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fidelito
9th March 2002, 07:14
The U.S.A. continues to show its true colours of greed, double-standards and hypocrisy in its dealing with other nations.

Throughout its history, America has been noted for its dishonesty, selfishness, greed, double standards and hypocrisy in dealing with others.

It started with their tretment of the Native Americans. A spiritual, peaceful people, the Native Americans were forced out of their land by the American Government, their main food source was destroyed, their people held in veritable bondage.

It continued with the other great nations - U.S.S.R, Japan, Iran, Iraq, South Africa, Panama, Cuba, etc., etc.

It was clearly reflected in the formation of the state of Israel and the unjust treatment of the real owners of the land - the Palestinian people who were rooted out of their own homes by America and its puppet, the U.N.

Now the attack seems to be geared towards Isalm - a sweet, practical, peaceful and just way of life in which classism, racism corruption and other social menaces are not tolerated - maybe that's why its the fastest growing religion in the world!

But this section of huamnkind is not the only one to face imperialist skulldoggery.

America, over the past decade has been one of the loudest voices supporting free trade and globalization.

It frowned upon the implementation of tarrifs on goods traded with allied countries.

How then is it, the very U.S.A. , has imposed a 30% tarrif on some of the steel products entering the country?!!

When other countries faced the brunt of globalization and bore the sacrifices made, the U.S.A. did not feel pity nor did the show concern.

Now that their steel industry is facing a challenging time, they fall back on their word, their much preached policies.

This is the sort of dishonesty and unethical behaviour we have come to expect from the U.S.A. - and this is why they are disliked.

Imagine the great pressure they exert on small nations -we all know about Cuba and there are many others, some you all may know about.

In the words of Che -

if you tremble with indignation at every injustice, then you are a comrade of mine.

I guess this shows why the U.S.A. and I are not comrades.

Are they yours?!!!

Zippy
9th March 2002, 18:07
Im from Sheffield, and our steel industry was murdered in the 80's. Sheffield used to be the biggest steel producer in the whole of Europe and now we have one plant left, from over 30.

Has for the US tariffs, it effects mainland Europe more than it does Britain, because we are no longer that industrial.

Zippy.

Anonymous
9th March 2002, 18:35
Typical fucks,
No comrades of mine!

I Will Deny You
9th March 2002, 19:23
Quote: from fidelito on 8:14 am on Mar. 9, 2002
It started with their tretment of the Native Americans. A spiritual, peaceful peopleActually, many Native American tribes were very warlike. Plenty of them were peaceful and when they were less than hospitable to Europeans their anger was definitely justified, but they certainly weren't a bunch of Ghandis. The misrepresentation of Native Americans in popular culture continues to amaze me--why is every Native American either a warrior or a spiritual, wise old man?

(Edited by I Will Deny You at 8:25 pm on Mar. 9, 2002)

I Will Deny You
9th March 2002, 19:25
Quote: from fidelito on 8:14 am on Mar. 9, 2002
It continued with the other great nations - U.S.S.R, Japan, Iran, Iraq, South Africa, Panama, Cuba, etc., etc.


Quote: from fidelito on 8:14 am on Mar. 9, 2002
I guess this shows why the U.S.A. and I are not comrades.

Are they yours?!!!
America is no comrade of mine, but neither is Iraq. Why the enemy-of-my-enemy-is-my-friend mentality, fidelito? It's certainly not helpful.

liderDeFARC
9th March 2002, 20:10
U.$ a comrade....


Hmmmmmm ¡NO!


what a good joke.

fidelito
9th March 2002, 20:24
COMRADE LINSDAY.....

I NOTED YOUR TWO POINTS.

THE NATIVE AMERICANS WERE AND HAVE ALWAYS BEEN NOTED FOR THEIR HIGH LEVELS OF SPIRITUALITY, RESPECT FOR THE ENVIRONMENT AND EACH OTHER.

WHEN FACED WITH OPPRESIVE SITUATIONS UNJUSTLY PLACED ON THEM, THEY FOUGHT; AND WAR IS ALWAYS AN OPTION IN SUCH SITUATIONS, FOR BEING PEACEFUL AND SPIRITUAL DOES NOT MEAN THAT YOU SHOULD ALLOW YOURSELF TO BE TAKEN ADVANTAGE OF. AND YOURE RIGHT, THEY WERE (ARE?) SPIRITUAL AND ALSO GREAT WARRIORS.

ALSO,I TOO BELIEVE THAT IRAQ HAS DONE GREAT WRONG. BUT IT DOES NOT NEGATE THE FACT THAT THEY, ALONG WITH OTHER GREAT COUNTRIES WERE MANIPULATED BY THE U.S. - LONG BEFORE DESERT STORM.

WHRE THERE IS WRONGDOING, WHEREVER IT MAY BE, WE MUST ACKNOWKEDGE IT AND REBEL AGAINST IT.

THE U.S. HYPOCRISY IS UNDENIABLE THOUGH, AND THEY WONDER WHY PEOPLE DON'LIKE THEM !!!

fidelito
9th March 2002, 20:26
SHIT !!!

I MEAN COMRADE 'I WILL DENY YOU.'

OOPS

fidelito
9th March 2002, 20:29
I LIKE THAT, LIDERDEFARC, u.$.a....... THAT'S COOL!

I Will Deny You
9th March 2002, 20:48
You can call me I Will Deny You or Lindsay. It's fine either way.

The Native Americans would often fight each other, sometimes for very stupid reasons. They didn't always respect each other. But I agree, they did respect the environment and this is one of the many reasons why I admire them.

I'm not sure Iraq was manipulated by the US before Desert Storm, but my knowledge of this topic isn't as great as it should be. When you say Iraq, do you mean the Iraqi government or the Iraqi people? The Iraqi government was happy for the help it received before Desert Storm. I'm not sure the people were manipulated, per se, because as far as I know they were able to accurately judge when they were getting a raw deal and when they were getting a good deal. If you have a lot of background knowledge, please tell me--I'm here to learn, after all, and not to fight with my fellow leftists. But I still don't think Iraq is a great nation. The sanctions against them are disgusting--and unjustifiable because, as we all know, sanctions have not gotten Fidel out of office--but even if there were no sanctions the Iraqi people would be very poor and the government would keep lots of the oil money for itself. The sanctions and Sadaam should go.

(Edited by I Will Deny You at 9:49 pm on Mar. 9, 2002)

Rosa
9th March 2002, 21:00
I must dissagree with IDY: native americans didn't gain a stadium of neolitical revolution, and they weren't teritorialised. The wars happens as fight for theritory, so they didn't have reason to fight each other. They respected each other.

Supermodel
11th March 2002, 23:18
Weighing in on the native american issue: most tribes were intense warriors and some practiced cannibalism. "Scalping", or basically cutting off the top of the head, was practiced for centuries before Columbus. One of the most warlike tribes were the Blackfeet, known throughout America as a terrifying force when encountering other tribes. What did they have to fight over? Women, arable land, animals, buffalo hunting, water rights.

Spirituality does not equal peaceful and loving.

Oh yeah, the first fights with the Indians were the Spanish conquistadors. Followed by the French. The Anglos most certainly did not start the fighting. In particular the first settlements at Jamestown, VA and Plymouth, MA relied heavily on the assistance of the natives in surviving the early years.

Now your comments about the lovely peaceful people of Islam.....you really believe that???

Marxman
11th March 2002, 23:55
The biggest shame in humankind is the colonization of AMERICA. I mean, if I say my peaceful land full of nature and then suddenly turned into an imperialistic autocracy, I would probably loose my mind and probably assassinated Bush.