The Death Penalty.... - Justice for Mumia!

[TheDerminator]

Been out of touch.
Still, there is a nugget of gold.
Fucking appalling that I never heard of the guy. I do read some of the mainstream broadsheets in the YUK, but it just shows how ill-informed I am.

(Edited by TheDerminator at 4:34 pm on Mar. 16, 2002)

[Rosa]

hmm...and what method should be used to do that?
breaking in cnn program? WOULD LOVE THAT! sounds impossible, but when nobody is trying, it's impossible for certain.

[TheDerminator]

However, in my view I would still put a sticky up about the death penalty in the United States.
It is the worst fucking human rights outrage in the world!

(Edited by TheDerminator at 4:36 pm on Mar. 16, 2002)

[Michael De Panama]

Um...dude...Mumia has been off death row for months now. Where have you been? I think you are the one who is not up to date.

[guerrillaradio]

Yeah, I was gonna say...he was released three months back...

[sabre]

he is awaiting a re-sentancing

april 4-6 it is supposedto be , alot of people gonna be in philly to support him

[TheDerminator]

Kill the Death Penalty!
The thing is that there is no comparison between the human rights abuse of the Death Penalty in the United States and the human rights abuse else where.
It is the leading nation in the world, and if you want to stop the Death Penalty on a global basis, you have to start with the United States, which has the greatest influence of any nation in the world.
It is fucking appalling that on an issue that even would united some of the BORGS against one extremely evil part of global "civilisation" that the community is not showing that it is not just a talking shop.
In a sense capital punishment is the weakest link in the BORG ethos, because it is inherently so obviously unethical. It is so obviously against the spirit of Jesus Christ and the bastards who support it would indeed have crucified Christ as a traitor for his attitude towards the Samaritans and a few things besides.
You see, Mumia is relatively unimportant as he would accept. The greater importance is all those people around the world on Death Row.
The problem with Amnesty International is that it sees some kind of equality in murder and torture, and there is none. The least mitigation is in the United States. The least. There can be no authority without responsibility, and if you take on the role of world superpower, your civilisation is the benchmark for the rest of the world, and this is what the United States thinks of itself. The greatest nation on Earth!
It cannot have it both ways and it has to be rammed down its throat, that the Death Penalty existing in the United States is a fucking outrage against humanity, and people in the Community who are members of gutless Amnesty International have a moral obligation to let them know that they are complicit in their lack of prioritisation.
I mean, you have stars like Bono of U2 who support Amnesty. Many other influential people do too. The rock world showed what it could day with Band Aid, and Mandela Day.
If they had a Kill the Death Penalty concert, albumn and single with various artists contributing for free, they could make a real fucking difference. There is a complete fucking travesty that Amnesty is letting the bastards get away with murder.
We should have a sticky under the title of Kill the Death Penalty and invite everyone in the Community and as Guests to add support in the Topic, as well as add to the debate within the thread.
Lives are at stake all around the world, and the key to an international agreement is the United States of America.
I will send a message to Malte and hope you will do the same. You see when Rosa asks helplessly "what can we do", we can at least do one thing, and that is to make anyone who contacts the Community aware that on some issues we are completely united, and that we have our priorities right even if they do not.
How does that help? Well, it is at least a small start in raising consciousness, about the worst human rights abuse on the planet.
It is the worst because the US does not has the same mitigation as less developed countries. It is always going to be the worst, until the US gets rid of the Death Penalty.
Very glad to hear about Mumia. Hope the "re-sentancing" does not leave him, wishing he was dead.

May the Force with U!

derminated

[Nickademus]

Quote: from guerrillaradio on 12:46 pm on Mar. 16, 2002
Yeah, I was gonna say...he was released three months back...


he wasn't released but he was taken from death row....he still has to serve time in jail

[honest intellectual]

We hereby dec;are that all men are created equal, that they are endowed by their creator with certain unalienable rights among these are life, liberty and the pursuit of happiness

Unalienable right to life, it's pretty fucking clear that the death penalty is unconstitutional. The Americans here should spread the word about this.
Sorry if i misquoted the constituation

[TheDerminator]

Yep, honest intellectual, a bit like the "pursuit of happiness" that one!

I'll tell the jokes!

Yeah, well that "liberty" one has them rolling down the aisles now to mention it.

I mean there bound to be other people in the United States on Death Row, who ought not to be there for whatever reasons, and if there last words are "life, liberty and the pursuit of happiness, there would be more than a hint of irony!

Red Star, I have thought of a new way for you to gain street cred by gaining posts, thus adding to your stars and kudos as a great leader!
This thread, was made for you! All you need to do is keep it at the top of General Politics by typing in Kill the Death Penalty! everytime you log on!
No one is going to notice too much what you do in the tests. This is your big chance to fulfill all your ambitions. Just think on it, if you do ten posts during one hundred days you will have one thousand posts, and each post is legit, because U will be keeping the thread as the top priority topic!
This is your chance for glory, kudos and at the same time be on the side of righteousness! Hallelujah! U know if U don't do it, some other wannabe is gonna beat you to it!
Still, the more the merrier! Let's reach for the stars!

May the Force be with U!

derminated

[TheDerminator]

Kill the Death Penalty!

See works every time! Register your condemnation of the worlds worst abuse of Human Rights here in this thread!

May the Force be with U!

[DestinDisaster]

Hey,

about Mumia, does anyone ever listen to his monthly radio shows? It's not in his voice because pennsylvania prison's banned him from actually speaking, but it's his speeches. I was just wondering where I could find it.

About the death penalty, I just watched the most upsetting documentary I have ever seen. It came on HBO, it was "America Undercover, Sundays" and it was about a woman named Wanda Jean Allen. She was put on death row for killing her girlfriend, but she had an unfair trial. First off all, she was mildly retarded. Also, her lawyer didn't even want to defend her and begged the court to relieve him, but they didn't. The jury never saw the doctor statements that she had a mental illness. To make things worse, during her clemency hearings the District Attorney swore she wasn't retarded because she graduated from high school, but when Wanda's council went to check her transcripts it showed that she was never even attended high school.

Unfair and injust. It was so sad to watch this documentary on her because all the while she was hopeful they would have taken her off of death row, even until the last 3 hours of her life. and then to watch her die. I just couldn't do it.

I can't see how a system can be so cruel and injust. What is wrong with mankind?!!!!

[TheDerminator]

DesinDisaster,

Sounds horrific. Couldn't watch it myself, if it was on YUK TV.
It's all the more the reason for keeping this post top of this forum.
The only big surprise is that the bastards did not broadcast the State murder live on TV! I mean, U can bet the TV Corps would have paid mega-bucks for that "priviledge".
Get the red-necks celebrating that one!
Sounds like party night to those bastards.

Kill the Death Penalty!

May the Force be with U!

derminated