to rich suburban kids

[Raisa]

I've noticed occaisonally you've been getting put on the spot by people who think it so matters what class your parents are.

This goes out to all the "rich suburban kids" that are reading this message:

I for one apprieciate that you care about a struggle that has encompassed many of our lives. The fact that people who have the opportunity to turn away from the struggle of the working classes and persue their own sole pleasures, would instead look it right in the face and show solidarity to the worlds working people means more to me then you will ever know. I aprieciate that and it gives me a positive attitude towards the world that there are people like yourself, who have the opportunity to live in ignorance, but would rather pay attention.
Never stop being that way! And dont let no one give you no crap!


Solidarity,
Raisa.

[Y2A]

How sweet.

[apathy maybe]

This is quite a good point. You don't have to be the child of a worker (low income) to be left-wing. It doesn't matter what your parents income is, if you can walk into a slum and walk out again without feeling disgust at the economic system that puts people in there, then you really should shoot yourself for having no heart. If you come out and aren't converted to the left-wing (if you weren't already) then I really pity you. If you see on TV the images of starving children in Africa (those ads asking for money), and you don't stop to think why those children are starving, then you should.

And for those rightists who are going to claim that it is the people who live in the slum's fault, and that it is the corrupt dictatorships in the African countries. You wrong. Initially it maybe the government in those countries, but ultimatly it is Western Countries and Capitalism that is at fault. And the people living in the slum, what if they were born there? Didn't recieve an education beyond grade 6, can't be emplyed 'cause all the unskilled jobs are taken or being replaced by machines. Is it their fault that they are in the slum still? Or maybe their parent's? Or maybe capitalism.

[Hiero]

You shouldn't of put that in here.

[apathy maybe]

This is a could place to put it, here the rightists will read it. (And you posted that either milli-seconds after I did, or when someone opens fast-reply it places a hold on a spot.)

[Fidelbrand]

Good one, Raisa.

[Hate Is Art]

Hey Y2A what with all the Polish quotes in your signiture?

[h&s]

This is quite a good point. You don't have to be the child of a worker (low income) to be left-wing. It doesn't matter what your parents income is, if you can walk into a slum and walk out again without feeling disgust at the economic system that puts people in there, then you really should shoot yourself for having no heart. If you come out and aren't converted to the left-wing (if you weren't already) then I really pity you. If you see on TV the images of starving children in Africa (those ads asking for money), and you don't stop to think why those children are starving, then you should.

And for those rightists who are going to claim that it is the people who live in the slum's fault, and that it is the corrupt dictatorships in the African countries. You wrong. Initially it maybe the government in those countries, but ultimatly it is Western Countries and Capitalism that is at fault. And the people living in the slum, what if they were born there? Didn't recieve an education beyond grade 6, can't be emplyed 'cause all the unskilled jobs are taken or being replaced by machines. Is it their fault that they are in the slum still? Or maybe their parent's? Or maybe capitalism.


This has to be one of the best passages on the lefist cause I have ever read.
Thanks mate, this sums up what I think perfectly!

[SittingBull47]

nice raisa. Anybody can have the compassion, you don't need to be poor. I agree with you.

[lucid]

Originally posted by [email protected] 4 2004, 01:30 AM
I've noticed occaisonally you've been getting put on the spot by people who think it so matters what class your parents are.

This goes out to all the "rich suburban kids" that are reading this message:

I for one apprieciate that you care about a struggle that has encompassed many of our lives. The fact that people who have the opportunity to turn away from the struggle of the working classes and persue their own sole pleasures, would instead look it right in the face and show solidarity to the worlds working people means more to me then you will ever know. I aprieciate that and it gives me a positive attitude towards the world that there are people like yourself, who have the opportunity to live in ignorance, but would rather pay attention.
Never stop being that way! And dont let no one give you no crap!


Solidarity,
Raisa.
Just forget about all of the hypocrisy. It doesn't matter that your sitting in a house that would be considered a palace to most people in the world. It also doesn't matter that your computer cost more than a lot of people in other countries make all year. Just think about how good you have it! Not only can you enjoy the lavish lifestyle your parents provide but you can also attack the institution that makes it possible. Ever heard "don't bite the hand that feeds you.".

My uncle was a communist. He was also gay and held numerous degrees. Spoke over ten languages and was a college professor before being kicked out for leading protests during vietnam. Even though I had little in common with my uncle we were very close. He did not like capitalism and actually practiced what he preached. Even though he held several advanced degrees he ran an art gallery and wrote play reviews for a local newspaper (A few years before he died he quit his job at the newspaper because they tried forcing him to use a computer. They got him back by hiring a typist that would input his type written text into a computer.). He also would borrow a car from friends if he ever needed it. He never had a TV and I don't remember him ever watching one somewhere else. My point is that he actually lived the life he believed in and I respected him a lot for it. He didn't moan and groan about capitalism and then run out to taco bell for a super sized kids meal.

Keyboard commies that still live with mommy and daddy can't say shit about our society because you don't know anything about it. Wait until you get off your moms tit and actually go out and make your own living. If you do become successful maybe you will see how obsurd communism is.

[Y2A]

Originally posted by Digital [email protected] 4 2004, 11:30 AM
Hey Y2A what with all the Polish quotes in your signiture?
It's called satire.

Y2A>Swift

[cormacobear]

Originally posted by [email protected] 4 2004, 02:00 PM
[QUOTE=Raisa,Jun 4 2004, 01:30 AM]
Keyboard commies that still live with mommy and daddy can't say shit about our society because you don't know anything about it. Wait until you get off your moms tit and actually go out and make your own living. If you do become successful maybe you will see how obsurd communism is.


and What about those of us who are married working taxpaying members of society. Communism doesn't seem upsurd at all to me.

And at least what succsesses I've had served me as an everpresent reminder of my debt to society, and those that have worked to make the world a better place for everyone. Rather than those who worked only for the success.

[New Tolerance]

Keyboard commies that still live with mommy and daddy can't say shit about our society because you don't know anything about it. Wait until you get off your moms tit and actually go out and make your own living. If you do become successful maybe you will see how obsurd communism is.

You are right, I shall now forget about communism, and become a racist nationalist... would you like me to?

[DaCuBaN]

Keyboard commies that still live with mommy and daddy can't say shit about our society because you don't know anything about it. Wait until you get off your moms tit and actually go out and make your own living. If you do become successful maybe you will see how obsurd communism is

Y'know, this is possibly the most insightful thing I've ever seen you post. Good Job :)

It is totally absurd that someone who does not in effect participate in society should comment upon it. Most who arrive here at a young age merely think they hold political views, and have them molded by their interactions in places such as these, or in any other type of forum.

Perhaps these 'keyboard commies' are not real commies at all. Does this mean we should not treat them like all other beings... with respect ?

[Y2A]

Originally posted by [email protected] 5 2004, 01:26 AM
Perhaps these 'keyboard commies' are not real commies at all. Does this mean we should not treat them like all other beings... with respect ?
If they show respect then I give respect. I try to avoid arguments with posters that call me "evil" and other such ludicruous things.

[synthesis]

Originally posted by Y2A+Jun 4 2004, 01:35 PM--> (Y2A @ Jun 4 2004, 01:35 PM)
Digital [email protected] 4 2004, 11:30 AM
Hey Y2A what with all the Polish quotes in your signiture?
It's called satire.

Y2A>Swift [/b]
That is pretty clever, now that I think about it.

[Y2A]

Originally posted by DyerMaker+Jun 5 2004, 08:42 PM--> (DyerMaker @ Jun 5 2004, 08:42 PM)
Originally posted by [email protected] 4 2004, 01:35 PM

Digital [email protected] 4 2004, 11:30 AM
Hey Y2A what with all the Polish quotes in your signiture?
It's called satire.

Y2A>Swift
That is pretty clever, now that I think about it. [/b]
See, Dyermaker get's it.....and agrees that I am better then Swift.

<----Shits on "A Modest Proposal"

[Guerilla22]

great post, thanks

[Chad King]

I agree Raisa, just because a child is born under a family that happens to have money, that doesnt necessarily mean the child will be a Capitalist from day one. I was born underneath a moderately wealthy family and found it disgusting and left, ever since then, Ive been on and off living in my car driving around the country to read poetry to get money to move on. My mother is also heavily into drugs, but that doesnt make me a drug user for the fact I am her son.

Besides, who else would be able to understand Communism/Socialism more than a suburbanite, I mean, big city kids are far more capitalist than suburban kids, and kids growing up in the country could care less about idealism.

[Guerilla22]

Originally posted by lucid+Jun 4 2004, 02:00 PM--> (lucid @ Jun 4 2004, 02:00 PM)
[email protected] 4 2004, 01:30 AM
I&#39;ve noticed occaisonally you&#39;ve been getting put on the spot by people who think it so matters what class your parents are.

This goes out to all the "rich suburban kids" that are reading this message:

I for one apprieciate that you care about a struggle that has encompassed many of our lives. The fact that people who have the opportunity to turn away from the struggle of the working classes and persue their own sole pleasures, would instead look it right in the face and show solidarity to the worlds working people means more to me then you will ever know. I aprieciate that and it gives me a positive attitude towards the world that there are people like yourself, who have the opportunity to live in ignorance, but would rather pay attention.
Never stop being that way&#33; And dont let no one give you no crap&#33;


Solidarity,
Raisa.
Just forget about all of the hypocrisy. It doesn&#39;t matter that your sitting in a house that would be considered a palace to most people in the world. It also doesn&#39;t matter that your computer cost more than a lot of people in other countries make all year. Just think about how good you have it&#33; Not only can you enjoy the lavish lifestyle your parents provide but you can also attack the institution that makes it possible. Ever heard "don&#39;t bite the hand that feeds you.".

My uncle was a communist. He was also gay and held numerous degrees. Spoke over ten languages and was a college professor before being kicked out for leading protests during vietnam. Even though I had little in common with my uncle we were very close. He did not like capitalism and actually practiced what he preached. Even though he held several advanced degrees he ran an art gallery and wrote play reviews for a local newspaper (A few years before he died he quit his job at the newspaper because they tried forcing him to use a computer. They got him back by hiring a typist that would input his type written text into a computer.). He also would borrow a car from friends if he ever needed it. He never had a TV and I don&#39;t remember him ever watching one somewhere else. My point is that he actually lived the life he believed in and I respected him a lot for it. He didn&#39;t moan and groan about capitalism and then run out to taco bell for a super sized kids meal.

Keyboard commies that still live with mommy and daddy can&#39;t say shit about our society because you don&#39;t know anything about it. Wait until you get off your moms tit and actually go out and make your own living. If you do become successful maybe you will see how obsurd communism is. [/b]
I hate to break it to you, but you may be be out on your own, but you&#39;ve enjoyed all the advatages that American society has to offer. You had a chance at an education you&#39;ve never had any trouble finding the adequate resources to live. You wanna talk about someone being on someone&#39;s tit. Try living in a third world country. You know nothing about having to make it.

[DaCuBaN]

kids growing up in the country could care less about idealism

Hey&#33;

I grew up in rural scotland, and I give a damn
Take that back you bastard :lol: ;)

[Anarchist Freedom]

by definition im bourgesis and im not going to frown upon it.kids say to me hey zach how can you be a communist if your not poor. i say i dont choose my parents income soo i cant say a thing about that i just support what i know is right for mankind.


:che:


CGLM&#33; (http://www.cglm.net)

[Chad King]

Originally posted by Socialist [email protected] 7 2004, 01:16 AM
i dont choose my parents income soo i cant say a thing about that i just support what i know is right for mankind.

Amen to that&#33; Its about looking ahead and not backwards&#33;