Who was a more contravesal performer

[Red2K4]

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[Dirty Commie]

What did Alice Cooper do that woujld be so controversial?

[truthaddict11]

i can really only think of one thing i think it involved a chicken

[celtopunk]

GG Allin beats them all!!

[mentalbunny]

I went for Bowie because I think his androgynous look shocked quite a few people, but Marilyn Manson's tempting, mostly because so many blamed him for Columbine.

[Hate Is Art]

I'd go for Manson, there was some early footage I saw of him where he smashed a glass bottle over his chest and cut himself with it!

You could put Richey from the Manic's up there, he was pretty cool, wearing a dress and scratching "4 Real" into his arm with a razor blade! :o

[Red2K4]

I put Alice Cooper in because he was a lighter version of Manson. Parents were just as shocked by him in his day as they are now with Marilyn Manson.

[truthaddict11]

ozzy hasnt done that much shocking stuff either if you dont count the years of drug abuse I can only think of a couple things "shocking" he has done, and that whole bat thing was accidental. Plus taking a piss on the Alamo and then being banned from San Antonio for a few years is funny

[Sammi87]

was he banned from San Antonio because he pissed on the alamo?

[truthaddict11]

Originally posted by [email protected] 27 2004, 01:39 PM
was he banned from San Antonio because he pissed on the alamo?
i dont think he was banned from the city just banned from performing there

[Sammi87]

wasn't the story that he was desperate for a piss and his bus just happened to stop outside the alamo so he just jumped out and did a piss?

[Dr. Rosenpenis]

I think he also bit off the heads of some doves, didn't he?

[Rastafari]

it's all bullshit.

Salvador Dali was a better self-promoter (read: "more contravertial person") than all of these screw-heads.


My favorite Doors moment was when Jim and the boys were in Germany and he said something about Alice Cooper saying that "Hitler was the first rock star."

[Ziggy]

yeah, at some meeting with a record company. Sharon planned it so ozzy would release the doves and it would be symbolic but ozzy bit the head off instead. I voted david bowie because at that time the mere thought of homosexuality sent people into a mad craze (seems familiar) also the showing up in full natzi uniform and doing the salute was pretty bad, but bowie quickly recovered from it. this site explains pretty well why bowie did that.David Bowie (http://experts.about.com/q/403/1615306.htm)

[Dr. Rosenpenis]

yeah, at some meeting with a record company. Sharon planned it so ozzy would release the doves and it would be symbolic but ozzy bit the head off instead. I voted david bowie because at that time the mere thought of homosexuality sent people into a mad craze (seems familiar) also the showing up in full natzi uniform and doing the salute was pretty bad, but bowie quickly recovered from it. this site explains pretty well why bowie did that.David Bowie

wow, i had no idea!
Where do you find all this information, man?

[Invader Zim]

Manson hands down, just the name, manson is contraversial, I take it you all know about the famous manson family muders?

[Ziggy]

vh1 on very lonely boring weekends..... it was on the 100 most shocking moments in rock hist, as was the david bowie incident. I also like to know about the bands i listen to, most kids these days (and i'm what? 16?) don't bother with names and background info on bands which is a shame, they just listen to the music and forget about the musician.

[Dr. Rosenpenis]

VH1, eh?
:lol:
I watched that one time.
They were comparing Led Zeppelin to The Who..... in I love 1978. :blink:
Who the fuck compares Led Zeppelin to The Who... in 1978? And they're a channel only about music. They should know better. And they're very opinionated. Obviously they're targeting the most musically ignorant demographic, because nobody else is interested in that useless, opinionated information.

The internet is far better for researching musicians. Most musicians have really nifty websites anyway. =D

[celtopunk]

Originally posted by [email protected] 27 2004, 09:25 PM
Manson hands down, just the name, manson is contraversial, I take it you all know about the famous manson family muders?
Anybody that would pick that poseur Manson (oh yes what a controversial name) has no idea who GG Allin is. So I'll say it again GG Allin, look him up. He was known for shitting on the stage and throwing it into the crowd. He often perfromed naked covered in his own blood and excrement. He would piss on stage and even was given a blow job on stage. I could go on. Basically in terms of controversey Mr Manson isn't fit to hold GG's shit.

And don't forget Screamin Jay Hawkins, he was emerging from a coffin and carrying skulls (during the 1950's) long before Alice Cooper.

[Pawn Power]

i picked manson because he just seems to offend so many people

[Rastafari]

Originally posted by celtopunk+May 27 2004, 08:35 PM--> (celtopunk @ May 27 2004, 08:35 PM)
[email protected] 27 2004, 09:25 PM
Manson hands down, just the name, manson is contraversial, I take it you all know about the famous manson family muders?
Anybody that would pick that poseur Manson (oh yes what a controversial name) has no idea who GG Allin is. So I'll say it again GG Allin, look him up. He was known for shitting on the stage and throwing it into the crowd. He often perfromed naked covered in his own blood and excrement. He would piss on stage and even was given a blow job on stage. I could go on. Basically in terms of controversey Mr Manson isn't fit to hold GG's shit.

And don't forget Screamin Jay Hawkins, he was emerging from a coffin and carrying skulls (during the 1950's) long before Alice Cooper. [/b]
agreed.

Manson is a poseur.



What about that stupid ***** (Wendy Williams) of the Plasmatics? She was a little contraversial, as well

[celtopunk]

Originally posted by [email protected] 28 2004, 03:58 AM
agreed.

Manson is a poseur.

What about that stupid ***** (Wendy Williams) of the Plasmatics? She was a little contraversial, as well
Yeah Wendy O Williams was a bit controversial at the time. She would come out on stage with only shaving cream on her tits and sometimes with just electrical tape on her nipples. I'd say for pure theatrics/shock value she beat Ozzy.

[DaCuBaN]

Nullified vote, as it's surely Jim Morrison

I mean he got his wang out on stage (if contraversy is your thing) and got extradited for it.

To the best of my knowledge none of the others have been kicked out of a country for their 'antics'

[Dr. Rosenpenis]

Oh yeah, I've heard of GG Allin.
I've never actually heard his music, though. Was it any good?

If controversy's your thing, I think this is your guy. All the photos I’ve ever seen of him, he's nearly naked or fully naked, very bloody with open wounds, very strange piercing, tattoos all over his body of very controversial topics, and I've read that it was usual for this guys to shit on his audience, piss on them, masturbate on stage, have women give him blow jobs on stage, have intercourse on stage, do drugs on stage and other such 'controversial' acts. He died of drugs use, if that adds to it. Everything that the man did was controversial.

[Invader Zim]

Originally posted by celtopunk+May 28 2004, 12:35 AM--> (celtopunk @ May 28 2004, 12:35 AM)
[email protected] 27 2004, 09:25 PM
Manson hands down, just the name, manson is contraversial, I take it you all know about the famous manson family muders?
Anybody that would pick that poseur Manson (oh yes what a controversial name) has no idea who GG Allin is. So I'll say it again GG Allin, look him up. He was known for shitting on the stage and throwing it into the crowd. He often perfromed naked covered in his own blood and excrement. He would piss on stage and even was given a blow job on stage. I could go on. Basically in terms of controversey Mr Manson isn't fit to hold GG's shit.

And don't forget Screamin Jay Hawkins, he was emerging from a coffin and carrying skulls (during the 1950's) long before Alice Cooper. [/b]
Loads of bands have thrown shit into the crowd.

I change my mind anyway the most contraversial "performer", is this white power ass hole called Varg Vikernes (aka Count Grishnackh), who actually murdered people, and was (still is) in general a complete nutcase.

[Red2K4]

To clarify my choices for the poll; I picked those who were contravesial and also a household name. With no disrespect to GG Allin or his fans he isn't that well known.

But, maybe I should've added Elvis. after all he did piss off a lot of mothers with his pelvious shaking antics

[Dr. Rosenpenis]

I like it how you call it 'antics' :lol:
But yeah, he did kinda start the whole thing, didn't he?

[Urban Rubble]

I can't believe GG isn't on the list. At least some people mentioned him.

That motherfucker was insane. He used to shit on stage, eat it, smear it on people, smear it on himself and proceed to headbutt people while naked. That guy was out of hand. Do yourself a favor and try to look up the story of his last night alive, some guy who was with him wrote it.

EDIT: What about the Sex Pistols ? Jesus, I can't believe you left them out. They caused so much chaos when Johhny Rotten said "fuck" on live TV, English people were smashing their TV's and going nuts ! They couldn't handle that shit. Sid Vicous used to get sucked off on stage, one time he was so high on heroin he diarehea'd all over the girl performing the act. Before Sid was in the band he used to follow them around to every show, there is some legendary stories from those days. One time, they were playing some nearly deserted biker bar. The only people there were gnarly bikers who hated them. They were throwing bottles and shit onstage, being dicks. So what does the 130 pound Sid Vicious do ? Cannonballs off the stage into 5 of them and starts brawling, he almost got killed.

Plus, they stole alot of money from 2 different major labels with the whole "Great Rock n Roll Swindle".

[truthaddict11]

has anyone heard of GWAR?

[Timon of Athens]

Originally posted by [email protected] 28 2004, 01:54 AM
i picked manson because he just seems to offend so many people
None of them were that controversial. Anyway, if you're going on shock value, Elvis should be in there. And you gotta give Janet Jackson points for her little 'wardrobe malfunction'. :lol:

[Hate Is Art]

Let's fuck some kids, they can't say no
Molest them now before they grow
Threaten them with oral sex
Expose yourself to incest


got that from a quick hunt for some GG Allin lyrics, he is messed!

[Urban Rubble]

has anyone heard of GWAR?

Of course ! They played in Seattle a month ago, it was great. I don't even really like their music, I just went to see the show. It's more like a play than it is a rock show. I love Gwar, those guys are awesome. They almost got signed to Alternative Tentacles (Jello Biafra's label), but Jello couldn't afford them, due to the Dead Kennedys suing him.


A pic of Gwar.


http://img.imagetown.net/7099301.jpg

[pandora]

It's a shame more people didn't pick ALice Cooper, Bowie had the greater effect over the long haul, he's still at it, going anti-American after gender bending the 70's. His androgynous nature stirred a lot of controversy with males not open to such.

I love Gwar, particularly the woman with them, she and I had mutual respect for one another as performers back in the 90's when I could still kick ass, jump up do a trick land correctly flip, now I'd hurt myself, old age. :D , she employed a friend of mine who also works AS PANDORA as a sword swallower here for her freak circus. Gwar are a million times more original and on it than Manson, a faded copy.

They did a film back in the early 90's about a space ship that ran on crack fiends and children on milk cartons, and priests with choir boys that make Manson look like a kindergartener. And they are a million times more entertaining.

They used to use fake blood that looked real, but had to stop, my friend in the early 90's was coming home from a show and stopped by the police
THEY WERE HORRIFIED
Believing she had been in an accident they offered her assistance to the hospital.

[Urban Rubble]

And while I'm at it, GG Allin:


http://www.ggallin.com/images/gallerypics/gg4.jpg

[pandora]

I cared about GG Allin, but I didn't approve of his shows because he attacked women in the audience a lot in particular, just for effect and had been on rape and assault charges.

He was really confused. I forget the whole story, something to do with the lose of his wife, and giving up on living, so that's why he thought well if I'm going to kill myself why not make a spectacle of it.

BUt MISSING ONE"S WIFE IS NOT AN EXCUSE TO ABUSE OTHER WOMEN,
he realized this towards the end, and CHanged that aspect of his act, although keeping a lot of the other stuff.

So worshipping acts he himself learned were wrong is stupid!
By the end he had a young but very intelligent girlfriend and actually started to care about himself again, but then her family intervened and he ODed.

Really sad.
Anyone who saw him on Halloween was asking for it as he said he would KILL HIMSELF ON STAGE ON HALLOWEEN AND TAKE THE AUDIENCE WITH HIM, people are stupid, because when he was depressed he would have done it.

He and El Douche were actually good guys one-on-one who had a lot of trauma, addiction and shit. A lot of the misguided hero worship of the debauchery they engaged in as their STICK really pisses me off.

Because when these guys were down and out and asking for money SPARE CHANGING IN LA etc, ALL THOSE FUCKERS DESERTED THEM<
END OF STORY.

[themessiah]

there is a trend someone like me could have done without knowing about - the death worship culture as a form of entertainment.

heard stories and have seen movies about like stupid kids who try to convince vulnerable people to kill themselves or play russian roulette and shit for acceptance. and then it gets taken too far. dead pools and competitions and the like. who would have guessed that I would be looking at a corpse? on his website. very nice.

as for the halloween story, anybody who would pay to see something like that should be thrown in prison. for a long time. the thought alone makes me ill. and culturally speaking, this regression, to me, is a key inidication of capitalisms failure. to revert back to ancient forms of entertainment where the mass morons can only feel decent about their pathetic and idiotic lives by watching the destruction of others. THATS entertainment.

[dark fairy]

I hate to go with the crowd but manson{i think} would have to be it... this fucker is just always getting blamed for some crazy shit and people just haven&#39;t something like him before so yeah

[truthaddict11]

Originally posted by dark [email protected] 29 2004, 01:04 AM
I hate to go with the crowd but manson{i think} would have to be it... this fucker is just always getting blamed for some crazy shit and people just haven&#39;t something like him before so yeah
most of the stuff about Manson is made up by the christian right

[celtopunk]

Originally posted by dark [email protected] 29 2004, 06:04 AM
I hate to go with the crowd but manson{i think} would have to be it... this fucker is just always getting blamed for some crazy shit and people just haven&#39;t something like him before so yeah
Still voting for Manson?? Obviously you haven&#39;t read through this thread.
Go to this site: http://www.geocities.com/ekx001/mg.html A great collection of stuf about GG.

GWAR was brought up but. I saw them open a show for ???? back in the late 80s. They were somewhat entertaining but like a b-horror movie.

As for GG Allin, I wasn&#39;t holding him out as a hero or anything just pointing out some facts which I think make him the most controversial perfromer mentioned thus far. I never heard much of his music but he did get to perfrom with some great underground rockers.

Face it people like Manson are "pre-certified", "pre-approved" and "pre-packaged" controversy for mass commercial consumption. You can enjoy the music/show just don&#39;t be fooled by it.

[che's long lost daughter]

Who is that GG Allin? He sounds really controversial although not as famous as Manson.

[Urban Rubble]

GG was not a man to be admired, I just think he was entrtaining. Kind of like a trainwreck.


as for the halloween story, anybody who would pay to see something like that should be thrown in prison. for a long time. the thought alone makes me ill. and culturally speaking, this regression, to me, is a key inidication of capitalisms failure. to revert back to ancient forms of entertainment where the mass morons can only feel decent about their pathetic and idiotic lives by watching the destruction of others. THATS entertainment.

Well, ummm, fuck you.... I guess. I would pay to see GG if he was alive, I don&#39;t think that I deserve prison for that.

[Dr. Rosenpenis]

Originally posted by che&#39;s long lost [email protected] 29 2004, 02:03 PM
Who is that GG Allin?
Read the links, man&#33; :lol:

[Hate Is Art]

He sure was weird&#33;&#33; What kind of music did he actualy play? And was it any good?