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communist_comrade
7th May 2004, 08:24
hey,

since i have been labelled many insaulting names from several of the people here i would like to enquire about my um how do i put this ....inferior mind. Ok well here we go , if a communistic state was achieved ...after the revolution...what would happen ? from what history and what marx tells us a revolution will be very violent and after the current government is abolished what happens in the periods of chaos and crime????? and what happens if during a harvesting season a cold snap happens and destroys it...what happens when the people starve due to the grain...or lack there of and what happens with rival political groups ? ...you are trying to help but they say that you are wrong what happens to them ? COME ON ,QUICK...ANSWER ME ANSWER ME !!!!!

cubist
7th May 2004, 11:11
what happens,

a few things, if the revolution is to come as i suspect at the end of the capitalist rise, as in when the market swallows its self as defined by marx, then it will not be that violent, if revolution comes in the form of social uprising whilst capitalism is strong then we are looking at civil war in many countries, which would be very violent.

however upon revolution do you honestly expect us to forget about the machines and forget about the technology inplace from capitalisms economy?

man

communist_comrade
7th May 2004, 12:24
hey,

dude calm down calm down...all im saying is that there will always be a minority of people who want some personal gain and robbing when there is no government is easier...

redstar2000
7th May 2004, 13:35
...I would like to inquire about my um how do I put this ....inferior mind.

The problem is not that your mind is "inferior"...the problem is that you don't use it.

Like all too many people, you simply repeat whatever mindless cliché is "in the air" instead of thinking critically about social reality...hence all that "human nature" crap.

My sense is that differences in intelligence are wildly (and deliberately) exaggerated in capitalist society..."if he's rich, he must be a genius".

That's bullshit!

I think people of normal intelligence are perfectly capable of learning how to think critically...but it takes an effort.


...and after the current government is abolished, what happens in the periods of chaos and crime?????

What would you expect to happen? Most people co-operate in restoring order and a few people try to take advantage of the opportunity to commit crimes.

Violent criminals, if caught in the act, will probably be executed on the spot. Thieves, also if caught in the act, will probably get off with a sound beating.

Workers' militias will establish street patrols and the opportunity for crime will diminish.


...and what happens with rival political groups?

The answer depends on which groups you're talking about. Nazi groups and their allies (Christian fascist, etc.) will be ruthlessly suppressed...most likely shot upon apprehension. Pro-capitalist political parties will be dissolved...that is, they won't be allowed any public presence.

After that it gets "hazy". I'm hopeful that Leninism will be a "dead issue" by the time of the revolution, but what if it isn't? What if there's a Leninist party that is clearly anxious and eager to grab absolute power over the working class...and shows signs of possibly being able to do that?

I think that under such unfortunate circumstances, real communists and anarchists must be prepared to stop them...by any means necessary!


COME ON ,QUICK...ANSWER ME, ANSWER ME !!!!!

What's your hurry? You're speaking of events that may be 50, 100, or more years into the future. Things will be very different then than they are now.

To begin the revolutionary process, we first have to get clear on what we really want.

:redstar2000:

The Redstar2000 Papers (http://www.redstar2000papers.fightcapitalism.net)
A site about communist ideas

communist_comrade
8th May 2004, 11:43
hey,

christian fascist ? what do you mean by that ...ill have you know im a christian...so please explain that and another thing i wasnt calling myself stupid...im proud of my mind but people have been calling me stupid so while i wait for an answer ill go and start on world domination.

good day to you redstar *tilts hat*

Ian
8th May 2004, 12:04
*Raises hand* Yep! Over here! I called you stupid! And with good reason!
(Selection of quotes from chats with communist comrade):
"damn niggers"
"long live the Confederates"
" i cant right remember right now but i listened to a speech about the confederates and they actually did some pretty gopod stuff"
"the wrath of God -long live Israel"
"Astrophobia---- long live the Confederates says: well then you are a filthy piece of shit Astrophobia---- long live the Confederates says: i hope you and youre nigger lovin' friends all get aids"

Let's not forget what you said in that 'Metal' thread.

Exposed.

Finally.

Hiero
8th May 2004, 12:23
Hand up, me too i called you stupid

"gay people shouldnt marry as they cant produce a child"

"i dont like the way that they promote gay marriages in schools and other assorted channels"

"if i had my choice i would try and limit the way that schools and other things promote a gay lifestyle"

communist_comrade
8th May 2004, 13:30
hey,

ha-ha-ha-ha-ha....boo hoo !....to be fair those racist remarks were to piss weiners like you off and i fully support what i said about gay marriages...

redstar2000
8th May 2004, 13:57
What do I mean by the term "Christian fascist"?

Take a look in the mirror!

This thread is locked and a poll has begun on whether or not to restrict "communist comrade" to Opposing Ideologies or to ban him entirely.

Racism is not "funny" on this board. :angry:

:redstar2000:

The Redstar2000 Papers (http://www.redstar2000papers.fightcapitalism.net)
A site about communist ideas