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ok i am new to all this, so u cubans out there are happy with the state of your government? i mean i know this is a commie site in all, but did che support for the type of govt. cuban is now?
According to a 1994 Gallop poll, 88% of Cubans said they were "proud to be Cuban". 58% said "the revolutions successes outstrip its failures". 69% considered themselves "revolutionaries" (though only 21% "socialist" or "communist"), 76% claimed to be "satisfied with their personal life", and 3% said "political problems" were the "key problems facing the country"
Hope that helps.
shit i guess i have been brainwashed by American media once again. I always pictured an unhappy cuban.
Heh, it happened to all of us. Feel not shame for the fact that you were decieved. Feel pride that you now know that you were decieved, and that you now know the truth.
Kurai Tsuki
3rd June 2004, 01:53
Eh, another brainwashed American, nothing new to see :P just kidding :D
So had you read anything about Che before joining this forum?
actually i was at school and someone in my class was on these forums and ive heard of che and seen his pic on shirts. so i asked him and he told me a little bit.
Maynard
3rd June 2004, 02:51
Che would have been somewhat scathing of the way the government is run in Cuba where it deserved it. Just as he did when he was a part of that government, he made many critical speeches.
I'm sure most Cubans would like living standards to be higher for all of them, no one can play them for that but it's wrong in my mind, to see Capitalism as providing that.
There are many problems in Cuba and facing Cuba, it faces many problems and is surviving under extraordinary circumstances. We can only hope that the revolution evolves and progresses beyond Fidel's death.
Hiero
3rd June 2004, 02:59
Dont call yourself a newb this isnt computer games were talking about.
why?
Che was more authoratarian than Fidel.
Hate Is Art
3rd June 2004, 15:24
Che wasn't a politician, he was a guerilla and a doctor. I couldn't see him running the country.
MiniOswald
3rd June 2004, 16:41
he may not have been a politician but he was one of the main players in the process of the cuban missle crises
Colombia
3rd June 2004, 18:38
Originally posted by
[email protected] 2 2004, 11:23 PM
According to a 1994 Gallop poll, 88% of Cubans said they were "proud to be Cuban". 58% said "the revolutions successes outstrip its failures". 69% considered themselves "revolutionaries" (though only 21% "socialist" or "communist"), 76% claimed to be "satisfied with their personal life", and 3% said "political problems" were the "key problems facing the country"
Hope that helps.
Can you give us a percentage which equals 100% please?
Originally posted by comrade
[email protected] 3 2004, 02:59 AM
Dont call yourself a newb this isnt computer games were talking about.
sorry i didnt know what kind of lingo to expect from u guys...i usually dont talk like a gamer or hacker or whatever.
Originally posted by Colombia+Jun 3 2004, 06:38 PM--> (Colombia @ Jun 3 2004, 06:38 PM)
[email protected] 2 2004, 11:23 PM
According to a 1994 Gallop poll, 88% of Cubans said they were "proud to be Cuban". 58% said "the revolutions successes outstrip its failures". 69% considered themselves "revolutionaries" (though only 21% "socialist" or "communist"), 76% claimed to be "satisfied with their personal life", and 3% said "political problems" were the "key problems facing the country"
Hope that helps.
Can you give us a percentage which equals 100% please? [/b]
What?
88% of Cubans were "proud to be Cuban". It follows (without saying, or so i thought), that 12% "are not proud to be Cuban". Each figure is independant of the others.
Kurai Tsuki
4th June 2004, 15:59
Originally posted by Digital
[email protected] 3 2004, 03:24 PM
Che wasn't a politician, he was a guerilla and a doctor. I couldn't see him running the country.
Che was the "Presidente Banco National" in Cuba and later became the Minister of Industry, I thought he was very good at helping to run a country.
Biggoggs
4th June 2004, 18:51
`` 58% said "the revolutions successes outstrip its failures" ''
42% Of cubans thought revolutions did more harm than good?
I don't want to sound biased, but being proud to be Cuban, and being happy with your political system could be interpereted as two different things...
`` 3% said "political problems" were the "key problems facing the country" ''
What were the main problems facing the country?
Cheers
Knowledge 6 6 6
5th June 2004, 02:49
Of all the ppl that I know who've been to Cuba, they all say that the ppl do not live very well...
Fact - Cubans cannot enter into a hotel for tourists even if they have sufficient funds.
Don't get me wrong, I'm not saying that Cubans do not like their living conditions, I'm just saying what I have heard from many people that have been there...
Also, Fidel may be a communist or whatever, but he doesnt show it. This guy lives way better than many ppl in his own country...in fact, probably better then the majority. If he really believed in communism, he'd live like the majority of his society does, but he doesnt. Watch the film 'Commandante', and see what kinda lifestyle this guy lives.
Fighting against american imperialism is always good...but I just dont see how he can live so great while many in cuba do not share the same fate. It's not socialism anymore, its dictatorial rule...something I do not advise as the alternative for capitalism. lol.
`` 58% said "the revolutions successes outstrip its failures" ''
42% Of cubans thought revolutions did more harm than good?
There was probably a "no response" option and response basically saying that "it's neutral".
I don't want to sound biased, but being proud to be Cuban, and being happy with your political system could be interpereted as two different things...
Very true. Without the rest of the data, the statistic would be basically meaningless.
`` 3% said "political problems" were the "key problems facing the country" ''
What were the main problems facing the country?
Damned if I know. I would speculate something to the effect of "The fucking embargo".
Fact - Cubans cannot enter into a hotel for tourists even if they have sufficient funds
True. Cuba is anything but a Utopia. There are MANY things wrong, but that doesn't mean it's the hell we're told it is.
Also, Fidel may be a communist or whatever, but he doesnt show it. This guy lives way better than many ppl in his own country...in fact, probably better then the majority. If he really believed in communism, he'd live like the majority of his society does, but he doesnt. Watch the film 'Commandante', and see what kinda lifestyle this guy lives.
Again, Fidel is no "wonder-leader". He has his shortcomings. I don't even "Like" him as a "communist", but rather as an anti-imperialist.
Fighting against american imperialism is always good...but I just dont see how he can live so great while many in cuba do not share the same fate. It's not socialism anymore, its dictatorial rule...something I do not advise as the alternative for capitalism. lol.
See above.
Pawn Power
7th June 2004, 19:47
are their any cuban's that live in cuba on this site? :cuba: I am interested in what they have to say. :huh:
Arnhem
13th June 2004, 22:57
Watch the film 'Commandante', and see what kinda lifestyle this guy lives.
Yes, but that was by far the worst documentary I've ever seen. It was more then obvious that the maker was not aware of what Che stood for.
He just read some books quickly and then decided to make a movie. I was so disappointed. I was looking forward to see it, but when I did I could not conclude anyless then that it was pure shit!
Roses in the Hospital
14th June 2004, 13:03
Also, Fidel may be a communist or whatever, but he doesnt show it. This guy lives way better than many ppl in his own country...in fact, probably better then the majority. If he really believed in communism, he'd live like the majority of his society does, but he doesnt. Watch the film 'Commandante', and see what kinda lifestyle this guy lives.
I'm not trying to defend everything about Castro here but you've got to remember that the CIA have been gunning for Castro for years which is at least a partial excuse for him having several secluded residencies - nobody at any one time could know where he was. Also, and this is going to sound incredibly un-communist of me, Castro is more important than the average Cuban, the healthier he is and the longer he lives the more trouble he'll cause to the US and the more of inspiration he'll be to new generations of Cubans...
Like I say this dosen't excuse him totally.
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