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CabalTherapy
5th June 2004, 00:53
how will communism/socialism/marxism(or whatever hawt sexy new ism is popular among us working class cubans today) facilitate the removal of hierarchy?

someone on che-lives threatened some other guy on here with starvation for not wanting to work. This happened to be the same threat i received from my walmart manager except he just refused to give me a good reference when i was fired. He fucks my girlfriend now; she broke up with me because i have no credentials besides my degree in "identity politics" from the local community college therefore no prospects at all. I live off the pity change people throw after watching me cut my scrotum on the street.

will i be treated any better than when i was working at wal-mart?

The Feral Underclass
5th June 2004, 12:31
Originally posted by [email protected] 5 2004, 02:53 AM
how will communism/socialism/marxism(or whatever hawt sexy new ism is popular among us working class cubans today) facilitate the removal of hierarchy?
Hierarchy can not just suddenly remove itself and become non-existent as the vanguardist would lead us all to believe. The only way to desytroy hierarchy is to not use it in the first place.

CabalTherapy
5th June 2004, 15:14
So communism does not care for the removal of hierarchy?

gaf
5th June 2004, 15:16
no leaders ,no chief ,no priest ,no flag......just believe in yourself.
life is .......what you are!

CabalTherapy
5th June 2004, 16:09
that was written in a fortune cookie once. it wasn't a very tasty fortune cookie.

gaf
5th June 2004, 16:33
Originally posted by [email protected] 5 2004, 04:09 PM
that was written in a fortune cookie once. it wasn't a very tasty fortune cookie.
bla,bla,bla.........poor people in this world :ph34r:

CabalTherapy
5th June 2004, 17:00
what are you blabbing about?

Mike Fakelastname
8th June 2004, 18:51
If I understand correctly, you are asking how the various factions hope to do away with the class system. I'll provide a brief explanation on each.

Socialist Method: Doesn't intend to do away with state after the revolution/great reforms. Proletariat controls major means of production through unions/soviets. State's roll would be to provide public services (hospitals, police, housing, etc.). Most socialists wish for the state to have little to no roll in the economy, in order to avoid centralization. The state's economic roll would be to enforce the "power to the majority" policy of socialist economics by regulating the minor means of production.

Communist Method: After the revolution, a socialist system would be put up with the intention of eventually dissolving the state apparatus. They believe that the state's only purpose is to enforce the class system, and once the class system vanishes during socialism, the state would serve no purpose and be disbanded.

Anarchist Method: During/right after the revolution, the state would be smashed, thus moving directly from capitalism to communism. Power would immediately be in the hands of the majority.

Dune Dx
8th June 2004, 18:56
Gaf do you believe in the individual over the community or the community over the individual?

gaf
9th June 2004, 18:19
Originally posted by Dune [email protected] 8 2004, 06:56 PM
Gaf do you believe in the individual over the community or the community over the individual?
i think out pitty difference make us as weak as strong(rich as poor)
but to got to your point i think we've got no choice but to go together as individual.that's means respect.away from cliches

and i still believe life is wat you want to see/be

Misodoctakleidist
9th June 2004, 20:38
a question from a newborn communist
I think "newborn" is the wrong word.

DaCuBaN
9th June 2004, 20:44
how will communism/socialism/marxism(or whatever hawt sexy new ism is popular among us working class cubans today) facilitate the removal of hierarchy?


someone on che-lives threatened some other guy on here with starvation for not wanting to work

That would be me, and more accurately I threatened with cessation of all privileges - not just food. No food, no healthcare, nothing. If you cannot willingly submit that the community is more important than your indiviudality, right to own property etc then I believe you are deserving of this communally imposed punishment.

There is a simple way out of it though: Accept the removal of heirarchy.

It's called a seige mentality, and if 'revolution' ever happens, it's the line I'm taking.


I think "newborn" is the wrong word.

I think communist is the wrong word ;)

gaf
9th June 2004, 21:26
Originally posted by [email protected] 5 2004, 12:53 AM
how will communism/socialism/marxism(or whatever hawt sexy new ism is popular among us working class cubans today) facilitate the removal of hierarchy?


there is no hierarchy. only what you want to see as hierarchy, is .
out of your mind those pitty ideas other superiorities.be once yourself without flags or red books,without mein kampf without all the bibles or other coran ,
just once be yourself

Edward Penishands
11th June 2004, 00:56
Originally posted by [email protected] 5 2004, 12:53 AM
how will communism/socialism/marxism(or whatever hawt sexy new ism is popular among us working class cubans today) facilitate the removal of hierarchy?

someone on che-lives threatened some other guy on here with starvation for not wanting to work. This happened to be the same threat i received from my walmart manager except he just refused to give me a good reference when i was fired. He fucks my girlfriend now; she broke up with me because i have no credentials besides my degree in "identity politics" from the local community college therefore no prospects at all. I live off the pity change people throw after watching me cut my scrotum on the street.

will i be treated any better than when i was working at wal-mart?
You need to read Lenin's State and Revolution. That's all!