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ÑóẊîöʼn
12th May 2004, 11:12
Strike your children because you love them. (http://www.bible.org/docs/splife/chrhome/confkids/kids-09.htm)


God spanks every one of his children, without exception. Some will protest, “But suppose everyone doesn’t need it?” Evidently every child of God does need it at some time, or God wouldn’t do it. And if every child of God needs to be spanked, certainly every child of ours will need it too.

Read: you are all sinners and will be punished accordingly.


On the contrary, God’s Word says it will eliminate foolishness. “Foolishness is bound in the heart of a child, but the rod of correction shall drive it far from him” (Prov. 22:15, KIV).

Read: you are naturally foolish and that needs to be beaten from you. Just goes to show what Christianity thinks of humans.


Maybe our departure from the Bible at this point is partially responsible for the rising tide of delinquency that we face.

Apparently kids need Bible guidance against 'delinquency' Bullshit!


When our first child was very young he received an inexpensive little toy called a Fli-Back. It consisted of a wooden paddle and a small rubber ball connected together by a long rubber band. The idea was to hit the ball successively with the paddle as the rubber band kept snapping it back. Our toddler couldn’t operate it very well, and soon the rubber band broke, making the toy quite worthless--as a toy, that is. But one day, almost accidentally, we discovered an effective new use for the remnant paddle of that fractured Fli-Back. It made a perfect persuader that proved to be both safe and efficient. We had found our board of education, and it has served us well through all four children as we have applied it to their seat of learning. Strangely enough, our children’s friends kept adding more Fli-Backs to our collection as birthday presents, until we had nearly enough to put one in every room of the house. I must admit, it got to be one present they opened with mixed emotions.

This so sick it doesn't need explaining.


Punishment is never directed at believers. It is reserved for those who reject Christ’s sacrifice for sins (cf. 2 Thess. 1:7-9).

Believe or die!


Some parents will still protest, “But I love my child too much to spank him. It seems so cruel.” That is one of Satan’s subtle lies.

So if you really love your kids and choose not to hit them, you're a spawn of Satan. Cute.


Teenagers will profit more from other forms of discipline. There comes a time in life when spanking may only harden and embitter a young person, and other methods of correction will become more effective.

Read: When your kid becomes as big as you are, it's best not to hit him or he might hit you back. Thus proving that such Godly parental discipline is nothing more than simple cowardice.

I find it so fucking disgusting that people are suckered enough into religion to abuse their kids because of it. If people hit their kids because 'the potato people told me to' then they'd have their kids taken away from them and be locked in a mental institution.

WHY ON EARTH SHOULD GOD/YAHWEH/ALLAH BE ANY DIFFERENT?

VincentValentine
12th May 2004, 12:23
Who gives a shit about the bible/religions/gods.


It's all made up rubbish.

ÑóẊîöʼn
12th May 2004, 12:37
I agree with you. but until nobody on Earth takes religion seriously anymore, we communists must challenge and hound it to the very end...

Simply dismising it at this point is very dangerous.

Until the day we can walk without spiritual crutches.

redfront
12th May 2004, 15:29
WHY ON EARTH SHOULD GOD/YAHWEH/ALLAH BE ANY DIFFERENT?

One religion that is different from all theese is Buddhism.
They believe that you must never harm any living creature because they are made by the same energy that holds you alive.
They also believe that if you physically harm anybody or are being materialistic, you will never find Nirvana.

truthaddict11
12th May 2004, 16:13
i stepped on an ant :lol:

Buddism is as much as rubbish as every other religion

pyrrhassorrow
12th May 2004, 17:31
There is a difference between being religious (which is sort of like being in a cult) and being spiritual. A person can believe in God and still be a leftist and not hit their kids or bomb other countries. You cannot take spiritualism away from people because as human beings it is natural to wonder what else is out there. And millions find comfort in what they find. You're argument that God is bad because of fanatics who kill in his name is the same as saying commies are bad because of people like Stalin (I recognize that he was not a true commie but the general public does not and we are talking about perceptions here).

By the way Noxion, you can find evidence for or against any issue in the bible. Many times you will read one book and think that it is pro and then read another and it is con. It is no mystery that the bible contradicts itself. But the intelligent are able to look at the whole picture and reach their own conclusion. That's what learning is.

redfront
12th May 2004, 20:22
Originally posted by [email protected] 12 2004, 04:13 PM
i stepped on an ant :lol:

Buddism is as much as rubbish as every other religion
Why is that? (exept that they aren&#39;t allowed to drink alcohol <_<)

ÑóẊîöʼn
13th May 2004, 10:59
Ha&#33; &#39;Being materialistic&#39; simply means enjoying the real world when you &#39;should&#39; be contemplating some fictional spiritual realm. No thanks&#33;

Religion&#39;s typical denial of human physical pleasure goes very much against the human tendency to have lots of sex, imbibe alcohol, use drugs and eat lots of interesting food. A simpleton could easily see that such denial is yet another control mechanism of religion. Unfortunately, if you dress this pleasure-denial up in a load of spiritual mumbo-jumbo, it somehow becomes valid. - NoXion

redfront
13th May 2004, 20:24
Buddhists mainly believe, that being materialistic means that there&#39;s a high risk for one to exploite other human beings in the urge for power (it&#39;s the same thing commies believes in, mind you).

ÑóẊîöʼn
14th May 2004, 09:24
No, it is power which causes people to exploit others... A man who has 10 gigabytes of pornography on his computer has no power over anyone else.
However somebody with the power to command somebody else to do anything, ANYTHING, and have them killed if they don&#39;t do it, is exploiting others.

truthaddict11
14th May 2004, 13:50
Originally posted by [email protected] 12 2004, 03:22 PM

Why is that? (exept that they aren&#39;t allowed to drink alcohol <_<)
maybe because all religions turn people into idiots,brainwashed idiots. Buddism is no exception.

BloodyPigSlayer
15th May 2004, 00:20
Originally posted by [email protected] 12 2004, 11:12 AM
Strike your children because you love them. (http://www.bible.org/docs/splife/chrhome/confkids/kids-09.htm)


God spanks every one of his children, without exception. Some will protest, “But suppose everyone doesn’t need it?” Evidently every child of God does need it at some time, or God wouldn’t do it. And if every child of God needs to be spanked, certainly every child of ours will need it too.

Read: you are all sinners and will be punished accordingly.


On the contrary, God’s Word says it will eliminate foolishness. “Foolishness is bound in the heart of a child, but the rod of correction shall drive it far from him” (Prov. 22:15, KIV).

Read: you are naturally foolish and that needs to be beaten from you. Just goes to show what Christianity thinks of humans.


Maybe our departure from the Bible at this point is partially responsible for the rising tide of delinquency that we face.

Apparently kids need Bible guidance against &#39;delinquency&#39; Bullshit&#33;


When our first child was very young he received an inexpensive little toy called a Fli-Back. It consisted of a wooden paddle and a small rubber ball connected together by a long rubber band. The idea was to hit the ball successively with the paddle as the rubber band kept snapping it back. Our toddler couldn’t operate it very well, and soon the rubber band broke, making the toy quite worthless--as a toy, that is. But one day, almost accidentally, we discovered an effective new use for the remnant paddle of that fractured Fli-Back. It made a perfect persuader that proved to be both safe and efficient. We had found our board of education, and it has served us well through all four children as we have applied it to their seat of learning. Strangely enough, our children’s friends kept adding more Fli-Backs to our collection as birthday presents, until we had nearly enough to put one in every room of the house. I must admit, it got to be one present they opened with mixed emotions.

This so sick it doesn&#39;t need explaining.


Punishment is never directed at believers. It is reserved for those who reject Christ’s sacrifice for sins (cf. 2 Thess. 1:7-9).

Believe or die&#33;


Some parents will still protest, “But I love my child too much to spank him. It seems so cruel.” That is one of Satan’s subtle lies.

So if you really love your kids and choose not to hit them, you&#39;re a spawn of Satan. Cute.


Teenagers will profit more from other forms of discipline. There comes a time in life when spanking may only harden and embitter a young person, and other methods of correction will become more effective.

Read: When your kid becomes as big as you are, it&#39;s best not to hit him or he might hit you back. Thus proving that such Godly parental discipline is nothing more than simple cowardice.

I find it so fucking disgusting that people are suckered enough into religion to abuse their kids because of it. If people hit their kids because &#39;the potato people told me to&#39; then they&#39;d have their kids taken away from them and be locked in a mental institution.

WHY ON EARTH SHOULD GOD/YAHWEH/ALLAH BE ANY DIFFERENT?
no your messed up, i hate you&#33;&#33;&#33;

OverthrowtheGovt16
15th May 2004, 00:52
I DESPISE RELIGION IN ALL OF ITS STUPID AND MEANINGLESS FORMS&#33;

Hawker
15th May 2004, 03:48
If I had children I would never spank them only if it was neccessary,for instance if they curse at me.I would only spank them then only to assert myself as their father.If I don&#39;t then they will do it again and again.

Raisa
15th May 2004, 17:50
Originally posted by [email protected] 15 2004, 03:48 AM
If I had children I would never spank them only if it was neccessary,for instance if they curse at me.I would only spank them then only to assert myself as their father.If I don&#39;t then they will do it again and again.


If my kids treat me like shit Im going to pretent they dont exist for a little while and teach them that being a ***** is a good way to loose a friend. Well see how good you do with no mother when its time for dinner or your shoe becomes untied.

mEds
15th May 2004, 21:37
if you interpret the document ina logical fashion they usually use the word correction. corrective matters are many so don&#39;t go assuming things. every person who believes in some sort of religion/religions has a different opinion and you cannot assume that a majority or significant amount of people believe that.

pandora
15th May 2004, 22:09
I think the "Christian who wrote the mandate needs a good "spanking"
I like that in Buddhism, by striking your child you create the karma to get wacked yourself in the future, maybe even 10x, so it better be for a good reason to bend over, like grabbing them before they step in the street in front of a car, waping their behind once and saying "no" firmly.

Any other situation other than turning them from a life threatening danger is a lame reason to wap a child, because you&#39;re just going to make them cry. I would prob. take 10 punches in the face to keep my child from getting hit by a truck, but than I don&#39;t have a child so I don&#39;t know :P

truthaddict11
15th May 2004, 22:49
i thought "karma" was Hinduism

Comrade Zeke
15th May 2004, 23:44
Stupid Chrisitians.....this is why i hate their religion so much......because all they want to do is take over the world with their lies and decete. We should just all go back to Paganism. At least in my religion your not forces to go to a church ever Sunday
Zeke

mEds
16th May 2004, 00:28
You say you despise religion but advocate paganism? I believe that too is a religion...

Cobra
16th May 2004, 00:36
Yes, Christianity is the worst religion ever created. It’s even worse than Islam. But Buddhism however is different.

Buddhism is more of a philosophy than a religion. Instead of teaching people what to think, Buddhism teaches people to think. Buddhism is usually harmless, but when it is taken to the extreme it can become a dangerous religion.

Raisa
16th May 2004, 02:29
Originally posted by [email protected] 16 2004, 12:28 AM
You say you despise religion but advocate paganism? I believe that too is a religion...
Its just a result of monotheist control and euro-centric edcuation that we dont consider paganism a "religion" off the top of our heads sometimes.
Pagans are just as religous as every one else.
And I dont think paganism is one religon is it?

mEds
16th May 2004, 05:36
regardless, you said religion was basically useless/garbage. Therefore, according to your logic ALL and ANY religion is WRONG. ;) I like to point out logical errors in people&#39;s communication/mental capabilities. :)

BuyOurEverything
16th May 2004, 05:48
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BuyOurEverything
16th May 2004, 05:49
regardless, you said religion was basically useless/garbage. Therefore, according to your logic ALL and ANY religion is WRONG. I like to point out logical errors in people&#39;s communication/mental capabilities.

No, Zeke said that. Raisa is exactly right, we don&#39;t consider Paganism as much of a religion because it differs so much from the traditional monotheism we&#39;re used to, but that doesn&#39;t make it any less a religion, or any less bullshit. Ditto with Buddhism.

Raisa
16th May 2004, 06:50
Originally posted by [email protected] 16 2004, 05:36 AM
I like to point out logical errors in people&#39;s communication/mental capabilities. :)
Its only for the better, you keep on. Friends dont let friends contradict themselves.

truthaddict11
16th May 2004, 13:03
Originally posted by [email protected] 15 2004, 12:50 PM


If my kids treat me like shit Im going to pretent they dont exist for a little while and teach them that being a ***** is a good way to loose a friend. Well see how good you do with no mother when its time for dinner or your shoe becomes untied.
why dont you just lock your kids in the closet for a few years, that will really teach them for being "*****es" wont it? I hope you never have children.

redfront
16th May 2004, 15:06
Originally posted by [email protected] 16 2004, 12:36 AM
Yes, Christianity is the worst religion ever created. It’s even worse than Islam. But Buddhism however is different.

Buddhism is more of a philosophy than a religion. Instead of teaching people what to think, Buddhism teaches people to think. Buddhism is usually harmless, but when it is taken to the extreme it can become a dangerous religion.
How can Buddhism be dangerous if they aren&#39;t allowed to harm any one? :ph34r: