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Valkyrie
3rd June 2004, 23:35
http://www.miami.com/mld/miamiherald/8830400.htm

Commie Girl
4th June 2004, 03:13
:angry:

fuerzasocialista
4th June 2004, 03:38
This is fuckin bullshit. Let them have there recall and when they lose they could all fuck off :angry:

Maynard
4th June 2004, 03:45
It is somewhat bad news but I think in a way, it has the potential to be good news. The country is in a limbo now and I think, for the left, either outcome could potentially bring some benefits. The CIA of course, has been funding the opponents and will continue to do so, there will be a blitz of propaganda just before the recall about how he is Castro the second. Vote tampering may well occur but if Chavez wins, it'll just weaken the opposition arguments about him being undemocratic, if he loses. I think the poor there, the majority of whom support Chavez will participate in a full scale rebellion.
I heard there is still some conjecture about some of the signatures but we can only hope that the majority of Venezuela, the poor , get the representative who they believe is best for them.

pandora
4th June 2004, 03:50
There is great darkness in this Hugo Chavez is a light in the darkness, they tried one coup d'etat now they are trying another.
Geez, if that's all it takes I'd gladly gather a few million signatures to get Bush out of office, of course that only works in VENEZULA and California.
The thing that is so perverse is that our corporations run all the media so they brainwash people to vote stupid, even worse than here.
Fortunately people seem to be smarter there in standing up for their rights.
I'm sure the media is having a field day with the burning trucks.
I understand their anger and their pain at such ridiculousness

kingbee
5th June 2004, 17:04
as chavez said, its better that the opposition is democratic, and not violent.

Louis Pio
5th June 2004, 17:07
as chavez said, its better that the opposition is democratic, and not violent.


They will use violence nomatter what. To let the recall referendum go through is a mistake, the opposition will use every oppotunity to destabalise the country even more. And while this is going on the anger of the masses is growing because nothing has been done against the violent opposition and coupmakers.

Guerilla22
5th June 2004, 23:52
So I guess this recall vote already happened this week, however due to some complications they are going to due the whole thing over again. I'm not exactly sure, why, or what this means, but at any rate my support goes out to Chavez, one of the only world leaders brave enough to stand up to the IMF/WTO and the United States.

FatFreeMilk
6th June 2004, 01:43
This is like the news I was hoping the world would never hear! So what's gonna be the future for venezuela?! I wonder what Genaro's up to now...

Lacrimi de Chiciură
6th June 2004, 07:42
Excitang.

Rubble Of War
6th June 2004, 09:05
The U$ is determend to drive Venezuela to civil war :angry:

RED CHARO
6th June 2004, 15:49
The article didn't seam to mention all of the fake Id's captured at the opposition's head quaters, or the 250 Colombian paramilitarys caught on a CEO's ranch, both during this re-call election!
I know the article is short, but there was plenty of circumstances during this re-call!

FatFreeMilk
7th June 2004, 05:20
I read today that if he is defeated, he would be replaced by VP Jose Vicente Rangel, a Chavez "ally". Does anybody know anything about this fellow? I don't.

Kez
7th June 2004, 07:33
Charo, the article was written by the Miami thugs, u expect them to give u the truth?

FFM,can u paste that article here?

refuse_resist
7th June 2004, 07:47
Originally posted by Rubble Of [email protected] 6 2004, 09:05 AM
The U$ is determend to drive Venezuela to civil war :angry:
Yeah, pretty much. They'll try anything they can, whether it be Bush or Kerry who's in office. Kerry himself has said many times that Bush is too soft on Venezuela and Cuba, and has also called for an increase over military personnel and wants to send more soldiers into Iraq. He's just as much of a war monger as Bush.

FatFreeMilk
7th June 2004, 20:44
I read it in the newspaper (The Press Enterprise) here's the scan...The important part is in the last paragraph...


I did a lil research on Jose Vicente Rangel:
"The choice of Rangel, a lifelong anti-American Marxist who admires Fidel Castro and is despised widely within the Venezuelan armed forces, may be Chavez's greatest political mistake since launching his Bolivarian revolution in 1998. "

look under "Foreseeing Trouble With Colombia and the U.S."
http://abcnews.go.com/sections/world/Daily...tfor010209.html (http://abcnews.go.com/sections/world/DailyNews/stratfor010209.html)
so maybe he is a good guy?

redbhoy59
8th June 2004, 00:42
Also the US is overseeing the build up of Colombian troops on the Venezuelan border and the right-wing paramilitary incursions across the border. I belive this is not only to try to scare Chavez but possibly to spark a border war if the referendum does not go favorably to US interests. This would give the US an excuse to send the OAS after Chavez as well.

But on the up side though, the Colombian military is weary of this plan because if a war breaks out and Colombia has to dedicate more resources to the Venezualan border then the FARC may, by many accounts, be in a possition to strike Bogota. So a nice fued between Uribe and his generals can be very beneficial to ,many on the left.

Things are definately heating up down there.