I get this feeling more times everyday - let me explain this

[Hayduke]

Most people here are socialist ....and mostly have developed a hate against america........
Therefore Im willing to explain it to you al tought its basically basic shit......
If I think bout all those people who die cause america wants to show who has the weapons.....wich country " defend " the others..... I feel the hate coming up........Makes me want to do something ....radical against America.......

First time I saw the people in the middle east having a party when the WTC was attacked......I thought suckers .......but now I understand them......If i saw m people dying everyday cause of america I would party too when they were attacked......

But this feeling is different......I can't really do something bout it....
The only thing that helps is the thought of America that will be attacked one of these days..........and when that day comes.....
This feeling wil go away.....!

[Derar]

Just for ur info ...... these tapes of ppl celebrating when wtc tragedy happend was fabricated ...... these tapes were old tapes from a wedding .... and some were from the gulf war .


And i still cant believe how a huge media corporation like Cnn posted this so many times ...... and then some ppl from cnn admitted that it was an old recording , and that they were mistaken ...... but we heard no apology !!!

[sabre]

where are you from D-DAY

[jimr]

i get a different feeling. When i learn of all the terrible things happening in this world because of western ideas and capitalism as a whole, I think how pointless my life is. I live in Scotland. I am 17 and i am thinking what i wish to do when im older. I can think of nothing. I wish to go to university and study more about history, or philosophy hoping to find a cause. I am a marxist yet i can see no practical way to change the pain i feel inside. I see things in Chechnya and Colombia and i feel a pull in my soul to fight for a cause. Yet ultimatly I am at a loss. I am utterly depressed and can see no way to change the way the world works. Sometimes i think of what happened in WTC, and I admire for just a second, that the people on board were trying to make a difference against something that was so hopeless. I do not agree with what they were actually trying to do, but it is no less disgusting to that which America has done over the years.

I feel guilty and sick sometimes when, for just a second, i hope that osama bin laden wins against America. This is borne simply from my hate of America, and my admiration of anyone who tries to change the way of teh world. But looking at it objectively i dispise everything that al queda stands for.

Other times when i think back on the Spanish civil war I wish i was alive then. So i could have fought for the popular front government, maybe stop Franco from gaining power.

I feel sick

[Lardlad95]

I have a different feeling. I hate the government not the country. There are alot of cool people here but the government overshadows that with its injustice and idiocy

I can understand why those people attacked the WTC but that doesn't justify what they did

[MetalGus]

D-Day, I get this feeling quite often too.
I'm 18 and also want to study at an university. I asked myself what I could do that would fit with my ideas. I decided to become an international journalist.
This job will let me read about a whole range of international situations (including american foreign policy since it's basically involved in every international crisis).
Sure, I'll probably work for a major news media, but maybe not.

But sometimes, when I'm more depressed, I wish I could buy a plain ticket to Palestine, get a AK-47 and fire at those fucking Tsahal tanks till I die. But that sure won't solve the problem.

But like jimr, I tought about the Spanish civil war.

I don't know. I do feel hatred for the USofA and the bourgeoisie.

I don't think terrorism is the way to go though.
But you can do different forms of protests.
It may sound dumb but doing grafiti on selected buildings or billboards can wake some people up.

I wish there was a war worth fighting.
That's what I said to my friends, I don't want to die in a old-folks home, I wanna die at war.

I guess I'll get the CIA on my back with this post (fuck you CIA scumbags).

[Lardlad95]

i don't wanna die in war....I want the cappis to die in war. But your right dying fighting is better than sitting back like a pussy...hence my sig.

Fuck the CIA they kill everyoe anyway

[Lefty]

i feel helpless sometimes. whenever i pick up newsweek, time or a newspaper. but i try to spread the word, tell people what is wrong with capitalism. Why the Gap is bad. And slowly, i might help the revolution a little bit. Never Give Up. Its what Che wouldve wanted.

[Sasafrás]

I feel hatred for neither the country nor the government, just certain elements of the society and the government - racism, sexism, all other intolerance, the imperialistic ideas, power for the rich and death to the poor, etc. Not everything about this government is just pure evil (or whatever), but yes, a lot is. Maybe it's just me, but I think it's wrong for people to think that every single thing about a country (or system) is bad..

What's with this idea of "death to the 'cappies'"? Isn't that a little wrong? I don't think it should be about that. It should be about making the world around us aware of the injustice, not ensuring that all who oppose us die. A bit hypocritical. Please be real & sensative. That is how many of those on the right feel toward those on the left side of the spectrum. When we do as they do and act as they act, we're not really making the world a better place.

Nobody should have to die in war; there really should be no war. There is not and never will be such thing as a war that is worth fighting because all war does is fuck up the environment and give children the idea that it's okay to fight and kill. War is caused by intolerance, ignorance, and indifference.

When I hear 'western,' I don't necessarily think hemispherically. Aren't many parts of Europe also considered to be a part of the 'Western World' too ? Just asking..

And, this is very disturbing to me: Even though I say to my schoolmates that The Gap & Old Navy use child/cheap foreign labor, they have no concern. One of them said "Well, those kids make some really good clothes." That really hurt.

[Revolution Hero]

The right position is to be against the government and it' politics ( especially foreign).
I am against USA, because I see that shit going on in the world and I understand that US is a part of that shit.
The main goal , which US government have put in front- is to be the ruler of the whole world. It's apparent now, after fucking bustards have mooved they troops on Afghanistan territory.

And finally my own theory, which explains most of that
shit. I suppose that US government and CIA have planned the 11th September attack by themselves, so they would have something to say entering Afghanistan.
Think about it......

[Angie]

Helplessness was something that I often used to feel, and do still feel at times - it's part of what makes me strong, the act of acknowledging what's wrong. Most people in my community are blind to that knowledge, so I consider myself fortunate.

I have always sympathised with those in the Third World, and when I got upset, I had no-one to turn to, and felt terribly guilty.

I have always known of Che Guevara, but hadn't bothered studying up on him for a long time. I spent more hours learning about Afghanistan's Commander Ahmed Shah Massoud, another person who I consider a wonderful example of mankind.

[All this was pre 9-11, I'm glad to say - he wasn't brought to my attention just because he was murdered a few days before the attack, which is the case with most people's knowledge of him. Made his death much harder to swallow, though...]

Where Massoud's interest lay only in Afghanistan, Che's interest in freeing all the world's oppressed is what truly pulled me in - my interest in him soon bipassed the the amount of time I spent studying Massoud, though I love the Afghani no less. So these days, I connect with the strength that Che's life makes me feel, and I use it constructively.

I'm the sort of person who has to put their thoughts down on paper to make any sense of it, so I write letters. I write them as if I were writing them to Che himself, explaining everything, and to be perfectly honest with you - it makes me feel a whole lot better.

So take those feelings of helplessness and apply them somewhere - volunteer with an organisation who works with people with a lower standard of living than yourself. Get involved in your local socialist movement if you're not already involved - surrounding yourself with those who have similar beliefs to yourself, both digitally (here) and physically has a calming effect. You won't feel so much anguish about being amongst those people of a capitalist nature - in my own case, I just cannot understand them anymore. It hurts to try.

So surround yourself with all you believe in (as Che would be likely to say - make it your entire life, not just part of it), and work for a positive change. And never give in - I know it's hard to feel strong when everything around you feels like it's falling down, but there's always a light, and more often than not, it's never that far away. :)

[guerrillaradio]

I know what you mean. I find myself so utterly desperate whenever read about the Middle East in the newspapers. The situation seems impossible to change, and the people who are suffering have nowhere to turn. I think the only way to productively help international society is not to pick up an AK-47 but to become an aid worker in the Third World. That way you will be helping people, regardless of race, colour or political standing. Fuck all politicians, help your brothers and sisters instead.

[honest intellectual]

I think the only way to productively help international society is not to pick up an AK-47 but to become an aid worker in the Third World.

No amount of aid will change the oppression of the Third world. We need to fight the power. Give a man a fish..... The oppresors must be overthrown. You feel helpless, powerless? Take the power, comrades. We can stand by no longer. The time is now. RedRevolutionary's sig goes something like "Stop asking the oppresor for freedom, eliminate the oppresor and take your freedom". That is perhaps a bit extreme, we can spare the lives of the capitalist villains who unfeelingly kill the poor and the exploited, but what we cannot do, comrades, is to stand by while the innocent are killed. It is better for the murdering businessmen and politicians to be violently thrown from power than for the deaths to be those of the exploited workers. Let the spirit of Che guide us to justice along the barrel of the gun . To quote munkey soup's sig:
The powerful of the earth should take heed: deep inside that T shirt where we have tried to trap him, the eyes of Che Guevara are still burning with impatience. - Ariel Dorfman

Che lives, comrades, and it is for us to prove it. If not in our native countries, then in Columbia, or Peru, or Mexico, or Nepal, or Angola. We of the communist vanguard have no nationality, we answer the call of the proletariat of the world. And I would rather have a piece of steel rip through my bones and organs at the speed of sound than feel I have done nothing to help the victims of the system.

Let us be realists. Let us insist on the impossible

(Edited by honest intellectual at 8:24 pm on Mar. 18, 2002)

[honest intellectual]

And to all my dear, dear friends in the C.I.A. who are reading this, if you want to arrest me, look for me on the flights to Columbia. Have a nice day

[TITOMAn]

I think that if you want to help at least a little. Paint the walls with anti-government words. If you make nice proverbs, or something like that, all people will remember them, which will stay in their consciousness.

[Angie]

And to all my dear, dear friends in the C.I.A. who are reading this, if you want to arrest me, look for me on the flights to Columbia. Have a nice day
:biggrin: I think that just made my day!
Reserve the seat next to you, though, you've got company.