will either, the world order is going to switch in our life time I do certainly hope.
Economies based on slavery and subjugation usually have a limited life span. Economies based on wealth creation and free trade always prosper.

And it's mostly Governments which take the short term profits - massive borrowing and pork barrelling taxpayers funds to win an election. Most of us are still paying the price for past Government mis-management. [/QUOTE]
Economies based on slavery and subjugation usually have a limited life span.

The UK outlawed slavery long before the US did.

Economies based on wealth creation and free trade always prosper.

As no such nation exists, and ever has done, I will take your word for it, which watching the American empire crumble. [/QUOTE]
As the US GDP, military, industry, infrastructure, and technolology all grow?

you'll have better luck watching paint dry

good luck with the wishful thinking, though

[DaCuBaN]

the Oxford Dictionary [...] lists one of the definitions of communism as 'a totalitarian regime'

This is unjustifiable, as it's plainly false. A totalitarian regime - a dictatorship - is not communism. The pseudo-socialist nations this world has seen in the likes of the USSR and Cuba are not, have never been and probably never will be communist.

This is old ground.... There has never been a communist society in modern history.


LOL, keep posting, please, and show us all how stupid you leftists can actually be

No more stupid than on the other side... You don't need 'brains' to choose to align yourself to one 'team' with no prior knowledge of the rules (nor the score)

CI, this is an internet message board and hence you will undoubtably get kids coming on and posting what amounts to garbage.


As the US GDP, military, industry, infrastructure, and technolology all grow?

you'll have better luck watching paint dry

Oddly, this is often one of the traits that seperates the left from the right... The latter expects things 'now' whereas the former tends to be more patient... to accept that some things, such as the fall of any empire man could build, is inevitable.

The US will not last forever CI, but I agree there is no sign of it's self destruction in the near future. I would be surprised however if it still existed in the form it is (either depreciated, appreciated or stagnated) in one hundred years. Although many purely seek the downfall of the 'big bad guy' on your side of the pond, I'm more interested in trying to educate people, like yourself as to what communism actually means so that when the US Empire finally falls it is replaced with something a little more palatable.

[themessiah]

dictionary's are for dorks

the word capitalist is distinct from the word capitalism

an idiot, or moron like you, would look at these words and think "I am living capitalism as an economic regime. So, I must be a capitalist" and that is how capitalism functions. by permitting the neverending stupidity and fascade to continue as long as possible. for if its participants EVER see it for it is, they would revolt. that quickly.

a capitalist is an entity who controls the means of production. such as the factory. in communism, ALL own the means of production. so the factory owner forces people to work in his or her factory so they don't starve to death. forces people to fight so they don't starve to death. and so on. in communism, people work in the factory so people DON'T force them to in order to eat. the fight so people DON'T force them to fight. the difference is that simple.

[themessiah]

I say distinct but do not mean seperate

in the sense that there is not a necessary connection between them

the words capitalism and capitalist

[Capitalist Imperial]

Originally posted by [email protected] 21 2004, 07:04 PM
dictionary's are for dorks


I mean, come on, this really says it all.

[Capitalist Imperial]

Originally posted by [email protected] 22 2004, 06:03 PM
I say distinct but do not mean seperate

in the sense that there is not a necessary connection between them

the words capitalism and capitalist
no connection between capitalism and capitalist, eh?

Isn't it Prozac time, cheif?

I only ask that you keep posting on behalf of leftists everywhere.

Please.

[Stapler]

Originally posted by [email protected] 22 2004, 06:03 PM
I say distinct but do not mean seperate

in the sense that there is not a necessary connection between them

the words capitalism and capitalist
Do you always talk in sing-song? it's really cool.

[Capitalist Imperial]

What we basically have here is leftist scum that are desperate enough to wither in vehement denial of the definition of both capitalism and capitalist, no matter how easily they have been proven erronous.

Commie-pukes, just capitulate on this one, the facts are easily referenceable and quite clear.

[themessiah]

stapler

you need to clarify your statement

cool, saracastic? or cool, neat?

what in all fuck is speaking in sing song