Walmarts postition on unions.

[Raisa]

I saw this report on their own site about wal mart workers writing letters to a union telling them to leave them alone becasue they "can speak for themselves and do not want a union to do it for them"

this is the walmart position on unions:


"At Wal-Mart, we respect the individual rights of our associates and encourage them to express their ideas, comments and concerns. Because we believe in maintaining an environment of open communications, we do not believe there is a need for third-party representation. "




Isnt that special :rolleyes:

[FatFreeMilk]

ha ha ha
I remember reading an article about this whole deal. Poor walmart employees man, they have like spys among the workers to see who's trying to get people to join unions. And then if they find those crazy trouble makers, they get FIRED.

shit man I remember saving that article..and I remember throwing it away too, damnit.

[Nickademus]

keep in mind that walmart is the WORST place as they are the largest users of forced labour and slave labour around the world. i'm not really shocked at their opinion. there is nothing redeeming about that company.

[timbaly]

Does anyone know how much of an effort their is to have unions for Walmart employees?

[Pawn Power]

wlmart is a evil corporation

[STI]

Originally posted by [email protected] 19 2004, 09:03 PM
wlmart is a evil corporation
Thank you, Dr. Glory for your most insightful and enlightening comments. I wish to subscribe to your newsletter.

[Severian]

Originally posted by [email protected] 19 2004, 02:17 PM
Does anyone know how much of an effort their is to have unions for Walmart employees?
There's a number of unions who've organized various organizing drives in different stores and distribution centers...and one case where meat-cutters in a Wal-Mart supermarket voted to join a union. Wal-Mart eliminated the department by bringing in pre-cut meat. In other cases, they've threatened to shut down whole stores and distribution centers.

[Dr. Rosenpenis]

meat-cutters in a Wal-Mart supermarket voted to join a union. Wal-Mart eliminated the department by bringing in pre-cut meat.

They sure let their workers "speak for themselves".
What fucking pigs!

[Pawn Power]

Originally posted by [email protected] 20 2004, 12:01 AM

Thank you, Dr. Glory for your most insightful and enlightening comments. I wish to subscribe to your newsletter.
i try :D

[truthaddict11]

Originally posted by [email protected] 18 2004, 10:47 PM
I remember reading an article about this whole deal. Poor walmart employees man, they have like spys among the workers to see who's trying to get people to join unions. And then if they find those crazy trouble makers, they get FIRED.

you cant be fired for organizing or joining a union, got this link from RedCeltic 35 Things Your Employer Cant Do (http://www.teamsterslocal20.org/organizing/35things.htm)

[emmissary]

They cant fire you for starting a Union but I'm sure they;ll find something to get rid of you for.

[Red2K4]

Originally posted by [email protected] 19 2004, 08:17 PM
Does anyone know how much of an effort their is to have unions for Walmart employees?
a friend of mine who used to work at a walmart told me that about half of the people there wanted aunion and the other half didn't care or didn't want one.

[Raisa]

Originally posted by truthaddict11+May 20 2004, 03:14 AM--> (truthaddict11 @ May 20 2004, 03:14 AM)
[email protected] 18 2004, 10:47 PM
I remember reading an article about this whole deal. Poor walmart employees man, they have like spys among the workers to see who's trying to get people to join unions. And then if they find those crazy trouble makers, they get FIRED.

you cant be fired for organizing or joining a union, got this link from RedCeltic 35 Things Your Employer Cant Do (http://www.teamsterslocal20.org/organizing/35things.htm) [/b]
In my state, Florida, they can fire you for what ever they want, and they dont have to give you a reason either. Its called a "right to work" state.

[SittingBull47]

they're too afraid to speak for themselves. only a union of employees can threaten them to change if something's amiss.

[praxis1966]

Most of the places I've ever worked, and I too live in Florida, make you sign an "open employment" agreement as a condition of being hired. What they generally say is that the term of your employment can be terminated at any time for any reason by either the employer or the employee. They try to dress it up by making it sound like there is some greater level of freedom involved, but in actuality it's just to give management breathing room on issues like these.

Truthaddict: I hear what the Teamsters are saying. The problem is, in the case of the above stated example, that only applies if management tells you that you are being terminated for union activity. In this case, as long as they don't give you a reason they are in the clear. I understand the unfairness of legal loopholes like that, but that discussion is a whole other can of tuna.

[Severian]

Threatening to shut down a business if it's unionized is also illegal. Enforcement is also weak for that. Occasionally, an employer does get in trouble for that kind of thing. Depending on the strength and persistence of the workers involved.

[redstar2000]

The Wal-Mart "Business Model" and the American Working Class (http://redstar2000papers.fightcapitalism.net/theory.php?subaction=showfull&id=1083586725&archive=&cnshow=headlines&start_from=&ucat=&)

:redstar2000:

The Redstar2000 Papers (http://www.redstar2000papers.fightcapitalism.net)
A site about communist ideas

[DaCuBaN]

Well to my knowledge it's UK equivelant of ASDA hasn't tried anything as daring as this, but you can see redstars point. Although admittedly I don't see the UK doing as you expect the US to, despite the apparent similarities.

[Maynard]

According to Business Week "Firing activists--as companies do in fully one-quarter of union drives, according to studies of NLRB cases--is difficult to prove and takes years to work through the courts" so while it's illegal too fire someone for organising a union, they usually find a way around it plus they also have the advantage of high price lawyers representing them, while those workers can barely survive.


http://www.businessweek.com/magazine/conte...43/b3805095.htm (http://www.businessweek.com/magazine/content/02_43/b3805095.htm)

It seems as if it'll be a long struggle and Wal Mart will go kicking and screaming all the way, they do know, as the comment suggests, that a union would pose much more of a threat then that of the individual, so it's in their interest too keep the unions away and as always, there is a "freedom" touch behind it all.

[truthaddict11]

In my state, Florida, they can fire you for what ever they want, and they dont have to give you a reason either. Its called a "right to work" state.


I think you misunderstand, right to work makes it so a workplace cant make union membership compulsuary in order to work at a place.

[pandora]

Originally posted by [email protected] 21 2004, 02:45 AM

In my state, Florida, they can fire you for what ever they want, and they dont have to give you a reason either. Its called a "right to work" state.


I think you misunderstand, right to work makes it so a workplace cant make union membership compulsuary in order to work at a place.
You're both right, a right to work state can have a variety of anti-worker, anti-union laws, which force down wages and basically have a no excuse fire policy for employers.
But of course you can't collect unemployment for five weeks if fired, but they don't have to give a reason, saves them more money that way. :P