upon initiating revolution

[cubist]

Ok, here s serious question taht has probably been asked before

but upon creation of a classless communist society as i desire,

how are we going to get peopel to work, what areas of business are going to seice commercial activity, what aren't how are you going to get the doctors to work and the unskilled working class what will they do as business enterprise will seice on the commercial front.

what will we sacrifice and what will we keep,

these are serious questions and i have no idea which is why i am raising the question,

[redstar2000]

Yes, they are serious questions; they're generally subsumed in what's called the "transition period" between capitalism and communism.

The features of this period are highly controversial on the left.

The Leninist paradigm asserts that a "workers' state" must be set up to "manage the transition".

This will, in essence, be capitalism without capitalists; that is, all the characteristics of the present society will be retained but there will be no class of people who benefit from the private ownership of the means of production.

So people will still have jobs, receive paychecks, go shopping, etc. There will still be "high status" jobs that "pay well" and "shitwork" that pays shit. There will still be cops and an army and jails and prisons.

There will still be bosses and workers.

The libertarian communist/anarchist alternative posits that communism begins on "day one" of the "transition period".

That means that no attempt is made to establish a "new state" after the old capitalist state is smashed and its personnel dispersed.

Power is devolved to workplace, municipal, and regional federations established to perform specific functions...getting the power back on, arranging the transport and distribution of food, etc.

Even on the local level, there's no need for a "general, all-purpose public authority".

Which is another way of saying that there is no "lever of power" to "govern" matters overall.

Communism will likely begin with the free distribution of basic necessities for use. Then it will spread to more and more things until the market is squeezed out of existence and money is meaningless...there's nothing to buy with it.

Workplace collectives will be extensively re-organized to produce for the needs of the new society...I imagine that spare parts will be a big priority.

We probably won't be producing many "big ticket" items in the first decade or two...it will take some time to figure out how to organize production when people are free to "do as they please".

Initially, communism will be a "simpler" economy than capitalism.

Like the capitalists, the Leninists assert that without a "source of command", nothing will "get done".

Real communists and anarchists assert the contrary; ordinary working people are perfectly capable of organizing any task that they set their minds to and successfully completing it.

Ultimately, the dispute over the "transition period" is a dispute over "human nature" and what it is possible for our species to accomplish.

If the capitalists and the Leninists are right, then the communist/anarchist attempt to establish communism will collapse in chaos, hunger, and the demand for an authoritarian leader/party to establish order...followed by despotism and the re-establishment of capitalism.

If the real communists and anarchists are right, then we will be forever free from wage-slavery and class society.

What's your choice?

:redstar2000:

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