The correct amount of Greed

[Dune Dx]

As I tell people about communism then come up with the same reply " I dont think it will work " rarely followed by a reason someone said " I dont think it will work because nobody will go into higher education if there is no incentive to do so" first I thought well i dont want to go to colledge to get more money I want to go to colledge to get the Job I want and 2nd I thought well maybe a communist goverment could set up two sets of pay a goodworker wage and a standard wage. The good worker wage changing every month so people keep working hard to get this goodworker wage.

This would give people the incentive to work hard but the good worker wage wouldnt be so much bigger than the standard wage to give greed a devasting effect.

Then I realised the good worker wage doesnt actually make people want to go into higher education but really if higher education is all free and the job your good at needs higher education then you likely to go into higher education.

[Dune Dx]

so what do you people think? can you include the right amount of greed in Communism or can you never have the right amount of greed?

[Dune Dx]

:unsure: why will no one reply even if you dont care about my topic please reply sniff sniff

[God of Imperia]

U know, I wouldn't let students get a job before they graduated in something, it doens't matter what but they have to graduate ... So, people will have to go to college. But where do you get the idea of wages?

[Dune Dx]

well wages give a incentive to work and quality products

[monkeydust]

why will no one reply even if you dont care about my topic please reply sniff sniff

Fine....if you're gonna cry about it I guess I'll reply.



As I tell people about communism then come up with the same reply " I dont think it will work " rarely followed by a reason someone said " I dont think it will work because nobody will go into higher education if there is no incentive to do so" first I thought well i dont want to go to colledge to get more money I want to go to colledge to get the Job I want and 2nd I thought well maybe a communist goverment could set up two sets of pay a goodworker wage and a standard wage. The good worker wage changing every month so people keep working hard to get this goodworker wage.

In a way, this actually relates to the (fairly) recent debate concerning top up fees in Britain.

New Labour claim "people will be able to pay off debts after they leave university, as they will have a better job than they would have otherwise had."

This makes an important assumption about education. It assumes that people seek higher education as a 'gateway' to high salary employment. This is not necessarily the case.

Some people, myself included enjoy learning for its own sake, for its intrinsic value, and, occassionally, for fun.

This relates back to what your freinds have been saying:


" I dont think it will work because nobody will go into higher education if there is no incentive to do so"

Perhaps the main incentive to learn under communism will be to learn for personal enrichment, interest and as a reward in itself.

Put simply, many people enjoy learning and find it reqarding, and would continue to do so under communism (perhaps more so). Hence people may well seek education for its own sake.

Many famous thinkers, learnt and educated others for reasons other than money. Plato and Einstein come to mind.

[Dune Dx]

so really communism will make the education system better because only those who want to learn will.


But giving a good worker wage to give people incentive to work hard is this going against communism?

[monkeydust]

Having a 'standard worker wage' and a 'good worker wage' seems a bit sickening to me. And it doesn't seem like Communism at all.

Moreover, who decides what constitutes a 'good' worker?

Why is a skilled job necessarily more 'good' than a job that requires vast amounts of 'un skilled' effort? Or more specifically,, why should it be rewarded better?

No, I don't think any Communist would support such ideas.

And I don't think we'll have a 'wage' either... ;)

I can't handle much more of this antidisestablishmentarianism.

[cubist]

i don't think wages are a good idea and creating a class inside an intended classless society would be rather dumb,