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refuse_resist
20th May 2004, 01:27
An Internet hate group called "Free Republic" targeted Nick Berg's father and company on an enemies list two weeks before the son was detained by Iraqi police. The son was subsequently kidnapped and beheaded, allegedly by Islamic terrorists.
Two weeks before Nicolaus Berg, the American beheaded in Iraq, was picked up by Iraqi police, a right-wing hate group calling itself Free Republic (http://www.freerepublic.com) published an internet hit list of "enemies" with the avowed purpose of harassing and harming individuals on the list. The list was copied from an online petition supporting a March 20, 2004 demonstration sponsored by the anti-war group ANSWER. It included the name of Michael S. Berg and listed his affiliation as Prometheus Methods Tower Services, Inc.

Tactics discussed by the right-wingers included circulating the names to employers, the FBI and the military in anticipation of causing them "serious grief." One participant stated, "I sure do hope to see a round of hangings soon." The larger Free Republic site abounds with apocalyptic imagery, frequent calls for genocide against Muslims and Arabs and expressions of adoration for US President George W. Bush.

"Here you are, FReepers." wrote 'doug from upland,' the instigator of the enemies list, , "Here is the enemy. Working in conjunction with A.N.S.W.E.R., they have given us their names. How about this one --- Jameel Rashid, U.S. Coast Guard, Portsmouth, VA. Well, sailor. I guess it is time for me to call your commanding officer and see what he thinks about this."
The discussion topic is identified on the site by the "keywords": APPEASENIKS; DAMNCOMMIES; ENEMYWITHIN; LEFTISTS; PEACENIKS; RATS; SCUMBAGS; TRAITORS; TREASONOUSSCUM; USEFULIDIOTS; WARONTERROR

"Less [sic] we forget," replied 'bmwcycle,' "Everyone send this to Rush, Sean, Fox, and everyone you can e-mail this list. Don't stop until everyone has a copy."

The tone of discussion on the topic, which initially continued from March 7 to March 12 2004, may be summarized by the following comments:

"The poor moron is not going to know what hit him."

"2000 piles of puke on the floor, representing the who's who of the world of stench."

"Ah, too bad we don't have some pictures so we could make up a rogues gallery of some of the individuals."


"Turn on the full volume idiot alert with red strob [sic] light. This is priceless ---"

"I only wish this putz worked for me. I can assure you, he would rue the day his mother delivered him."

Discussion on the list had played itself out by March 12, totalling 269 messages. Then on May 11 it resumed with the message, "The guy who was beheaded was on this list. He was also arrested by Iraqi police and held in an Iraqi prison for a few weeks before he was kidnapped. I think they treated him better in the prison than the kidnappers did." This was followed by a correction, "Michael S. Berg, Teacher, Prometheus Methods Tower Service, Inc.," I believe this is the father of Nick Berg - I wonder what he thinks about his Muslim buddies now..."

One respondent to the message, "'He won't blame the Islamofascist bastards. He will blame the president'... and he has," expressed a desire to "spit in the face" of Michael Berg. It was deleted by the list moderator, (comment #275).

Another relayed the information that the FReeper enemies list was being mentioned in connection with Nick Berg's murder.

"Did you know FreeRepublic is being partially blamed for Nick Bergs beheading?" Asked one participant.

A subsequent message sought to disown any possible culpability, "FR just copied a list. Whoever put the list together in the first place is in the mix too." Two messages, their senders apparently struck by conscience or public relations savvy, quickly offered obligatory, if mixed, expressions of magnanimity: "My heart and prayers go out to the Berg family, and Mr. Berg's friends. My prayers also go, daily, to our fightig [sic] men and women, and that God will strike our enemies senseless." "My prayers are for the Berg family and friends also. Regardless of their politics they are parents and I have sympathy for what they must be going through. It has to be heart wrenching.

The last comment on the list, as of 4:10 am on May 13 complained, "Now we at Freerepublic are responsible for Berg's death-because of this thread?" But perhaps the answer to that had already appeared, two messages earlier with presumably unintentional irony: "When is the last time you saw someone on the political right do property damage or deliberately injure someone? When do we call for the death of anyone other than our enemies?"

refuse_resist
20th May 2004, 01:29
here's the URL http://portland.indymedia.org/en/2004/05/288339.shtml

What does everyone think about this?

fuerzasocialista
20th May 2004, 01:53
FUCK THE HEAD OF GEORGE W. BUSH :angry:

Maynard
20th May 2004, 02:07
Fuck his head ? Hmnnn..

It's interesting though, how there site is called "Free Republic" but only look to intimidate people too stop them expressing their opinion.


Glenn Beck, a radio host , also had this too say about Michael Berg "I find this guy [Michael Berg] despicable. Everything in me says that. The want to be a better person today than I was yesterday says he's a dad, he's grieving, but I don't buy that. I'm sorry, I don't buy it. I think he is grieving, but I think he's a scumbag as well. I don't like this guy at all."

He also said "I'm beginning to question, you know, "Can you let your son's body become the same temperature as your son's head before you turn this into a political campaign against the president -- could you do that?" Of course, Mr Beck would never use the death of an American be used too further a political cause.

I'm still not clear why Nick Berg was detained by the military though and was kept for so long, if he was just a civilian looking for work, who supported the war, something just doesn't add up there.

fuerzasocialista
20th May 2004, 02:54
After unvoluntarily witnessing that disgraceful and savage piece of human barbarism that was the video of his beheading, I'm starting to believe that Al-Queada and/or Iraqi/Arabic resistance members were not not the executioners depicted in the video. Something is really wrong here folks. :unsure:

emmissary
20th May 2004, 05:38
I have to agree with you macorix. Something isn't right.

fuerzasocialista
21st May 2004, 03:51
It justs creeps me out. I keep feeling that there is a "wag the dog" motive surrounding this situation.

DaCuBaN
21st May 2004, 05:05
...and the video... it was too clean :lol: and the executioners were wearing the wrong kind of symbolic headgear :rolleyes:

Much as I like conspiracy theories, they solve nothing. Start hunting for evidence folks - one way or another. This message board listing is a good start - nice work refuse_resist.

Slightly off topic, and highly amusing to me: it's never really about left/right islam/judeo-christian or however you wish to subdivide, but simply about people becoming extremists. Why does this seem to get overlooked?

fuerzasocialista
21st May 2004, 05:10
...and the video... it was too clean :lol: and the executioners were wearing the wrong kind of symbolic headgear :rolleyes:


Man, you'd figure that the CIA/Army Intelligence would have studied muslim extremist wardrobe more carefully.

DaCuBaN
21st May 2004, 05:19
I guess they are only human. Wait... did you say CIA? :lol:

Although it wouldn't surprise me if these pictures were rigged up by fundamentalist christians to garner support for the war, or fundamentalist communists to kick off some great conspiracy. Suffice to say it's the assholes who can't act like civil beings that create this problem. Did Romero's Day of the Dead teach us nothing? ;)

*EDIT*
Personally, I really don't buy this. I think the guy was most likely beheaded by Islamic fundamentalists (I'm running out of words - I really mean bigot), I merely hope for the former.

h&s
21st May 2004, 09:10
Regardless of who actually did it, the person responsible is George W Bush, and nick berg is just another statistic to him.

fuerzasocialista
21st May 2004, 13:54
I'll never forget the drawing of George W. in the form of a cartoon where he's dressed up as a Crusader from the Middle Ages. It was on the cover of a right-wing magazine called "The National Review" where he was praised for going to war in the Middle East. These conservatives are jack-offs case closed.

h&s
21st May 2004, 14:00
You should see the Steve Bell cartoons of Bush - he draws him as a chimpanzee dressed up as Darth Vader who calls terrorists "terrsts" and europe "yurp!" :D

http://www.johnmullen.org.uk/pics1/bellblair2.jpg

fuerzasocialista
21st May 2004, 14:04
Thats some funny stuff. LOL!!!


Tony Blair is a disgrace to the Labour Party.....

h&s
21st May 2004, 14:07
Yeah all of the Thatcherit... sorry, Blairites should be made to join the torries and let people like galloway back in and rule the party.

RevolutionNow
21st May 2004, 20:30
Originally posted by [email protected] 20 2004, 02:07 AM


It's interesting though, how there site is called "Free Republic" but only look to intimidate people too stop them expressing their opinion.



Good point man,
These Free Republic guys are no better than fascists, or Nazis. Posting ordinary peoples names on a hitlist for their political beliefs is irresponsible. This makes me think of the Hollerith Machines in Germany that registered the Jewish population. But now instead of the machines these fascists have a website.

Not Cool

refuse_resist
21st May 2004, 23:07
These same tactics have been used by the right-wing against activist everywhere. That's why this would not surprise me at all.

refuse_resist
21st May 2004, 23:18
Either way, whoever was behind it, the government used it as a propaganda ploy. All these reactionaries started bragging about how Iraq needed to be nuked and all this other crap.

fuerzasocialista
22nd May 2004, 02:35
I can't believe that there still is a right wing in these modern times....

DaCuBaN
22nd May 2004, 05:19
I can't believe you think that only the right wing can be this despicable. Therer are right evil lefties too y'know ;)

Not that I disagree... but we must keep an open mind. Mao, Stalin, Pol Pot were all described as left-wing, and most would not refute that. Not many would refute that these characters were also... troublesome... to say the least.