after Castro - what will become of cuba?

[UneducatedSocialist]

We all know that good ol' Castro is getting up there. That is why I think it is time we ask ourselves "How will cuba be after his death?" "who will take over" and "will cuba still be communist or will the U.S. bully the new leader into ending its communist ways?"

What do you all think?

[sabre]

first off cuba isnt communist, but i think that the U.S. will try to intervene but with the amount that the cubans hate the U.S. will get in their way

[ZaPaTiStA SoCiAlIsTa]

Isnt Raul, castros brother, the second in command? He faught along side of Castro and Che, although he disliked Che. I think Raul will take Castos place.

[CheGuevara]

I think Raul is the officially designated successor, but I'm not sure. I talked to a Cuban who came to our school once(not a gusano, but someone from Cuba just visiting) and she said the people like Raul, but that he really doesn't have the same support of the people as he's more of a military man.

I thought Che and Raul liked each other, both being communists. I can't remember though, I read that bigass Che biography a while ago.

[guerrillaradio]

Yeah, Raul's only like a couple of years younger though so who after him??

[PunkRawker677]

raul and che were friends before castro and che were friends.. che taught raul french.. i believe they remained friends..

[amnesiac]

Small chance some communist leader will take over after Raul's death. I think this bastard Bush will send his troops at every cost, to make Cuba a capitalist country. The old Batista-days will come back and the gap between poor civilians and rich US investors will grow...
It's sad, but face the facts, the US are powerful and want the world to become one big market, so they can exploit poor people more and manipulate the economy.

[Natalenko]

lol, after castro? well, thats assuming you mean the family, after Fidel, will come Raul, then you guys seem to think that its over, well the UJC (translates sorta to Young Cuban Communist Leage) they make up 10% or 1 million people of Cuba, they will work with the Cuban Communist Party (5% or .5million people) to (nationally!) elect a new leader, which will be strongly communist/socialist) %15 of the cuban people are IN the government and 85% support it (including the ones in it, so 15% oppose it), so there will no doubt be a continuous revolution in Cuba for some time.

What the CIA and anti-castro forces dont realise is that killing some one isnt going to impact enourmously on the revolution in succeeding to stop it, it will only grow stronger (i.e : Che).

You can feel it in these quotes "You can kill a revolutionary, but you will never kill the revolution" and Che's last words "I know you're here to kill me, go on coward, shoot, you are only going to kill a man".

(Edited by Natalenko at 10:22 am on Mar. 24, 2002)

[BOZG]

Ok, at the lecture in Dublin by Aledia Guevara someone asked who would come to power if Fidel died. Immediately after his death Raul becomes leader and shortly afterwards elections would be held to elect the new leader. But Sergio ??? (the other speaker) said in the last election (non presidential one) Raul got 99% of the vote so it looks as if Raul would stay in power.

[MJM]

Raul and Che were friends as far as I know. They were the two biggest commie influences on Fidel.

[Optimus Prime]

Yeah Raul and Che were very good friends from what I've read. Was his best man at his wedding

[ZaPaTiStA SoCiAlIsTa]

well, yea, im probably wrong. Its what i heard but prob. not true.

[Commisar BOB]

Cuba poses no real threat now to America. America even has an airbase there. When Castro dies i think that America will push to a non communist democratic government, that is America's friend, much like West Germany was after ww2.

[Angie]

All I know is that I hope Castro lives a decent amount longer, dies in peace and is buried in Che's guerrilla mausoleum.

He's also intelligent enough a man to have been working on getting his predecessor(s) ready for a long time now. What with all the attempts on his life, etc.

[Reuben]

He says that he would ike to step aside and let somebody else take power before he dies

[sabre]

for the zillionth time cuba isnt communist

[Anonymous]

how isnt it commy sabre if u dont mind me asking

[CheGuevara]

Almost all communists agree that a communist society has no currency, at least as is related to wage labor. Cuba does not meet this commonly agreed upon criteria.

[change]

well che will live for ever, as for castro only black Cubans will remember him and intellecuals will still remember him but point out his short fall(a lot of them) I know Cuba will prosper so will Che's name. I see a hollywood movie about che do you


cheers

change

Take the mistakes as love

[Supermodel]

There's no reason to doubt that the Cuban people will choose their own governement after Fidel, and after Raul.

Anyhow it seems Fidel has enough ligtimate and illegitimate offspring to keep the dynasty going long after all of us....

[Kez]

When Fidel dies, he will rise up, then once resurected, be on earth for 40 days, then ........

comrade kamo

[Moskitto]

Kamo, Pentacost is 50 days after Easter, not 40 days, that's Lent.

[flames of the flag]

From what i know the cuban people really dig their communsist or "communist" (to keep some people happy) system so after fidel and Raul are dead another leader will surely rise to power quicker than the americans can move out of their airbase
-flames

[Natalenko]

Raul is known to be even more revolutionary than Fidel, so i very much doubt that he will let america take over, but lets hope he does change things... and if Cuba is no threat to the USA, then why the embargo? if there was no sanctions, then im sure cuba could thrive as a growing socialist nation, BUT remember that in "commuinsim", money is only abolished when the world is a communist planet! (whens that gonna happen?) SO, for one country to survive, they need trading and tourism, and for that, the people need money, but not to have any real social value, but only the value of capital, which is made for the continueous development of real valuables, such as product, education and medical treatment. Lets just hope, that when the UN completely cuts the sanctions, Cuba will be in a right state to fix all that up.

[WUOrevolt]

When Castro dies Raul will take power in Cuba. But at the same time american imperialist soldiers stationed in Guantamano Bay will try to take powere from Raul Castro.

[Palmares]

Technically I don't think Cuba is communist, but perhaps it could be said that it is socialist. That is, it actually has a government, and currency (like someone mentioned before) among other things.

Concerning the 'heir' to the Cuban leadership. No offence, but I would not want it to be Raul. Not that he is bad, or the matter, just that he is old and him taking control almost seems like hereditary rule (e.g. the DPRK, though Kim Ill Sung was a good leader).
I have also heard that his sons are a possibility. I am against this for the same reason. I think the best thing is to have a elected leader after say, a month or something (that is, a month after Fidel's death). For that time Raul can have temporary control.

But hey, if Raul or Fidel's sons are elected, I'm all for it!

:biggrin:

[Soul Rebel]

From what i heard down there- fidel has look alikes, so there is a good chance that we wont know when he really dies, which i hope he never does :) but anyways, if he has look alikes, it'll be quite awhile.

[Nick Yves]

Quote: from CheGuevara on 4:28 am on Mar. 25, 2002
Almost all communists agree that a communist society has no currency, at least as is related to wage labor. Cuba does not meet this commonly agreed upon criteria.


NO THEY DONT.

THAT IS THE STUPIDEST IDEA I HAVE EVER READ. God, hate hearing that. Can you imagine trying to explain communism to someone if that were true? ''Um. There is no money...'' ....
If you 'communists' are going to say that about communism, then form your own political party. While it sounds like a good thing, a country with enough moral values to not need currency is well over 500 years away...I mean shit, people are still saying that Communism itself is a hard thing to achieve. THAT idea is a whole other story....

[Kapitan Andrey]

...Raul after Fidel...
...yankee after Raul...

NEW CHE AFTER yankee!!!

[lacha]

He He He.....

Yes, Raul is next in line......If Fidel dies first. And yes he would win first elections.

Raul is loved by the people and respected by the party. He is a very pragmatic and smart man. He may not have the charisma of Fidel, But he is a damn good leader and a true man of the people. Many folks know him personally throughout the island as he works very closely with them on various projects.

But there is someone else being polished up for the figure head position. And I know who... and I ain't tellin'.... and you guys haven't even thought of it yet.

I wish it were going to be Juan Almeida. I think he would be a great choice. But he is nearly as old as those guys so......

As for an invasion at Fidel's death... I think that is a possibility. If nothing else an invasion by Gusanos. I think that the CUban people will kick their ass. I for one will join the defence.

I think the gusanos may be shallow enough to think that the Revolution somehow lives and dies with Fidel. They are in for a big surprise.

[sypher]

Quote: from lacha on 4:03 am on May 23, 2003

But there is someone else being polished up for the figure head position. And I know who... and I ain't tellin'.... and you guys haven't even thought of it yet.


If you do indeed know than what do you gain by keeping your knowledge to yourself?


But, I believe we are underestimating the U.S. and Bush. This is the man who put Cuba on the "Axis of Evil." The U.S. has been knowen to rig elections aswell. I'd hate to see it all go away but, I doubt the Cuban revolution will live after Castro.

[WUOrevolt]

ZaPaTiStA SoCiAlIsTa Raul was the one who introduced che to Fidel. He will take power after fidel dies.

[guevara59]

Raul Castro was the most commited supporter of Stalin! Should someone like this really be carged with continueing the revolution, even if he is Fiedel's brother

[jjack]

Che was a stalinist, too. In any event, it's not up to any of us who aren't Cuban.