Native American Fishing Rights Canada

[pandora]

WHat do people know about the Native American fight over fishing rights in Canada. FROM WHAT I HEARD THE OTHER DAY THE GREATEST COMMUNAL RESOURCE allocation being fought over in NOrth America is the Communal fishing rights of the Canadian North American Tribes.
It would be great if people here from Canada could support local tribes on the coasts trying to ensure their rights to fish. I've heard they were forced to take a bad deal but the fight goes on.
Che was all about Native Rights to resources.

[Eastside Revolt]

I think helping native communities get free, is much more effective. When you give native people all these visible special rights, that don't really do anything for them, all it does is belittle their stuggle in the eyes of ignorant European Canadians. However most native communities are pretty brainwashed into thinking that they are free, they are so oppressed they only have they energy to fight for these superficial treaty rights.

[pandora]

Fishing rights, like the hunting rights to live off the land are not a small deal, they involve issues of self-sufficiency, and the abilitity to sustain communities off the grid.

The importance of fishing rights, aka no treaty it's our communal territory, is such a large issues that they have water swat teams terrorizing and harming Native fleets on the water.
It's an issue of being able to provide for oneself and one's community. As I am sure you know we're talking about the ability to go out and gather food when one has no other means of sustainace.

The closeness to this issue for Native communities in Canada, especially regarding salmon and lobster, to self-sufficiency for communities so closely resembles the struggles of the Mayan with the communal lands and coffee gathering in the forest that I think this is a crucial issue.

Does anyone else have any thoughts on the issue, please check this situation out!

[Eastside Revolt]

Yeah I have to admit, I'm not the biggest expert on the subject but then again it's one of those issues that very few people have any knowledge about.

The importance of fishing rights, aka no treaty it's our communal territory, is such a large issues that they have water swat teams terrorizing and harming Native fleets on the water.

The native population are just as likely as the capitalists to overfish. I wouldn't go as far as calling it "terrorizing". When native people fish, just because it's a native person fishing doesn't mean it's good for the community as a whole. Many natives will just sell the fish to the companies, pocket the money and spend it on a vacation trip to hawaii. Not every native person feels a responsibilty to the charity of their community, even though it may have been a large part of their culture a hundered years ago.

[themessiah]

the issue with the natives is their protected and privledged rights

yet they are allowed to use modern fishing techniques and compete with the european descent canadians which puts them at a seemingly unfair advantage

[Sabocat]

Originally posted by [email protected] 30 2004, 08:59 AM
the issue with the natives is their protected and privledged rights

yet they are allowed to use modern fishing techniques and compete with the european descent canadians which puts them at a seemingly unfair advantage
Yeah, almost as unfair as being virtually wiped out of existence by those same "European descent Canadians".

So boo-fucking-hoo if it gives them an advantage over the competition. Consider it reparations.

[themessiah]

that was the implication I was trying to make

like I was beaten to a bloody pulp by somebody and they complain because I got the blood they beat out of me on their shirt

[SittingBull47]

ah yea. the native fishing rights are a big deal up in canada. There are also some issues in the US about the Natives and their right to fish/hunt. I agree with Redcanada. They don't need special rights, they need freedom.

[pandora]

Originally posted by [email protected] 30 2004, 05:29 PM
the issue with the natives is their protected and privledged rights

yet they are allowed to use modern fishing techniques and compete with the european descent canadians which puts them at a seemingly unfair advantage
They use traps or cages and essentially row boats, small aluminum craft with motors, while commercial vessels use huge freighters, what on earth are you talking about!

It is there use of small boats even for their private maritime Native force which has allowed the Canadian police to be able to run over their boats with their boats, surrounding the survivors in the water and beating them with clubs before, if lifting them out of the water, hence the deaths and injuries.

Try it on someone else, I've seen the videos and worked in the Alaskan fishing industry for 3 years, one processor can block a bay shutting out hundreds of small fishermen and score the bottom.

Meanwhile the native people in canada are taking their right to fish their local areas for survival, they put out a few hundred cages in an area, they don't scourge with bottom dreggers that pull up the entire floor.

THE ISSUE IS THEY ARE FISHING LOBSTER PERIOD, AND CANADA'S ELITE CONTROL THIS VERY LUCRATIVE INDUSTRY.

[themessiah]

pandora:

I'm talking about the average fisherman's perception. they don't care if native's can't afford the million dollar fishing boats they have, they only care if they don't make nets out of leaves and fillet their fish out of rocks.

its the blame the littlest guy around mentality. if its a minority group - their fault.

anyway, I thought there was a time when natives had to stick to their roots in order to maintain their rights. now they can use rifles and anything they want. I'm basing most of my intel on a documentary I saw where the natives were shooting seals with "repeater" rifles and losing a substantial portion of what they shot due to their utilization of modern tactics. assumed you were discussing the same thing.