Scotland Giving Up?

[MaQuIs]

Greetings all, first time poster here and I figured i'd start up a new topic.

Being of Irish and Scottish descent, I am a stren supporter of any and all groups that try and make the effort to try and free my home countries (I live in the US by the way) from British Imperialism.

Now I am a student of history, and the Irish in Northern Ireland have continually fought to free themselves (i.e. the IRA and Sein Fein). Yet after the British gave the Scot's the right to have a parliment and govern themselves it seems like the arguments for a Scotish Republic have died off, why is this? What do the others on this board think?

[Supermodel]

Here's the flaw in all nations' fights for independence from a prior imperialist: how far back into history do you go? The Scots nationalists were themselves the superior tribe at some point in the past, dislocating and out breeding people who were there before them.

By your support of so-called "nationalist" factions in european countries, you should leave the US and hand your possessions back to the Indians. But you can't do that, because they were just a tribe who massacred the previous tribe.

Here's a concept for you. All countries belong to the people alove in the world who were born there. History is completely irrelevant. Therefore the will of the people living there today is the only thing that matters.

[TheDerminator]

It is horses for courses.
You support nationalism, when there is a right for self-determination, and not to do so, is to support the oppressor nation.
As for the specific situation in Scotland, most Scots in opinion polls believe the devolved parliament will eventually lead to Scottish nationhood, even if they are not yet prepared to take that step.
In Britain, the most vibrant left-wing group, is the Scottish Socialist Party. It's leader Tommy Sheridan is really the only main leader who is given publicity on a regular basis by the mainstream. He has a bit of a high profile, and is Member of the Scottish Parliament.
Sheridan left British Unionism, behind because practical politics in Scotland dictates, that we see ourselves as still an oppressed nation. It may not seem that way, because there is a voting right, but oppression is not just a political question it is also a cultural question.
There can as Tom Nairn pointed out be no doubt that Scottish culture has been eclipsed by English culture. It is not that leftwing socialists in Scotland wish to turn back the clock, but at the same time, this cultural oppression is a reality in modern day Scotland, and is reflection in the devaluation of Scottish writers, and artists past and present, and in the devaluation of the Scottish history taught in our Schools. It is the denial of the Scottish identity.
I am an internationalist, but all forms of oppression have to be recognised, and have to be addressed by the socialist movement. Unionism, is the sanction of the cultural suppression of the Scottish people. We live in a modern complex world, and oppression comes in many forms. Scotland is an old nation, and as people in Eastern Europe will tell you, just because you are an old nation it does not mean your history should be forgotten.
The Scottish Republican Movement was spearheaded by John MacLean early last century, and he like Rosa Luxemburg criticised Lenin's mechanical adaptation of Bolshevism to the West. It is horses for courses, and the course in Scotland has to be towards the self-determination of the Scottish people.
Our political movement in Scotland did not begin with the BORG Scottish Nationalist Party, it has strong socialist roots, and Sheridan is atleast attempting to continue in the same spirit of MacLean, even if the tactics of the Party are still a bit naive.

Resistance is Futile!

May the Force with U!

derminated