FREEDOM

[Pawn Power]

ok here it is my final for my public speaking class. I have to do a speech on an obscure topic and one of the choices was freedom, so thats what i am doing.

Any ideas would be appritiated and i also need to include quotes, so if you have any good one post them up!

thanks

[MrGunRights]

I've got one.

Extremism in the defense of liberty is no vice. And moderation in the pursuit of justice is no virtue. -Barry Goldwater

Good luck on that paper about freedom.

[Rasta Sapian]

I would watch the film Bravehart, I love that movie, and it may inspire you to find the words to rise up agianst impirialism!

Freedom is natural human nature, and the will of mankind to be free!

FRRRRRRRRREEEEEEEEEEEDDDDDDDOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOMMMM :o

[DaCuBaN]

William Wallace was an authoritarian, and supported the man with the biggest claim to the throne of the country - Robert the Bruce.

He's an incredibly bad role model.

[cubist]

maybe so but he represents revolution of the fuedal times, robert the bruce, or Long shanks which was worse,

Che is obviously a contraversal freedom fighter to do a piece on,

another one you could use, for wanting freedom from political oppression of government, is michael collins, again not really ideal but he was an honest fighter for freedom in ireland and has a fascinating history,

Martin luther King again a fighter with morals but ideologically not good

[DaCuBaN]

robert the bruce, or Long shanks which was worse

Arguably neither :rolleyes: :lol:

Both were unmoralistic self-serving bastards... One said he was english and deserved to rule the world, the other said he was scottish and had the same goal.

William Wallace may have been moralistic, but he's certainly been proved to be fighting the wrong battle. Arguably the same can be said for some of the other names you mentioned.

I would say the safe bet would be Nelson Mandela(sp?)

[Don't Change Your Name]

Originally posted by [email protected] 30 2004, 08:52 AM
William Wallace was an authoritarian, and supported the man with the biggest claim to the throne of the country - Robert the Bruce.

He's an incredibly bad role model.
Yeah, but there wasn't such a thing as "socialism" then...

Concerning the topic, it seems everyone has a different definition of freedom. For some it mught be the "freedom to kill and exploit", for others "freedom of speech", for others "freedom to own a business", for fascists "freedom for our leaders to rule our nation", for others its just "absence of coercion", for tohers "absense of authority", etc.

[MrGunRights]

Agreed, my version of freedom is freedom from the point of a gun. Most here would probably say that freedom is only acheived by pointing a gun.

[Pawn Power]

Good luck on that paper about freedom.
its not a paper its a speech
thanks for the quote

everyone stop talknig about william wallace and robert the bruce and start talking about FREEDOM and give me some good quotes on freedom!
thanks :lol:

[pandora]

John Stuart Mills and Thomas Paine

[gaf]

freedom only existe when a person is aware of himself and is able to make choices(if you have/see them).

[Pawn Power]

come on people you can give me more insight into the subject of freedom then that!!!
good quotes will also be taken in helpfully.

thanks

[Rasta Sapian]

"FFFFFFFFFRRRRRRREEEEEEEEEEEEEDDDDDDDDDDDOOOOOOOOOO OMMMMMM"

Mel Gibson aka William Wallace

:) The word and the quote are self expanitory, to add other words to it would
simply be restictive and henseforth, not free

just get up there in front of your class of assembly and yell to the top of your lungs bro :o

peace yall

[Palmares]

When you speak of 'freedom', I presume you mean this in the context of 'civil rights' or similar.

From that, a good place to go with your speech would be to mention civil rights movements. Gandhi here, Mandela there, etc. What is the aim of this speech though? What bias does it attempt to achieve? Will it say we lack freedom, or that we have more than we realise? Simply to say, "I am doing a speech of freedom" is not nearly enough information to give a straight forward answer.

Maybe (just maybe), you could say that we have always fought to attain more freedom (examples would be the civil rights movements, and even things back to the great Spartacus). Maybe you could talk about clashes in 'civil rights', such as abortion (i.e. right to choose vs right to life).

Is this any help? I'm too tired (and lazy) to say more.

My quote on freedom is "If this is freedom, then freedom is in chains." By me. I can't think of any famous ones right now. I know! At the end of the speech you could say "Freedom is a right, not a privilege."

Good luck.

[Don't Change Your Name]

"The failure of attempts to attain freedom does not mean the cause is lost." - Johann Most

[Pawn Power]

well i did my speech today

this was the inrto
“The ideal tyranny is that in which is ignorantly self-administrated by its victims. The most perfect slaves are, therefore, those which blissfully and inwardly enslave themselves” (Dresden James ) We, here is America, believe we are free. We have our freedom of speech, press, religion an assembly, right? Well some people in America aren’t as free as others. Not everyone in America is free and most people arent even aware of it. I will tell you two stories about Americans that reveal how we are not free.

then i told the story of Sherman Austin from raisedfist.com and Mumia Abu-Jamal the man wrongfully put on death row.

this is what i said in the conclusion
I hope these stories enlighten you. There are falsities about our way of life that everyone is not aware of. These stories persuade me to agree with Lenin’s saying, “While the State exists, there can be no freedom. When there is freedom there will be no State”. Everyone should understand that Freedom is our right not a privilege.

i think the class liked it but dident really put to much thought into the context of what i was saying, the class is really how you present yourself.

[Palmares]

Originally posted by [email protected] 8 2004, 05:37 AM
Everyone should understand that Freedom is our right not a privilege.

I said something useful then.

Well done comrade! :D

[gaf]

[QUOTE=glory,Jun 8 2004, 05:37 AM] Everyone should understand that Freedom is our right not a privilege.




no freedom is not a right(should be but sorry it isn't).
you just have to choose for it . and it differs from a person to an other(like i say earlier it's a question of CHOICES,that's why it's so difficult to find, because all choices are made of compromising . do you think che was happy to be head of the cuban bank?).......
and it is surely not a privilege

[Pawn Power]

I said something useful then.

Well done comrade!

yea, thanks for the help agian, as you can see your ideas were usefull





[QUOTE=glory,Jun 8 2004, 05:37 AM] Everyone should understand that Freedom is our right not a privilege.




no freedom is not a right(should be but sorry it isn't).
you just have to choose for it . and it differs from a person to an other(like i say earlier it's a question of CHOICES,that's why it's so difficult to find, because all choices are made of compromising . do you think che was happy to be head of the cuban bank?).......
and it is surely not a privilege

i see where you are comming from

freedom should be our right!

[Palmares]

Freedom is not a right? Freedom is a concept, and difficult enough to describe. When I said it was a right, I did not mean it in the government sanctioned context, but rather what I believe freedom to be. I believe I am free (though the freedom of others does somewhat counter this), I believe it it my right to be what I intrinsically am and have.

[Pedro Alonso Lopez]

Well you could right about freedom of the mind from dogma perhaps, it might be a little different and more interesting than most and just tie in a few free thinkers.

[Soul Keeper]

"Freedom is a right, not a privilege."?????

I disagreed! If money is a privilege of those who have it, then freedom is also a privilege. after all, freedom is not for free.

[Palmares]

Money represents value. Is that what freedom is to you? Is it simply a commodity?

I believe freedom is part of me, and hence comes through my interaction with other things, including that of which denies my freedom. One can never be absolutely free, as since conflict exists, people will always use their freedom against others' freedom.

[The idealist]

The most terrible thing about humans is that they will fight to the death to gain freedom, and then cast it aside once gained.


"Freedom is a right, not a privilege."?????

I disagreed! If money is a privilege of those who have it, then freedom is also a privilege. after all, freedom is not for free.


Freedom is a right. Something everyone shouldn't be denied.
Money is not a right, it is a virtue. Some are more lucky than others, but a person who does nothing cannot rightiously claim money. It is a privilege.

[Daymare17]

Freedom is to know what's necessary (Hegel).

[Lardlad95]

Here's what I would do....Explain the idea of freedom laid out by each one of the Social Contract Theorists (Locke, Hobbes, Rousseau) and critique each one